Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

No one said you cannot assert the Soviets and the Americans 'lost' in Afghanistan, but there is a catch...All you have to do is go to your generals and make that assertion to their faces and see how hard they laugh.

The reason they laugh, at least inwardly so as not to offend you, is that the military have a different context of 'lost' and 'losing' than civilians. For the military, any military, losing a war is harsh because they actually lose something, like a limb or even life, when they are wrong, while for civilians, when they casually talk of 'lost' or 'losing', the worst they ever lose is their credibility when they are wrong. Civilians can go on with their lives unaffected whereas I have to suffer PTSD, difficult to move because I am less one leg, nowhere to get a job, jolt whenever I hear a loud noise, and cannot hold a conversation with my family and friends. For the military, losing a war is physical while for civilians losing is theoretical.

So yes, by all means, assert that the US 'lost' to the Taliban. And see how many armies would believe you and take on the US military just on your say so.

You can do a war even if you don't have a single casualty. You can win a war even if you have millions of casualties, like the US in WW2. War is about objective, not about casualty.

 

[One_Nation]

Ridiculous narrative there is no charity in wars.. If you allow an enemy to stay they will settle forever. Look at British India for reference.

Nobody has ever occupied Afghanistan nor Colony era happened there neither because they made it hell for anyone who came in.. There was fighting everyday in Afghanistan. It was just under-reported for obvious reasons but the Taliban controlled 40% of afghanistan for like 15+ years in the 20 year war.. Until the otherside burned thru 20 trillion USD in the war of attrition.

Even for the US printing capability this was to much spend on an empty backward they had no intention of using that much money.. Afghan-US war is the most expensive war in history..

The Soviet union didn't collapse in Afghanistan out of fluke..

Ukraine is not Afghanistan they will not push out Russia and will likely settle for a ceasefire and release the eastern part to Russia.. Plus Russia ain't collasping in Ukraine they simply are not Afghans.

They don't have the consistency.. 1st year, 2nd year , 4th year etc etc that is not when fatigue sets in but in the 5th to 8th year the enemy will start to lose resolve you just keep up the consistency. The Afghans know how to break an Enemies resolve slowly. They all have limits.

Mongols did occupy Afghanistan for a significant amount of time and did terrible things there.

 

[925boy]

Again, if Taliban is really that "Fierce" fighter we all fear, tell me which COP and FOB they overrun? So we can be fear of them?? LolC

COB and FOB has to do with battles, tactical perspective, THEY ARE NOT THE WAR ITSELF. yes US won every battle against taliban, but it still lost the war. you can say whatever you want, that doesn't change or negate the fact US lost the Afghanistan war.

Nothing is unlimited. Who says its difficult to understand. but this is Russia you are talking about they stockpile last for 2 3 years. its not always the case of 60K per day. its in peak conditions. these figures are for peak point. if they are short they just buy from friendlies simple.

these guys opposing you are TALKING PROPAGANDA- have you forgotten its these same NATO bich countries that were buying TONs of small arms and weapons from Croatia, bulgaria etc to fund their asymmetrical militant project named ISIS?? Why didnt the US army just go fight htose enemies itself directly instead of funding ISIS Indirectly via UAE that bought toyota cruisers for ISIS via TOyota production line in Japan??

Anybody can buy weaposn from anybody, these damn hypocrites want us to forget that Ukraine today is fighting almost 100% with foreign weapons it cant buy or make. THey always create a diferent standard for every country that's different from US, a sign of their low analytical ability and brainwashing.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571860408654348290

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571860411204472836

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571860413398253570

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571854408689795073

 

[Viet]

Germany sends 4x more king of artillery to Ukraine.

Pz 2000

Immediate delivery

Ukraine needs them urgently for ongoing offensive.

Bundeswehr gibt vier weitere Panzerhaubitzen 2000 an Ukraine ab

Die Bundeswehr will der Ukraine vier weitere Artilleriegeschütze des Typs Panzerhaubitze 2000 zur Verfügung stellen. Es handle sich um gebrauchte und wieder instand gesetzte Hochleistungs-Geschütze des Heeres, die nun "trotz der angespannten eigenen Materiallage" an die Ukraine abgegeben werden...

de.nachrichten.yahoo.com

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571873857560055808

 

[khansaheeb]

I totally agree with you. Why NATO left Afghanistan is another matter entirely. It should be discussed in another topic.

By the way, I think Trump's smartest decision was to leave Afghanistan. You cannot force people to change. If they want to live in the Middle Ages, let them do so. As long as they don't interfere with others.

It wasn't Trump's decision it was the US military decision which was endorsed by the politicians who realised they had been defeated. Of course they will try and put a spin on it but the facts tell the true story, just like the Russians are trying to put a spin on the facts in Ukraine.

 

[Viet]

The new soldiers for special mil ops in Ukraine:

ex inmates of a prison in Siberia
Money and freedom should they still alive and survive after 6 months.

Putin’s money coffer seems running low. Instead of $5,000 per month new soldiers receive $2,500 per month. 50 percent less.

Bild vergrößern
Häftlinge in einem sibirischen Gefängnis: Amnestie nach einem halben Jahr an der Front
Foto: Ilya Naymushin / Sputnik / IMAGO

 

[merzifonlu]

And who is going to enforce that? You?

Why are you asking me this? You should ask Ex. POTUS Trump. There is one thing he trusts, which is that the US withdrew its troops from Afghanistan.

 

[Tornado23]

The new soldiers for special mil ops in Ukraine:

ex inmates of a prison in Siberia
Money and freedom should they still alive and survive after 6 months.

Putin’s money coffer seems running low. Instead of $5,000 per month new soldiers receive $2,500 per month. 50 percent less.

Bild vergrößern
Häftlinge in einem sibirischen Gefängnis: Amnestie nach einem halben Jahr an der Front
Foto: Ilya Naymushin / Sputnik / IMAGO

Hiring prisoners is a great way to allow for war crimes and what not.

 

[merzifonlu]

Hiring prisoners is a great way to allow for war crimes and what not.

Unfortunately. If they had already waged an ethical war, they would have declared a general mobilization. They themselves are aware of what the hell they are doing.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

I dont doubt US strength, its unparalleled. There are many countries US can defeat. Russia, china, all of EU. It can however not defeat Taliban or prevent them from ruling Afghanistan. This it seems will take some time to sink in and be accepted by many Americans. And its This lack of understanding and insight which led to the US defeat in Afghanistan.

Yes Taliban lost more soldiers, but their flag flies over Kabul. By any measure they won the war.

You lost, accept it, move on and learn from it. or dont. make no difference to me. Do it again but at your own peril.

US won in Afghanistan the same way russia will win in Ukraine. It will withdraw and declare total victory and all objectives achieved.

US won in Afghanistan the same way Japan won Ww2. you see Japan just got tired of fighting and there was no more domestic support for the war, particularly in Nagasaki, and a small group of Japanese leaders decided its better to end the war for their own political future.

The Taliban fails at governing Afghanistan right now. They do not need any help making a pigs breakfast of the country. They would resign if they were not so clueless.

 

[The SC]

Interesting..Non-biased analysis of the SMO and what to come..

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1571882448434204676