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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

I have had a hard time following all of that stuff that you wrote there. But carry on and do your thang, bro.
You caught me in mid editing, I added clarification and that is what you captured, which made it make less sense, so I clarified more. English is my worst subject. My initial post was an easy read, I clarified, yet not enough, making it sound off. I was making fun of those that believe Soros rules the globe or the EU or America, making fun of those that say delays in rearming in inevitable, and a whole list of issues, each a snippet. Was not at you. I'll be adding more snippet replies here so you can skip over.

I already know that Europe is going to go pro-Putin and blame Ukraine and blame itself when things get bad, therefore I am no nonsense with anybody on the forum. I already comprehend the cia future of victory. Once Europe is lost China is next, Iran is after. And there is no opposition to the Anglo-zionists. There is nobody going to rescue Europe if Europe falls to Russian occupation. Imagine Genghis Khan winning Eurasia and the people there did not care about defending and arming themselves because daddy native americans are going to rescue them eventually. It is the end, the Russians can do their human trafficking and rape and terror, as the Europeans and children are taught to hate themselves as nazis. It is sad. "And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care."

To you my remarks go over your head with no context of which posts I am replying to, because I am replying to specific past posts from days, weeks or months ago.

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Swiss bankers control the swiss government, otherwise corruption in the banking system would be exposed and investigations launched into shady bank accounts and deals.

Retired swiss rapier ADS should been sent to Ukraine to shoot down Russian missiles targeting civilians, instead switzerland would sooner see their weapons destroyed rather than help Ukraine. Let sink in. Swiss banker and London bankers not fully helping Ukraine. Instead watching from afar sipping tea and being safe from the Putin plan to destroy the EU. As Switzerland and UK refuse to be in the EU and thus are not targets of Trump and Putin. Anglo-Americans are safe, Swiss are safe. EU is not safe.



A source of mine, an American author said in the 1950s the cia was spooked about the rise of Catholic political power and wanted to destroy the EEC after the Treaty of Rome in 1957. That it was a Catholic rival political organization not controlled by the cia and Washington. If you are powerful and not controlled by the cia or mi6 or cronies, then the Anglo-Zionists/Anglo-Americans plot your destruction.

There are many Russian propaganda lies, one lie is "soros controls your nation" is Russia lie and propaganda.

Russian propaganda: "Russia needs to destroy your nation because Soros the boogieman controls your nation" is 100% Russian Propaganda.

Europe detractors that believe Putin is fighting the deepstate claim: "Though Anglo-American are sending weapons to Ukraine" proving the deepstate supports Ukraine... is the reply by 5th columnist shills, when in fact Anglo-Americans are only sending enough weapons to prolong the war, never enough to liberate the whole of Ukraine. Never enough to defeat Russia.

Want proof...

Who is delaying transfer of F-16s and ATACMS missiles to Ukraine, and why — expert interview
August 16, 2023, 05:50 PM
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Ukraine can be victorious in its counteroffensive even without F-16 fighter jets, and their presence would not have a decisive influence on the situation on the battlefield, according to a recent article by The New York Times.

Aviation expert and leading researcher from Kyiv’s National Aviation University, Valery Romanenko, explained to NV Radio who is delaying the transfer of F-16 aircraft and ATACMS missiles to Ukraine and why.

NV: There is this idea that Ukraine can win without F-16s. It seems that they would not have a decisive influence on the battlefield. Is this just an excuse? Or an attempt to explain why everything is taking so long?

Romanenko: The devil is always in the details. It all depends on the quantity. If we got enough F-16s, then they would have an impact on the situation on the battlefield. If we had received four, six, twelve, even 24, then they would not affect the situation on the battlefield, but would still significantly reduce our losses — both military and civilian.

F-16s can be used both for air defense and in traditional engagements with enemy aircraft.

It is not at all clear to us how we can win without any aviation at all or without long-range weapons. This is just nonsense.
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Kuleba says US won't give ATACMS missiles for ‘objective reasons’, despite Ukraine's needs

What is victory? The capture of enemy territory or the creation of a situation in which the enemy army has been destroyed so much that it cannot continue hostilities.

