Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Elvin]

The fact Russians are evacuating civilians who want to go with them from cities they hand over to the AFU smells to me. Either Russia is planning an offensive OR it will use an EMP or twctical nuke to hit large concentrations of AFU forces.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1592330564270690304

No Shahed or cruise missile strikes in the last week.

 

[Lehrasap]

Whether we are a dictatorship, that's our problems, the real reason was never about that, it's about our defiance against US hegemony, i dont see the West toppling Saudi Arabia? All this is bullshit, as long as China is weak or submissive like Japan, all is well. US actually used to prefer dictators to real demicratic countries, they tend to topple populist leaders. Wake up slaves!

I am afraid you are mistaken.
There is a lot of opposition against Saudi like dictatorship among the Western people. It is even more than Chinese system. Yes, Saudi is an Allie, but still it is hated.
Nevertheless, the western people also know that this world is not an ideal place and we have to make compromises. Even if we try to impose western democracy and our values upon these people, still this is not going to work as people of SA are themselves not ready for it.
But imagine, if SA gets enough power to challenge us, then it will become even bigger problem for us.
The same is true about China.
Firstly, China's socialist government is totally against our values. And secondly, now it has become powerful enough to challenge us. it will only leads towards fight in the near future, as a stronger China will impose its system upon nearby countries like Hong Kong (while Hong Kong people are not ready to go under the Chinese system).
Why Hong Kong people don't want Chinese system or to join China? The answer is the same that they think the same way as the Western people think.

 

[Han Patriot]

I am afraid you are mistaken.
There is a lot of opposition against Saudi like dictatorship among the Western people. It is even more than Chinese system. Yes, Saudi is an Allie, but still it is hated.
Nevertheless, the western people also know that this world is not an ideal place and we have to make compromises. Even if we try to impose western democracy and our values upon these people, still this is not going to work as people of SA are themselves not ready for it.
But imagine, if SA gets enough power to challenge us, then it will become even bigger problem for us.
The same is true about China.
Firstly, China's socialist government is totally against our values. And secondly, now it has become powerful enough to challenge us. it will only leads towards fight in the near future, as a stronger China will impose its system upon nearby countries like Hong Kong (while Hong Kong people are not ready to go under the Chinese system).
Why Hong Kong people don't want Chinese system or to join China? The answer is the same that they think the same way as the Western people think.

I think the best way to describe US is this, it's a country run by the deep state, lobbied by the corporations with politicians elected by the people as puopets to give a facade of democracy. Alot policies executed by the GOTUS is actually against the wishes of the people but heck what do I know. When you say Americans hate Saudis, you need to define which section of Americans? The deep state? The corporatocracy or the average Joe. Once you understand this concept th3n come back and talk to me.

Your values or facade of that value is your problem, our system is our problem. China does not seek to destroy US but US seeks to destroy China. ONLY an idiot thinks US is peaceful. China seeks a multipolar world with power shared among the other powers, US seeks hegemony. You see tge difference, we are no angel but US is definitely the devil wearing a holy mask.

 

[thetutle]

World is running out of cheap fossil energy, and since one decade ago it was started to get energy through shale oil, fracking and so on.

Only because Europe has raised taxes on electricity production. They could halve the price tomorrow.

No Muslim worth his salt would join in a war of oppression. Join who? Russia? The same people who butchered women and children by the bucket loads in Chechnya and actively recruit ethics as cannon fodder. Why should Muslims join a war against Ukraine? What has Ukraine done to the Muslim world?

Ukraine and its people have earned the respect of this Muslim. Слава Україні!

Also

This is a good point. muslims are definitely divided on the issue. I have no doubt some sincerely support russia. The truth is the west and russia probably hate muslims equally. Before this war russia is basically a part of the west. Both the west and russia sought to Destroy and weaken muslims. The muslims living is both west and russia probably get a similar shitty deal. Muslims in Russia probably get less institutional and societal discrimination which I find surprising. Depends on your colour though.

Ukraine has not harmed Muslims lately but they have historically while under russian rule in taking over Crimea and populating it.

