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Russian assault units are leaving Mariupol, multiple sources report this. A small part of the Russian units remains to block the Azovstal plant, the rest are transferred to other sectors of the Ukrainian front to develop an offensive there. Where the troops are going is unknown, perhaps Kharkov, Nikolaev or Kherson.


It is understandable why would Russian troops leave. Mariupol is mostly evacuated--from 400,000 down to 120,000 and those who are still there, except for the AzovStal plant, are not likely a potent threat. Even AzovStal is not an immediate/potent threat unless Ukrainians break into the city.

But why not post videos in English?? The world really needs to know the other side's POV otherwise one dominant narrative has driven the war so far and such one-sided coverage perpetuate the conflict and misery.
 
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China has never been colonized, only under influence of and weaker than colonizers, but never ruled over. There was always an independent Chinese government since 200 BC. Even those who conquered China, like Mongol Yuan, had to contend with constant rebellion and eventually Chinese got our revenge, razed Shangdu to the ground, invaded Mongolia, took half their land and kicked the rest out to beyond the Gobi desert. That's why we own Inner Mongolia.

Hilarious to talk about fighting for independence from you when you were ruled by Serbians and Turks. There was no independent Bosnian government for centuries. And you still have never gotten revenge on Serbia.


Indeed we support the independence of all countries, including Russia. Right now it is Russia fighting for its independence. Ukraine is just the battleground. Going on the tactical offensive doesn't mean being the one to actually strike first.

Even if china were colonized there is no shame on Chinese - yes its unfortunate for chinese and lessons to be learnt. but one should never shame victims.

@thetutle once told me he has no shame if nazis were to win and use bosnians as cheap labor. After all they are doing the same now in German factories is his opinion. I dont think these people crave for dignity or independence or freedom but the race and culture of their conqueror. I have seen people from south asia and africa behave more dignifiedly and with more independence.
 
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So being forced to be part of Yugoslavia by Marshall Tito at the end of World War II, and then being led to the slaughter house as lambs in the 1990s - where you lost 200,000 people - aren't same as being "colonized"?
Being forced into Tito's Yugoslavia not great, but it was not colonialisation. We had citizenship, freedom of travel, equal rights, freedom to have our language and culture. Some religion, but not much, and not our national name. Christians were oppressed too to the same degree. So Communists were pretty bad, but not as bas as the Serbian king who did colonise us for 20 years. Thankfully Hitler and Tito got rid of him. Thats was 20 years of colonialisation.

In 1992-1995 lost 100,000 citizens of all religions and ethnic groups when we were invaded by a neighbour. So that was an invasion and failed colonialisation.

What the heck, you're forced to share a government with the same guys (Serbs) who carried out the genocide against your people in the 1990s to the point where they have a veto power over every actions that your government takes.
We are not forced to share government. We choose to do this because Serbs are our citizens. We have lived together for 1,000 years, we are almost the same people and have the same language and same traditions. Same jokes. We marry each other. Always have always will. We will not let them leave us even if they have total control of our government. Its a marriage that cant be ended. They are the unhappy bride and will smash a few plates, burn the house down, but they are staying in the marriage. We need a marriage councillor because we will not accept a divorce.
Heck, the same West that you love so much imposed an arms embargo on you (Bosnian Muslims) when you were getting massacred in the 1990s. You really look like an abused guy who loves his abusers.
West armed us secretly, gave us a no fly zone, What ukranians are begging for. If west armed us too early and too well, Russia would get more involved, Serbia would get openly involved, this was hard and painful but had to be done this way.

Arabs, Chinese, and Somalis resisted foreign domination for 1000s of years. Go read a book instead of chatting shit.
These people did resist foreign domination, but unfortunately were colonised. And all I was suggesting is that to some colonised people, surrendering is really an option, and they really want Ukraine to give up because freedom and independence is such foreign concept to them. Like for you perhaps.

And yes we in Bosnia were colonised perhaps only by the Ottomans. And it sucks to be colonised. But once you are integrated into an empire, and have the same rights and enough freedoms it kind of stops being colonialisaiton. Were Bosnians muslims colonial servants to Ottomans in 1700's? not really.

Colonialisation is palestine, its china, its Africa, when they take away your rights and put a sign in a Bejing park that says "no dogs or chinamen".

I dont know why you would want that misery upon the Ukranian people. They are fighting to be free in their own internationally recognised borders.
 
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It was not shot down, It caught fire and the crew was evacuated.

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Another one " caught fire " :



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You can just see this helicopter accident take place in real time. A fire and explosion just engulfed the vicinity of the helicopter. I expect the passengers and crew to be at the parade in May.

I am sure Russian revenge will be massive for Ukraine having nothing to do with this accident.

New York will also burn even though their missiles are useless against Helicopters.
 
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Easiest solution would have been to just literally bomb that plant to the ground. Russians can’t take POWs as supply lines are stretched thin and this way you get read of couple thousand men/women who are of fighting caliber. It’s stupid these morons wasting time on theatrics throughout this whole conflict. I would have bombed all of Ukraine into a graveyard by now.
You would bomb all into graveyard?
Why are you so? NO respect for human lives?
Putin army can’t take the steel mills, he orders to dig in. the casualty for Russian troops would too big to swallow. that’s a big victory for the Ukrainian defenders. Now Putin has time he can invent more Nazi stories.
 
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The US is generous. last week 800 million USD, this week 1.3 billion USD. So almost 1 billion per week. Still much cheaper than Putin spends on war: 5 billion USD per week. Zelenskki can be happy. Russia will become faster bankrupt than the US.
Its darn expensive. Even if its 52 million this year. Its nothing for America and cheaper than having russia conquer Ukraine. A world in which Ukraine falls will be much more expensive.
 
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