Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

TopGun786 · Apr 1, 2023

Vergennes said:
Russia's "red lines" have been violated so many times, they won't do sh/t even if NATO sends troops to Ukraine. Putin is all talk only to please his internal and third world audience.

Third world?
Typical western sense of superiority.
And yes, keep sacrificing Ukrainians.

zectech · Apr 1, 2023

No matter how the Putin media spin it, sanctions did not cause the spike in natural gas prices. Speculators betting on low supplies did. Europe had to increase demand to top off supplies to prevent Putin from cutting off Europe and putting Europe in the dark. Everybody knowledgeable knows that Putin and Russians were threatening and giddy about Europe being in the dark in the winter of 2022/23. Europe had to take as much supply as the market could send Europe during the summer and fall of 2022 to prepare for a potential Russian cut off of natural gas. Market supplies fell and demand rose, causing the price of natural gas to skyrocket. Russia made money off of this, not because of sanctions. Because Europe prepared for the winter of 2022/23 with high reserves, the Russian cut off energy to Europe never happened. Only because of that.

Europe is not importing as much natural gas from Russia, and prices are low, not because sanctions are working against Russia, because wall street speculators see an over supply of natural gas and it is the end of winter. Heading into winter there were shortages, the preparing for a hard cold winter using much needed natural gas supplies and the expectation that Russia would put Europe in the dark, cutting off supplies, as the Russian trolls and Russian propaganda were predicting.

This spike in natural gas prices is going to happen again, because Europe needs to top off their natural gas storage for the winter of 2023/24, Russia is going to make more threats, and supply is not going to keep up with demand. Also, central banks are possibly going to print money (lower interest rates) causing the entire commodities market to spike in prices.

To make Europe dependent on Russian natural gas is the folly, not the sanctions. You cannot rely on Russia for European security, when Russia is trying to destroy Europe.

Russia cuts off gas exports to Europe via Nord Stream indefinitely

By Uliana Pavlova and Anna Cooban, CNN Business
Updated 6:06 AM EDT, Mon September 5, 2022

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/02/energy/nord-stream-1-pipeline-turned-off/index.html

Threats to supply cuts spooks the markets and you can continue to have high natural gas prices from a spooked market.

Ukraine war: Russia threatens to stop supplying gas if not paid in roubles

Vladimir Putin orders "unfriendly" foreign buyers of Russia's gas to open Russian bank accounts.

www.bbc.com

You cannot rely your energy security on a hostile nation that breaks international agreements and invade your friends.

Budapest Memorandum - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nor rely on Russian supplies, when they made it clear to cut off supply, shutting off power and crashing your economy. You have to look elsewhere. None of these factors had to do with sanctions.

Steppe Wolff · Apr 1, 2023

Vergennes said:
third world audience.

Keep your European fake Sense of superiority out from this forum or better shove it up your arse.

Don't forget you are on a Pakistani forum

zectech · Apr 1, 2023

zectech said:
The solution, energy independence, return jobs to Europe from Putinite China, economic growth, currency stability, redundancy of key infrastructure. Rearmament. Europe with own ICBMs. Independence from the pro-Russia cia Republican deepstate. Independence from BRI. Have Europe expand their trade empire, replace Putinite China trade empire.

Been saying the solution for a while. Europe needs energy independence from Russia. Coal, nuclear, solar, wind.

Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen · Apr 1, 2023

https://twitter.com/x/status/1642142888883548164

zectech · Apr 1, 2023

If Europe can spend tens of billions on Russian natural gas, they can afford to spend on wind and solar farms. Expand clean coal and expand nuclear. Can afford armament.

Which would you rather do:

(1) pay Russia hundreds of billions in energy sales per year, so they make weapons in preparation for an attack on the European Union.

(2) be energy independent with coal, nuclear, wind, solar and spend money that would have gone to Russia, instead on European re-armament to not be weak and prevent a war against Russia.

Source:

Former Russian prime minister warns Putin will attack Baltic States next - Washington Examiner

Video EmbedRussia's former prime minister warned on Monday that if Ukraine falls to Russia, Putin will attack the Baltic States next.Mikhail Kasyanov, who served as Russian President Vladimir Putin's first prime minister from 2000 to 2004, told Agence France-Presse on Monday that it

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Exiled Russian oligarch says 'the next steps' of Putin's war may be invasion of the Baltic countries: 'He's at war with the United States and NATO'

"We must understand that, in his head, Putin is at war not with Ukraine. He's at war with with the United States and NATO," Mikhail Khodorkovsky said.

www.businessinsider.com

Russian TV discusses plans to invade Baltic states as Nato sends in more troops

RUSSIAN state TV has aired a discussion on seizing the Baltic states as Nato bolster Eastern European allies with thousands more troops. A former senior officer laid out a chilling scenario for Put…

www.the-sun.com

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/baltics-ukraine-russia-attack-1.6362634

A.P. Richelieu · Apr 1, 2023

Steppe Wolff said:
Keep your European fake Sense of superiority out from this forum or better shove it up your arse.

Don't forget you are on a Pakistani forum

MeFishToo · Apr 1, 2023

Oldman1 said:
Should have use infantry support. Too dangerous that you could get the tank stuck in the trench if the tracks slid into it if driving parallel to the trench.

Yes, it would be dangerous driving over the trench, but they were already in a dangerous situation. Maybe they were even too close for the opponents to fire RPGs at the tank. It looks like a handgrenate was thrown at the tank at the beginning.

Viet said:
Where is that? Bakhmut?
The strategy is ok, tanks shooting into trenches. Kill’ m all. Old WW2 tactic. You don’t know if they throw a grenate.
The US says there are about 6,000 Wagners. 30,000 regular Russia army.
Lots of zombies in such a small place.

If the terrain is flat I dont think the tank can shot into a trench at this close range. I may be wrong.