I cant really blame some muslims for supporting Russia, particularly Iranians, but to most muslims in the world and particularly those in europe and central Asia, an expanding russia is not a good thing.

As a Bosnian, I cant see any huge effect on us if russia took Ukraine, and short of its army linking up with Serbia, I'd say we are safe. But I just get an overall feeling that Its far better to live under the western sphere of influence in NATO and EU than in russia.

I think the best way to describe US is this, it's a country run by the deep state, lobbied by the corporations with politicians elected by the people as puopets to give a facade of democracy. Alot policies executed by the GOTUS is actually against the wishes of the people but heck what do I know.

I think you might be spot on.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

P.S. while googling up what they shot at them, it came to me that US artilley shells still use plain cast TNT, not even modern TNT with phlegmatisers, and high temperature additives.



I highly doubt that. US itself chose to deal with crippled communist China over a national Chinese state, thinking that the later will be way nastier.

Same for Russia. Even if Russia will be properly Balkanised, stripped off control of Siberia, and made into a state with federative structure stronger than even Germany, they will, absolutely certainly, return to what they did for centuries even while being a democratic nation.

This is exactly the reason why we fear India too.

The democratic nations are perfectly capable of initiating aggression on their own without any external reason for it.

Only if one see actions of genocidal dictators like Saddam, Mullah Omar, Gadaffi and Milosevich as perfectly normal.

 

[aviator_fan]

Whatever weakness or scenario, facts as facts, please get back to the topic.
You think we are going to nuke US and start WW3 because an old lady was visiting? Its just drama mate. Ok let's get back to topic. Until i see US or NATO boots on the ground, US is just making noises, i remember US warning Russia about their redline, Russia invaded anyway, lol.

This is your typical behavior I have now seen it 3x in the last 2 days. You bring back random unrelated facts (US deaths, India British creation, US not dare to enter Ukraine, the greatness of China 2000 years ago) all from an ignorant, illinformed lens of somebody that could be a bot for Chinese Govt (not that of even a below average Chinese citizen). When you are challenged you adopt the common sense: 'lets get back to the point'.

You are a distraction for everybody here, and by your ignorance, those of us like China, are losing our patience in bringing your IQ.

So lets get back to the Ukraine war and you stop bringing back comments that a 10 year old with access to google would not make

 

[kingQamaR]

well , i'm all on this war most continue , but honestly it seems giving russia weapon is not the way , we must start training , their commanders in modern warfare strategy .
what the point is if we give them weapon and they use it wrong

The Russian military is a laughingstock. If they had not invaded Ukraine, nobody would have known how rubbish their military is.

 

[Viet]

That's entirely possible with conventional artillery at short range, if the gunnery is near excellent. This explosion is very likelly not a 152mm or 155mm, but 122mm, or 105mm.

Those 122mm pieces can easily target individual vehicles under 10km with first shot. UK's most upgraded 105mm have thermal sights with targetting computers, and a radar+GPS for targetting past visual range.

UA has invested a lot into artillery training since it was the only weapon they had a lot of 8 years ago.

By such precision artillery strikes, the 320,000 Putin’s mobis are doomed. Casualties run by 1,000 per day, they won’t make any difference, they are worthless sacrifices.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1592330564270690304

No Shahed or cruise missile strikes in the last week.

Such slow flying Iran suicide drones are easy targets for Germany Iris-T missile batteries. They take down drones, aircraft with 100 percent accuracy. The tide has turned.

 

[sutton999]

It is not only US, but all the Western people have problem with China.
And this problem is not with Chinese people, but only with the Chinese System of Government.
If China becomes a real democracy, then there will be no problem any more. At least Western people will not fear China any more, and even support China if US Government tries to do anything wrong.
Therefore, the biggest problem is Chinese dictatorship.

low iq

https://twitter.com/x/status/1591403056234913793

https://twitter.com/x/status/1591745186262310913

Which side do you think US actually supports during Chinese civil war in 40s?

 

[ZeGerman]

Reports of Ukrainian breakthroughs on this front

Only because Europe has raised taxes on electricity production. They could halve the price tomorrow.