We are now in a situation where we are not allowed to win, but we are not allowed to be defeated either. That is, a war to exhaust Russia and to humiliate its authorities. In a nutshell — a classic war of attrition. But we are paying for this in blood.

NV: Why is it still completely unclear how and when Ukrainian pilots will start training? Are there any difficulties other than our pilots’ level of English language proficiency? What could it be?

Romanenko: This is knowledge of standard procedures and typical NATO terminology for aviation. But all this can be learned. Our pilots have participated in joint exercises many times. It's not that difficult.

If they say that the F-16s will appear in the first quarter of next year, then this means that training will begin in September at the latest. Plus, last autumn we outlined the terms of training — six months. That is, if they start in September, then in early April, the planes may appear. If training begins at the end of the year, as is already being reported, then the planes will not appear until June or even July. That is the difference.

And all these exams... Eight pilots are ready to start their training already. Eight F-16 aircraft would have helped us to at least suppress enemy air defense. Eight aircraft are capable of carrying four HARMS anti-radar missiles, and are able to use them at 100%, that is, destroy enemy air defense systems, reducing the risk of our aircraft being shot down and saving the lives of our pilots. Also, by the way, clearing the way for our drones. To destroy enemy positions, headquarters, stockpiles, and other elements of control and logistics.

NV: U.S. President Joe Biden gave the green light to the start of training, but it turned out that separate permits for simulators, manuals, and documentation were still needed. Is it really such a bureaucratic process?

Romanenko: This must be covered in a general authorization. And all this could have been done 10 times already. This does not take three months. It was only necessary to agree on what equipment our pilots would be allowed to use as part of the aircraft.

In the F-16s, which finished modernizing in the 1990s, there is practically nothing secret today. And in my opinion, from a technical point of view, there are no contraindications for transferring these aircraft to us. This is all political. The Russian influence runs deep, and the Russians have already influenced U.S. presidential elections [in 2016].

NV: In 2016 they interfered.

Romanenko: Yes, they have already interfered, and yet their challenger won. The Biden administration would have to draw some lessons and conclusions. And they again have [U.S. national security adviser Jake] Sullivan, who is already almost called Mr. Sulivanov, continuing to block the supply of military equipment we urgently need. That is, aircraft and ATACMS ballistic missiles.

Until recently, cluster munitions were blocked,
which the Russians had already been using at scale against us. Ah, but see, we're holier than the Pope, we can't use them.



Jake Sullivan is managing when, what and how much to send to Ukraine. Is part of the reason why Ukraine was not given most of the needed equipment in 2022 when Ukraine was in a better position to defeat the Russians. Both sides are being managed by Oxford Rhodes Scholars and cia cronies on one side and cia-linked pawns on the other side to stage things for the maximum defeat of Europe.

The conclusion of this is Europe is alone. Europe wasted 1 1/2 in not rearming and not getting rid dependence on gas, instead Germany closed nuclear power plants. This European War crisis is not the time to shut down power plants, except natural gas. Europe needs to invest in military spending in the hundreds of billions. If Ukraine wins the war and Crimea and Donbas, Europe can get their gas from Ukraine rather than Russia.

If Europe rearms, Russian plans and Oxford Rhodes Scholar cia plans to end the EU are defeated. There is no urgency to defeat and crush the Russians, as there was urgency to defeat Anglo enemy of Germany in the two world wars. Because to brexiters of trumpers, Christian conservative, "non drag queen Russia", is not the threat. Russia is the tool to keep down Europe.

Russia is influencing US politics because it is allowed to influence. If Iran was completely influencing a major political party, the Anglos would lose their minds over it. Yet Russia is allowed to do this and continue to buddy with Trump and Republicans. If this were the cold war, there would be constant media attacks on that political party. And Russia is more of a threat to Europe than the Soviets. To China this is a weakness that Russia controls a political party, covertly to the cia and Pompeo, Russia influence is a helping them defeat the political party that is destroying America - Democrats. Destroying America is destroying Anglo-American Empire of the cia Republican cronies.

