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WTF, this is crazy stuff straight out of a comedy movie.
Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2
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It seems NATO came to realize the inevitable Russian military victory over the Ukrainian forces, and they've opted to directly interfere. This is World War III. There is no way Russia will easily accept a defeat in Ukraine.
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RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, OCTOBER 23
Oct 23, 2022 - Press ISW
Download the PDFBy Mason Clark
October 23, 5:30pm ET
ISW is publishing an abbreviated campaign update today, October 23. This report focuses on Russian Defense Minister Shoigu's several calls with his western counterparts and preposterous claims that Ukraine is preparing a false-flag “dirty bomb” attack against Russia, likely to pressure Ukraine into concessions and intimidate NATO. On the battlefield, Ukrainian forces conducted further offensive operations in northeastern Ukraine, and Russian forces continued to set conditions for a withdrawal from Kherson. Those developments are summarized briefly and will be covered in more detail tomorrow.
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu likely sought to slow or suspend Western military aid to Ukraine and possibly weaken the NATO alliance in scare-mongering calls with several NATO defense ministers on October 23. Shoigu separately called his counterparts from France, Turkey, the United Kingdom, and the United States on October 23, claiming that Ukraine is preparing to conduct a false-flag attack using a dirty bomb (a conventional explosive laced with radioactive material that is not a nuclear weapon) to accuse Russia of using weapons of mass destruction.[1] Russian state media amplified this false and ridiculous claim.[2] Russian Ministry of Defense reports on the calls contain slight differences; they state that Shoigu discussed a claimed “steady tendency towards further, uncontrolled escalation” in Ukraine in the call with his French counterpart; discussed the “situation in Ukraine” and made false claims that Ukraine is preparing to use a dirty bomb in his calls with the United Kingdom, France, and Turkey; and simply discussed the situation in Ukraine without reference to a dirty bomb in his conversation with US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin. Shoigu last spoke with Secretary Austin on October 21. Representatives from the United States, United Kingdom, and Ukraine categorically denied and condemned Shoigu’s false allegations, and US Secretary Austin called his UK counterpart, Ben Wallace, following the calls with Shoigu.[3] France and Turkey have not issued formal statements as of this writing.
The Kremlin is unlikely to be preparing an imminent false-flag dirty bomb attack. Shoigu’s claims further a longstanding Russian information campaign. The Kremlin has repeatedly claimed that Western states will help Ukraine conduct a false-flag WMD attack since the earliest stages of its invasion of Ukraine in February. The Russian Ministry of Defense claimed it had information the US was “preparing provocations to accuse the Russian Armed Forces of using chemical, biological, or tactical nuclear weapons” in April.[4] Putin claimed in his pre-invasion speech on February 24 that Ukraine was preparing for a nuclear attack against Russia, and Russian state disinformation outlets repeatedly claimed Western states were supporting Ukraine’s development of nuclear weapons and planning false-flag attacks.[5]
Shoigu’s claims likely do not portend Russian preparations to use non-strategic nuclear weapons in Ukraine either. ISW previously stated on September 30 that “ISW cannot forecast the point at which Putin would decide to use nuclear weapons. Such a decision would be inherently personal, but Putin’s stated red lines for nuclear weapon use have already been crossed in this war several times over without any Russian nuclear escalation.”[6] Russia does not “need,” under formal Russian nuclear doctrine, a further event to justify nuclear weapons use.[7] Ukraine is not apparently on the verge of tripping some new Russian redline, on the other hand, that might cause Putin to use non-strategic nuclear weapons against it at this time. Shoigu’s comments are thus unlikely to presage a nuclear terror attack against one or more major Ukrainian population centers or critical infrastructure in hopes of shocking Ukraine into surrender or the West into cutting off aid to Ukraine. Such attacks would be highly unlikely to force Ukraine or the West to surrender, as Ukraine’s government and people have repeatedly demonstrated their will to continue fighting, and the West would find it very challenging simply to surrender in the face of such horrific acts because of the precedent such surrender would set.
Shoigu’s calls—and Russian state media’s amplification of false dirty bomb threats—are therefore likely intended to intimidate Western states into cutting or limiting support for Ukraine as Russia faces continued military setbacks and the likely loss of western Kherson by the end of the year. ISW has assessed since May that Putin seeks to force Ukraine to accept his terms and deter continued Western support for Ukraine through nuclear brinksmanship.[8] The recipients of Shoigu’s calls are also notable. The Kremlin has repeatedly framed the United States and the United Kingdom as Ukraine’s primary backers and the enablers of what it claims are aggressive policies toward Russia, while France and Turkey have (to varying degrees) framed themselves as mediators in the conflict. Shoigu’s round of calls was likely further Russian saber-rattling to intimidate Ukraine’s Western supporters and possibly widen fissures within the NATO alliance, not condition setting for imminent nuclear use.