This is a good point. muslims are definitely divided on the issue. I have no doubt some sincerely support russia. The truth is the west and russia probably hate muslims equally.

Ah that must be why we so generously allow muslim immigration and mosques in our countries….populations growing tenfold…
Or saved kosovo from the serbs…
Or give so much food and monetary aid…

Because “west hates muslims”…smh

Before this war russia is basically a part of the west. Both the west and russia sought to Destroy and weaken muslims.

Oh please…”muslim” power plummeted after ottoman collapse. If russia and west (two superpowers) were truly intent to “destroy the muslims” you would have seen “the disappearing christians in Middle East/Armenian marches/uyghur re-education” worldwide and there was nothing anyone would be able to do against it.

Simple example:
People on this thread cry about Nato vs Afghanistan….afghan life expectancy greatly increased during Nato occupation…but yeah…the “evil west” wants to “destroy muslims”…please this is demonizing and generalizing to the level of the kristallnacht…stop spreading these hatefull lies.

The muslims living is both west and russia probably get a similar shitty deal. Muslims in Russia probably get less institutional and societal discrimination which I find surprising. Depends on your colour though.

West scores much much better on human rights, rule of law, freedoms, upward social mobility on minorities then how minorities are treated in muslim countries….
Fact

I cant really blame some muslims for supporting Russia, particularly Iranians, but to most muslims in the world and particularly those in europe and central Asia, an expanding russia is not a good thing.

As a Bosnian, I cant see any huge effect on us if russia took Ukraine, and short of its army linking up with Serbia, I'd say we are safe. But I just get an overall feeling that Its far better to live under the western sphere of influence in NATO and EU than in russia.

Thats why half of europe came running to Nato.

I think you might be spot on.

 

[AlKardai]

Check out the shop name:
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I have used these vests in the past before. I can tell you that they are actually decently hard wearing, but barely hold plates in place, don’t have enough pockets, super loud Velcro, and a very tricky release system

 

[Han Patriot]

Dude, you are the one who asked me to be thankful because of the West. Should i also say thank you for their 200 years of drug peddling? So lets get bck to topic eh.

 

[sammuel]

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I am pretty sure the dingo berry basket is attached at the wrong end.

I think I can see the grill on this picture where they attached to (Which mean the main gun is facing the direction of the driver). which mean that's the engine and that's exhaust. If you attach a heat signature outside the exhaust will only guide the missile toward the engine, because whatever that's burning the engine is going to be hotter than theat thing...


Yeah, that's why as the video said he is getting delusion on that. But that quite a change ain't it? Ever since the last time a missile or artillery disrupt their Telegram social media shot.


This is not new......I said they were raiding airsoft store back in Russia since September, looks like they have emptied the Air Soft store and now moving on to Alibaba......Well, at least you won't be able to cheat by not calling hit when you were hit........>.< (If you play airsoft before, cheating is a rampant problem of any air soft game...)

Or maybe they ran out of money? I don't know.

One of the few advantages of the Russian tanks are their low profile.

T-72 is 2.23 m in height , T 80 2.202 in height . compared to the Abraham Tank - in height 2.44 m

Add to that the low turret , that the Soviet model usually have , and they have an advantage when hiding and firing behind a hill or a ramp.

Now imagine trying to hide behind a ramp with this contraption attached to your tank. You would be spotted from miles away.




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[alimobin memon]

That KA52 is so garbage honestly, it lacks stabilization, you can see the gunner struggling to keep the sight stabilized on the target, and the pilot is forced to hover.

With respect. I think their is misconception. Due to heavy AD manpads these choppers are flying low and targeting at very long range and there will be some issue of stabilization as they are zooming in at max effective range. Vikhr is a 12km range missile with laser beam guidance so yes the cursor has to be on target to keep it on lock mode. Laser beam is not NLOS but LOS missile so there will be these issues.

Honestly, I am puzzled by the reaction of PDF members as if Russian hardware is not good. Which is not true apart from tanks everything is working as good as any war machine. You are in enemy territory backed by NATO support and large no. of manpads. Even other choppers like Apache, Tiger, Cobra would face the same.