Former Trump lawyer Eastman said Democrats winning posed a danger to the US and had to be overthrown in 2020. This was the stakes in 2020. The deepstate of the cia cronies did not want Biden in because of the Republican cia plans for the next 4 years. Europe would have been blindsided. There was a war plan with Putin vs Europe if Trump got a second stay in the WH.

Eastman Reiterates Support For Full Insurrection​

“There’s actually a provision in the Declaration of Independence that a people will suffer abuses while they remain sufferable, tolerable while they remain tolerable,” Eastman said. “At some point abuses become so intolerable that it becomes not only their right but their duty to alter or abolish the existing government.”


Europe has had 3 years to rearm - 2022, 2023, 2024. Rearm. There were casualties on January, 6 2021. Don't have that defeat of Trump be only a delay. Europe has to rearm.

Top European official accuses Trump, Putin of trying to weaken EU​

“We are [for the] first time in the history in a situation where the president of the United States and [the] president of Russia seem to share the same view on Europe: the weaker, the better, because they think that it’s better for their own country, which is obviously not right,” Katainen, a former prime minister of Finland, said.

https://thehill.com/policy/internat...cuses-trump-putin-of-trying-to-weaken-the-eu/

Here is why the entire 2014 crisis was staged:

Ukraine: Unexpected Oil Find, Major Gas Interest
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Bottom Line: We see a flurry of activity in Ukraine, with a $735 million Black Sea commitment by Exxon, an unexpected 100 million barrel oil find in the Poltava region and new estimates that the country could achieve annual gas production of 45 billion cubic meters by 2020.

Analysis: First, Ukraine’s state-run oil and gas company Naftogaz on 11 July announced the discovery of an oil field in the eastern/central Poltava region that reportedly contains some 13 million tons of oil, or 100 million barrels of oil. This is the biggest oil find in Ukraine in a decade and a half. The Budishchansko-Chutovskoye oil field is fully owned by Naftogaz, and is the only field fully owned by the state-run company.

The news for Ukraine gets even better this week, though. Exxon Mobil Corp is ready to invest $735 million to drill two deep-water wells offshore Ukraine in the Black Sea ($335 million in a signing bonus for the government and a $400 million commitment for seismic surveys and drilling). This is an amazing show of confidence by Exxon in Ukraine’s Black Sea.

Finally, ExxonMobil has given Ukraine another public boost with a new estimate that the country’s onshore and offshore gas reserves could help it reach production of 45 billion cubic meters by 2020.



Ukraine could have almost replaced Russian energy imports to Europe by 2023. That was not the Russian mission/purpose for Ukraine. Ukraine was to be a puppet of Russia, not energy competitor. Moscow operates as the Anglo-Americans do, if something can rival it, Russia wants it destroyed. Ukraine could rival Russia in terms of gas exports to Europe, and therefore the incident in 2014 was staged by the Kremlin and cronies in the cia, mi6. Dependence on Russian gas was the project of Putin, not for a Russian pawn in Ukraine. These wars are banker wars for profit, for hegemony and for destroying rivals.

The annexation of Crimea took parts of the off shore natural gas fields from Ukraine. The war in Donbas took the rich and quality coal and shale gas from Ukraine. Had nothing to do with persecution of Russian minorities, it was economic and geopolitical. If these reserves were in Western Ukraine, you would expect the Russians to try to capture the whole of Ukraine, as Anglo-Americans give Ukraine little of what it needs to defend from a Russian invasion.

Russia is taking and defending the exact places where the quality coal is, where the shale gas is, where the natural gas is. Those are the areas Russia wants in a peace deal. To rob Ukraine of natural resources.

Poland is the other place of the very high quality coal in Europe. And Putin cronies are threatening to invade Poland, does Poland have Russian majority in the coal and shale areas of Poland, no. Russian cronies want Poland, nonetheless. This is about destroying Europe and Europe's independence, not about Putin propaganda of too many gays in Poland or Ukraine or the other nonsense Russian propaganda. Economic, geopolitical and hegemony. For occupation and resource stealing, to destroy and occupy rivals and foes, not about gay nazis.