Key inflections in ongoing military operations on October 23:
- Russian authorities likely cut internet access in Kherson City on October 22 to limit local reporting of Russian evacuations to the east bank of the Dnipro River.[9] Russian sources claimed that Russian forces repelled Ukrainian ground attacks in northwestern Kherson Oblast.[10]
- Ukrainian and Russian sources reported fighting near Siversk, Soledar, Bakhmut, Avdiivka, and Marinka in eastern Ukraine.[11] The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed that Russian forces repelled Ukrainian ground attacks in western Donetsk Oblast.[12]
- Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations in the direction of Kreminna and Svatove.[13]
- Russian forces struck Zaporizhzhia City, Mykolaiv City, and other areas in Mykolaiv Oblast with Shahed 136 drones and S-300 missiles.[14] Ukrainian sources reported that Russian forces targeted Nikopol and Marhanets with multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) strikes.[15]
- A spokesperson for the Ukrainian Air Force Command claimed that Ukrainian forces have shot down a total of 273 Iranian-provided Shahed-136 drones since Russia began using them in Ukraine on September 13.[16]
- A Ukrainian government source reported that Iranian instructors in Belarus (in addition to previously reported instructors in Crimea) aided Russian forces in the coordination of previous Shahed-136 drone strikes against Kyiv Oblast and northern and western oblasts in Ukraine.[17]
- Russian outlets continued to set conditions to blame Ukraine for the destruction of the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant, which Russian forces will likely destroy to slow advancing Ukrainian forces[18][19]
- Russian sources widely discussed the construction of defensive positions in Kursk Oblast.[20]
- A Ukrainian source reported that Russian authorities in Krasnodar Krai have “indefinitely” extended the “vacations” (meaning forced abductions as part of an ethnic cleansing campaign) of children from Enerhodar, Zaporizhia Oblast.[21]
- Russian sources reported that private businesses are offering to train mobilized men on privately owned military and medical equipment in exchange for money.[22] Another Russian fighter aircraft crashed into a two-story building in Novo-Lenino, Irkutsk Oblast.[23]
[1] https://****/mod_russia/21117; https://****/mod_russia/21118; https://****/mod_russia/21124; https://****/mod_russia/21126.
[2] https://ria dot ru/20221023/provokatsiya-1825967691.html; https://****/boris_rozhin/68219; https://****/rt_special/1916.
[3] https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1584200202948612096?s=20&t=LbM0tNaw...; https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1584201364259115008?s=20&t=LbM0t...; https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1584257292551491585?s=20&t=Lb... https://twitter.com/SecDef/status/1584268803642654721?s=20&t=j-i_UUudCVE....
[4] https://tass.com/defense/1442031.
[5] https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/warning-update-russia-may-cond....
[6] https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/special-report-assessing-p....
[7] https://rusemb dot org dot uk/press/2029#:~:text=25.,with%20the%20Collective%20Security%20Treaty; https://globalsecurityreview.com/nuclear-de-escalation-russias-deterrenc....
[8] https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-annexation-occupie...; https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/special-report-assessing-p....
[9] ; ; https://sprotyv dot mod.gov.ua/2022/10/23/blokuyut-zvyazok-v-khersoni/
[10] https://****/Stremousov_Kirill/583; https://****/mod_russia/21119; https://****/Stremousov_Kirill/582
[11] https://****/rybar/40526; https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid02Lg4cBCKLhpZAD6gWRX...; https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid02HJ96rqxm3m8xPQhHPJ...; https://****/wargonzo/8836
[12] https://****/mod_russia/21119
[13] https://****/mod_russia/21119 ; https://****/rybar/40517 ; https://****/vysokygovorit/9763 ; https://****/wargonzo/8836 ;
[14] ; https://****/vilkul/2141; https://****/zoda_gov_ua/14136; https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid02Lg4cBCKLhpZAD6gWRX...
[15] https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid02Lg4cBCKLhpZAD6gWRX...; https://****/Yevtushenko_E/1136 ; https://****/dnipropetrovskaODA/2222 ; https://****/dnipropetrovskaODA/2225;
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[18] https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid02KyRpWLQGQ6DjSeAwCm...
[19] https://****/vrogov/5721 ; https://****/notes_veterans/6159
[20] https://****/readovkanews/45127 ; https://****/grey_zone/15448; https://****/epoddubny/13287; https://****/rybar/40524 ; https://****/boris_rozhin/68205
[21] https://****/orlovdmytroEn/1184
[22] https://****/Sladkov_plus/6536
[23] https://****/andriyshTime/3905 ; ; ; https://twitter.com/auditor_ya/status/1584159618875371520 https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1584139859689553922; https://****/smotri_media/27918; https://****/smotri_media/27922; https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1584142937197146112; https://****/smotri_media/27933; https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1584134837988134919; https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1584137062910869505; https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1584135268533039105
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What? NATO troops are going to run into some nuclear fallout area? I don't think so.
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What are they going to target? Ukraine doesn't mass their troops. Plus Russia is downwind of Ukraine.
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You are correct. Not being facetious but you are correct. Any country whose government either give of its own military resources and/or actively facilitate the transport of military resources to Ukraine has taken a side. The consequences are up to Russia to create. Given the sorry performance of the Russian military, I would not wait too long for Russia to do anything. The Russian military must take care of Ukraine first, secure Ukraine meaning make sure Ukraine cannot fight any more, rebuild itself, then wage war against Ukraine's allies. Currently, no one is confident Russia can do the first item.
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How come the people behind that dude looks kinda plump? The power of propaganda, not saying the Serbs were saints, but that does not mean anyone can just invade a sovereign country without UN mandate.
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On one hand, they tell us Russia is running out of weapons; on the other hand, they tell us "Russia is taking over the world". Lying and doublespeak are the norm for today's Western politicians.
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