Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Ali_Baba]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611922577919823872

Another way of saying "i am getting my *** whooped with weapons supplies - please stop so that my boys can start making tiktok video's again ...."

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Looks like the US Congress will block aid to Zelensky regime after Kevin McCarthy was elected as the Speaker of the House.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611951445485535232

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611952572348174337

 

[The SC]

Soledar Front Quick Update..The Russian are attacking everywhere,,​

 

[jhungary]

Ukraine/Russia problem is like Catalonia/Spain problem.

Ukraine/Catalonia people are the same than Russian/Spanish people, but they think they are special and different because his language has a couple of differences.

They dont feel identified, but they are the same.

Don't know much about Spanish and Catalonia, but if you say Ukrainian and Russian are the same people, even before the war in Ukraine, you WILL get hit in the face (You will probably be shot now if you say that to an Ukrainian).

They are nothing alike except both are being Slavic (they are different Slavic group by the way) and both are orthodox. It's like saying Greek or Serbian are the same as Russian

If you know why both President of Russia and President of Ukraine have the SAME FIRST NAME, but they are spelt differently, you will know the different.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Another way of saying "i am getting my *** whooped with weapons supplies - please stop so that my boys can start making tiktok video's again ...."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611848151786192896

https://twitter.com/x/status/1612057584357212163

 

[The SC]

Why Russia wants Bakhmut. Big underground cities can hold tanks and troops, and 100 miles of tunnels..​

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611801936680079360

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611787129452912640

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Shooting down their own planes. No coordination whatsoever between Ukrainian air force and the Ukrainian air defense systems.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1612030262078017538

 

[jhungary]

From what I'm reading by rumors or officially, many of the countries with Leopard 2s are will to give them to Ukraine but only with Germany's blessing. And Germany so far has said it was an escalation since tanks are considered in their view as offensive weaponry which is dumb considering they sent M270s and and PZH2000s and even Marders which can be offensive weaponry and Ukraine is only interested in pushing the Russians out and regaining territory. Not heading towards Moscow with the Leopard tanks! I think they are just waiting for U.S. to take the plunge or lead against any Russian response. Now Germany sending Marders is very promising, which I think they did it because the U.S. and France were willing to send in their IFVs at the same time. Now obviously we don't have Leos or Russian tanks to donate. But if its possible to send in M60s and more Bradleys and M113s along with more M109s SPGs and M198 tow howitzers, maybe it could persuade Germany to allow other countries to send in Leopard 2s since obviously diesel engines but they can be repaired close to home since there are repair facilities all over Europe especially those bordering Ukraine.


Even the most modern tanks have weak armor on the top. Hence why they have APS for handle such a threat. Even Israel can only put so much armor on their tanks.

It's optics as usual. This is what Politician do.

The West can't be seen as unreasonable, you have to at some point believe that Putin will leave when he is seeing his advance stalled. We all know this is not going to happen. But if we don't ever gave Putin a way out. The world (Namely China and their camp) will always blame the West.

That's why the West never talked about transferring any tank to Ukraine. Because that would seen as an offensive gesture. Contrary to M270 or HIMARS, the only way you transfer tanks is to transfer a large quantity, usually be in hundreds if not thousand. I can give you 20 HIMARS and it will be of use some from or another, but if I give you 20 or even 50 tanks, that's pointless.

Now, probably the west know that all bets are off, it's pointless to continue with their restrain, that's why I wrote that before a few days ago before this IFV deal gone thru, the West are going to increase what they are sending to Ukraine. It's just a no brainer.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Key word "Former"

And if you really read the article, they didn't say things don't look good for the Ukrainian, they said Russia will drag this war on unless US unconditionally support.

Technically this war is in a stalemate, which is a common fact, which mean this war is going to drag on, and this WILL NOT BE GOOD FOR BOTH SIDE.

That is what the 2 were talking about.

Read the title and the controlling statement. It is pretty very obvious from their message they were talking about Ukraine. But of course you can believe in your fairy tales.

Fyi, while being former officials, they still have their security clearance, can read the latest CIA, defense and state departments' analysts findings, and can still speak to their former subordinates and career civil servants and diplomats who tell them exactly the facts on the ground. It is not like they were former junior officer like you who was dishonorably discharged from the military and who has no security clearance. These were high-ranking neocons that we're talking about who led the Department of State, CIA, and the Pentagon.