Anglo-Americans are going to survive this war, they are well prepared. Whether Europe would is in doubt, Europe must rearm because what good are Polish shale and coal reserves if Russia occupies them. What good are Ukrainian natural gas reserves in Russian hands, only something to blackmail about. Europe must have the weapons for Europe and Ukraine. Europe must be independent economically and with energy, said this last year.

If Trump returns in 2025 and Putin attacks Europe, Trump would blame Biden/Europe for the loss of Ukraine (and maybe have political surrogates go 100% tinfoil hat and blame Soros for Ukraine loss) and minimally help Europe if that.
 
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In short, the very nations safe from Russian aggression are co-conspirators with Russia, MAGA America/cia deepstate, Modi, Brexit UK, Saudis, several others. As Russia is not planning to invade UK or US or Switzerland or many other nations. These are the safe nations, the Putin plan is the EU will burn, India will not. The claims that Russia wants to nuke the US and UK are Russian psy-ops and deceptions to expand US hegemony in making USA or UK victims of Russia with Europe. Are Brexiters wanting to destroy conservative friend in Putin, are MAGA wanting to destroy conservative friend in Putin. No, both fell for the Trump and Putin deception, as most MAGA do not want to send weapons to Ukraine to defend Europe. Europe has to operate as though it were completely alone. Establish energy, economic, political, and military independence. No more reliance from unreliable partners. Once Europe is economically, politically, militarily (with nukes) and energy independent, Europe is safe, the conflict is over. That is the way out. Being in awe and dumbfounded about why is Russia doing this and doing nothing and watching Europe burn is the way to defeat. Being critical of the parties that are behind the conflict whether in London, Washington or Moscow is not defeat unless you do not rearm and are in awe of Putin and why is Europe under attack.

Rhodes Scholars are among the worst trash. Sullivan is a Rhodes Scholar. Bill Clinton with ties of Epstein and cia black-op stuff in Arkansas was a Rhodes Scholar to get an example of a typical corrupt Rhodes scholar that obeys the script of the deepstate. Each Rhodes scholar plays their script, even though many take conflicting scripts, so there is no opposition that is not controlled by cia cronies, whether they are Rhodes Scholars or other cia cronies. Here is the Rhodes plan that Rhodes plotted and left in Rhodes's will - of the planned Rhodes Anglo-dominance.

The New York Times even published an article discussing the founding of the group in the April 9, 1902, edition of the paper, shortly after Rhodes’ death.

The [NY Times] article, headlined “Mr. Rhodes’s Ideal of Anglo-Saxon Greatness” and carrying the remarkable sub-head “He Believed a Wealthy Secret Society Should Work to Secure the World’s Peace and a British-American Federation,” summarized this sensational plan by noting that Rhodes’ “idea for the development of the English-speaking race was the foundation of ‘a society copied, as to organization, from the Jesuits.’” Noting that his vision involved uniting “the United States Assembly and our House of Commons to achieve ‘the peace of the world,'” the article quotes Rhodes as saying: “The only thing feasible to carry out this idea is a secret society gradually absorbing the wealth of the world.

This idea is laid down in black and white in a series of wills that Rhodes wrote throughout his life, wills that not only laid out his plan to create such a society and provided the funds to do so, but, even more remarkably, were collected in a volume published after his death by co-conspirator William T. Stead.



Rhodes Scholars are not the secret society that Rhodes planned, they are the expendable pawns that do the work to achieve the mission of Rhodes. If you watch the entire video in the link it discusses Rhodes played a part in the pushing of Europe to war with WWI to stop the rise of rival of UK - Germany.

Rhodes Scholars such as Bill Clinton do the work of achieving the goals of Anglo dominance. That is their purpose, not European white dominance. US and UK dominance. You believe Anglos cried over the firebombing of Dresden.?. They laughed, Anglos don't care about Europe, look at Brexit.

If Europe does not rearm and defend Ukraine with the surplus of arms, the stupid, imperialist English idiot win. Putin wins. America First wins. Europe last wins. Europe is in over their heads if they did not start to rearm by now.



The owners are the banking, corporate class, and the pro-Anglo gentry class. Sullivan is in the pro-Anglo gentry class. Serving the interests not of NATO or Europe or whites, serving the interests of the Rhodes plan from over a century ago. The Rhodes plan is Anglo dominance. NATO was about using Europe for US and UK dominance after WWII, they don't care about you.


Europe needs to rearm, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Next February is two years after the invasion, and no major rearmament in producing the weapons and ammo by Europe.

You have to actively work to stop their agenda with rearmament, or else you are in awe why Europe is occupied by Russians when the troops roll in, as MAGA and Brexiters cheer for their victory over Europe "to make Europe less gay". Europe has not gone through 80 different psy-ops as Americans have in their cia shill two faced media to say "wait, Anglo-Americans are evil". Europeans are starry eyed completely unprepared. Europe is planned to be occupied with Europeans blaming themselves, not those that planned the destruction of Europe.
 
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John Eastman Comes Clean: Hell Yes We Were Trying to Overthrow the Government

(Eastman) invokes the Declaration of Independence and says quite clearly that yes, (the Trump team) were trying to overthrow the government and argues that they were justified because of the sheer existential threat America was under because of the election of Joe Biden.

January 6th conspirators have spent more than two years claiming either that nothing really happened at all in the weeks leading up to January 6th or that it was just a peaceful protest that got a bit out of hand or that they were just making a good faith effort to follow the legal process. Eastman cuts through all of this and makes clear they were trying to overthrow (“abolish”) the government



Had Trump won, China would be destroyed by 2023. Europe would have been destroyed by Russia with no opportunity to prepare for defenses with a rearmament.

Everybody can now see this:

John Bolton Says 'Putin Was Waiting' For Trump To Withdraw From NATO In Second Term
"In a second Trump term, I think he may well have withdrawn from NATO. And I think Putin was waiting for that," Bolton said.


Meaning Putin is part of the deepstate of Trump and Pompeo and the rest of the old Bush cia. The old Bush cia that vetted Putin as the cia asset Yeltsin replacement.

Boris Yeltsin was Controlled by Hundreds of CIA Agents who instructed him how to run Russia

The first Russian president, Boris Yeltsin, was surrounded by “hundreds” of CIA agents who told him what to do throughout his tenure as leader. That’s according to Ruslan Khasbulatov, the former chairman of Russia’s parliament.

Speaking to radio station Govorit Moskva, Khasbulatov claimed Yeltsin’s entourage was full of Americans. In 1991, he was elected to his leadership post with Washington’s help, it has been alleged, and it is still not yet known to what extent the US remained the voice in his ear throughout his presidency.

“There must have been a hundred [CIA employees],” Khasbulatov said. “They determined everything.” He also added that, after winning the presidential election, Yeltsin would send security officials and heads of departments to the US so the Americans could “examine them” and “give conclusions.”



The Bush cia controlled the Kremlin with Yeltsin. When Putin arrived you would have expected the Anglo cia to freak out to panick about the loss of Russia, yet mi6 pawn Tony Blair said it was Blairs job to like Mr Putin. And cia archleader Bush 43 said could see Putins soul and approved of Putin.

How blind are the masses that the masses are unable to see that Russia is a pawn of the Republican cia that controls Tucker, Trump, Putin, Pompeo and many others.

The complete interconnectedness of these individuals. Relationships going back decades, Trump being the candidate to handle the "China threat" and "China virus". These are staged actors of the deepstate.

Trump and Putin are the US cia deepstate and nobody sees this. Well, many do...

The Real Deep State Is Trump​


Trump was connected to deepstate actors for the past 50 years. Denied the deepstate exists, then when has to be punished for staging a deepstate coup on the country, Trump believes the deepstate is persecuting Trump when Trump is the worst criminal rapist, killer, warmonger, domestic terrorist and far worse crimes, in the nation. And Putin is Trumps henchman.