 

[jhungary]

Well they have a couple of options.
Option 1: Build a large factory as you said somewhere in Western or Central Ukraine far from Belarus/Russian borders and hope the Russians don't fire everything at it even with heavy air defense protecting it. Pretty much putting all their eggs in one basket. Could have the factory in some middle of unknown town or village in western Ukraine or in the Carpathian mountains near Romanian and Slovakian border with towns and villages there as well for mountain protection along with air defense.
Option 2: Build smaller multiple hidden factories spread around in small towns. Also have trucks and trailers coming into the factory to pick up the finished tanks at night and leave. Keeping it cover from prying eyes instead of tanks in parking areas. Don't know if they have enough air defense to cover the whole areas of the factories. Unless they have air defense wall.
Option 3: Best one IMO, have a tank factory in Poland run by the Ukrainians and transport it across the border, Ukrainian workers can be collaborating with the Poles as well even train the Ukrainian refugees to help the war effort. In post war they can move back into Ukraine afterwards. I believe they can use the facilities that were meant for repairing Polish T72 tanks. Or start from scratch in another real estate.

I would say all three are going to be implemented. At this stage, it would be better off for the Ukrainian to invest in Poland Border region and turn out equipment from there. Then you migrate a smaller production back into Western Ukraine. And finally when Ukrainian frontline is stablised, you start building big manufacturer hubs back in Western Ukraine.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

If Russia had free press and freedom of opinion, there would be similar opposition voices emerging from there, as well.

Lack of alternative voices in Russia does not mean all is lush and green over there. It just means Russians do not enjoy a basic human right.

About dependency on Western weapons, that's the repetition of the obvious.

Isn't Russia dependent on Iran, North Korea, China and India to run both its economy and the war?

It is called trade.

Besides, those $20,000 priced Iranian-provided Shaheed-136 and Shaheed-131 drones brought the entire infrastructure of Ukraine to its knees. They've depleted the Ukrainian air defense missiles includes the ones provided by the globohomo West.

So it is not like Iranian and DPRK's weapons are not making difference; they're significantly shifting the ground to Russia's favor.

China and India are huge countries, so trading them means Russia beats the Western-imposed sanctions.

Now, how about you pay attention to this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1612042409440940033

https://twitter.com/x/status/1612036655892041729

 

[yuba]

this is sick and this is just sad they are still someones son

Russia is just throwing men into the death

over the years how many men has Russia lost ?

in WWII how many Russians died ? it takes 18 years to make a man

how many more will die, throwing men at at war like they are chickens

well I think if they were chickens they would have better chance

its just like slaughtering a lamb

Its not the sons of those in power but like you said they someones son father brother for them its a lifetime of tears

 

[jhungary]

Read the title and the controlling statement. It is pretty very obvious from their message they were talking about Ukraine. But of course you can believe in your fairy tales.

Fyi, while being former officials, they still have their security clearance, can read the latest CIA, defense and state departments' analysts findings, and can still speak to their former subordinates and career civil servants and diplomats who tell them exactly the facts on the ground. It is not like they were former junior officer like you who was dishonorably discharged from the military and who has no security clearance. These were high-ranking neocons that we're talking about who led the Department of State, CIA, and the Pentagon.

Thats what you did, you read the title.

It said Russia is not going to surrender their ambition on Ukraine DESPITE ALL THEIR SET BACK. And the only way the West can end this stalemate is to supply enough weapon to Ukraine and push the Russian out.

The article said Russia WILL come back for another round, and then another round IF They cannot achieve their aim, and who knows if we help Ukraine to deal with Russia this, we will do it the next time. That's what the article said. But then I doubt you read beyond the "Time is not on Ukrainian Side"

And lol, I know more about the war than you, and I am not your buddy Scott Ritter I don't like little girls and I was not Dishonorably Discharged. I mean, if you like little girl like him, that's not my business.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

A Ukrainian government official went to Paris on new year's eve, perhaps was providing escort services to fellas there, of course all of it charged to Western-provided donor funds.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611846889405648905

More like this official is saying if Zelensky and his wife are going around in Western capitals and spend people's money lavishly, why can't I do the same? That is what this official is essentially alluding to.