I'll end with the title above:

John Eastman Comes Clean: Hell Yes We Were Trying to Overthrow the (US) Government (because Biden won)

If you believe you can get away with overthrowing the government, you are the deepstate.
 
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SSSUUUUKAAAAAAA BLYAAAAAAATTTTT!


FAT UGLY GOBLIN!!!


Clown of Kiev Clowning the World. He also bought multi-million dollar Villas in Italy & Tel Aviv which is where the scumbag will run to when his mission of fighting to the last Ukrainian is complete.

Same place as Scumbag Putin whose daughters live in NATO countries and his yatch that he takes to coastal locations of NATO countries.

The West is begging Iran now. Hehe. The whole Western 'power' is now reduced to begging other countries not to trade and be an ally with Russia. Their SWIFT system became useless after CIPS and SPFS financial systems became operational. Countries are also conducting trade based on their currencies and the fiat money is out in the middle. hehehehe

More power to Iran. 👍👍 The same powers who were sanctioning the Iranian people since 1979 are today begging them.

Ask is not the same as begging. The article says 'ask'. Its the diplomatic language. Or in your world, was Russia attacking Ukraine was also a 'begging' exercise. Laugh away as the valuable Rouble is worth less than a penny and now putting in capital controls. Russia, great people , great country, thanks to PUtin is on its way to becoming Somalia.

 
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Doesn't matter you got 4 or 10 aircraft carrier. You need balls to attack Iran. Take a niswar and stop this crap here.


You talk about Putin like he was your ex b/f and he was bit rough lol.
Saddam didn't have balls and he attacked in 1980. And Israel openly assassinates in Iran's heartland without any consequence. May be you think somebody needs balls but these two examples are those that don't

Some burning image. That is not proof. Bring more proof, you NAFO shill wannabe.
40 have been shotdown. Forget helicopters, why do the Generals keep dropping behind the war zone. Today another died. And another one under arrest. This is why Putin will lose: he keeps on punishing his Generals.
 
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Wrong.

Turbines of that kind has maintenance cycle what can not be overstreched cause of building up little cracks over time and if there is no maintenance then Turbines get destroyed in short time. And in total there where 4 turbines not maintened and the other what were reserve already work instead of them but also two of them came into maintenance window. And that is why flow goes down cause not enough working turbines.

Also you easy can see the western lie cause Russia offered to use the Nordstream 2 pipeline what was just finished to send more gas. And the "west" said no. So all doors were open, all gas ready to flow, even more, but "west" said no.
Ah come that’s bullshit with all 4 gas turbines in maintenance or kaputt. Putin wants to sell gas via north stream 2 thus he invents the story and shut down north stream 1. Either way Russia and the west are finished, much a divorced couple nothing more to say.
 
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When realism steps back in:The co-chair of the Congressional Ukraine Caucus declares that the counteroffensive has failed. "I’m not sure the war is winnable anymore, I think the time has come to realistically call for peace talks"


“I think the time has come to realistically call for peace talks. I know President Zelenskyy doesn’t want it,” Harris told his town hall crowd. “But President Zelenskyy, without our help, he would abjectly lose the war. And with our help, he’s not winning. It’s a stalemate now. “
 
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What kind of bullsh-t sanctions are these? Both countries - Russia and North Korea - were heavily sanctioned already. So do they care additional sanctions that Washington imposes? The insanity of the Biden admin is unbelievable. They're throwing sanctions at DPRK as if Kim Jung Ill cares about them.

 
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The whole "counteroffensive" that was hyped in West's media has turned out to be a disaster. So NATO is trying to find a way out of this.

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Ah your talk of “imminent ukranian collapse” again.

Usually you start posting more slightly before the russians are forced to retreat or their offensives culminate.
Lets see if that trend also applies to the current situation.
 
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Ah your talk of “imminent ukranian collapse” again.

Usually you start posting more slightly before the russians are forced to retreat or their offensives culminate.
Lets see if that trend also applies to the current situation.


When things don't go in your elites' way, that is when they rush to calling for a ceasefire. Their cries are all over social media. You just bought the much hyped "counteroffensive" operation that turned to be a slaughter against Ukrainians. 👇


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