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So much for Iranian 'independence' if it relies on components from the 'great' satan to produce these. Now its remains to be seen if NATO can adapt and knowing the components can figure out an area jamming system. Russians took 5 months to adapt , eventually using these imported weapons. Lets see if NATO and Ukraine does it in a month.

REgardless destroying civilian buildings in random locations does not generate the war fighting capability. US realized in Vietnam. Iran-Iraq realized in their battle of cities, and Israel to an extent in Gaza.

Hahahahahha the evolution of butthurt^

-First Iranian drones were fake/sucked
-Then super dooper western winderweapos would make easy work of them
-now they are praying that Iran was dumb enough to make its weapons dependent on western tech…

Whats the next fantasy you gonna come up with?

Do you simpletons really believe that Iran doesnt have a work around? Iran is absolutely obsessed with self suffiency. Iran has never forgotten how its state of the art american military became useless overnight when cutoff.

And this is a basic (but ingenious) weapon
Whats with your idiotic 'haha' and 'hoo hoo'. Seems like you belong on a teenage forum than here.

Iran's state of the art is assembling pieces from the satanic countries. Which means it is going to be equally easy to develop countermeasure.

What you should be really ashamed of is the Iranians are worse than Israelis in terms of their back stabbing Ghazans. They had all these weapons but never gave it to Hamas who was fighting with missiles that Iron Dome could defeat and then Gazan civilians would pay the ultimate price.

This is the evilness of the bearded regime who never truly wanted to hurt Israel but is really good at attacking its teenage women. Nice!
 
At least russian population increased after all people crossed original russia from these regions. To me ukraine infra destroyed and russian population imcrease is one kind of a way of winning. Calling it tactical retreat is not defeat.
Do you mean in the annexed regions? The situation in Russia is very different:

death rate (not war related) is higher by 800K than birth rate, and birth late is going to fall further.


Russia headed for demographic disaster due to war​

Updated Oct 19, 2022, 8:43am EDT
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Fewer and fewer people are being born in Russia every year, data shows. That's posing a problem for President Vladimir Putin, whose mobilization in Ukraine is accelerating fears that the country is headed toward a demographic crisis.
A Russian serviceman addresses reservists at a gathering point in the course of partial mobilization of troops in the town of Volzhsky on September 28, 2022.
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Russia's birth rate and total population stabilized in the 2010s, but have been sharply declining since then, World Bank data shows. And if the war in Ukraine continues, there will be just 1.2 million births in Russia next year, “the lowest in modern history,” according to Bloomberg. Total deaths, meanwhile, average around 2 million every year, but that increased during the pandemic.
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Putin has been trying to boost the country's birth rate for years. In early 2020, he said the demographic situation was "very difficult" and announced a slate of new measures aimed at helping families.
But experts say the war is only making population growth harder, with more men away from their families.
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Hundreds of thousands of Russian men have been drafted in recent weeks as Putin announced a new military mobilization. But hundreds of thousands more have fled to other countries, according to The New York Times.
The impact to the country's birth rate "will be stronger the longer the mobilization lasts," Igor Efremov, a researcher in Moscow, told Bloomberg. He said if the war continues through next spring, it would be "catastrophic."

Once again trump isn’t president, either is bush.
Please stop with your spam
Kissinger is a 98 year old and has had no role: who cares what he thinks? What if Alexei Navalny says Putin should vacate. Nobody gives a rat's a**
 
Some Russian telegram blogger said Mylove is fallen with heavy Ukrainian loss.
Ukrainian channel reported the same, but did not mention loss.

If this is the case, then they are probably looking at Nova Kakovhka probably now.
I thought ukrianians forces were going to hit moscow soon.
 

Ukraine moves to cut diplomatic ties with Iran after drone attacks​


  • Dmytro Kuleba
  • Volodymyr Zelensky

    Volodymyr Zelensky

Tue, 18 October 2022 at 5:48 am·2-min read


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FILE PHOTO: Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba attends the 77th Session of the United Nations General Assembly
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KYIV (Reuters) -Ukraine's foreign minister said on Tuesday he was submitting a proposal to President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to formally cut diplomatic ties with Tehran after a wave of Russian attacks using what Kyiv says are Iranian-made drones.
Russia launched dozens of "kamikaze" drones on targets in Ukraine on Monday, striking energy infrastructure and killing several civilians.
Ukraine says the attacks were carried out with Iranian-made Shahed-136 drones. Tehran denies supplying the drones.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said Kyiv was certain they were Iranian and would be ready to share a "bag of evidence" to European powers in doubt.
"Tehran bears full responsibility for the destruction of relations with Ukraine", Kuleba told a news conference. "I am submitting to the president of Ukraine a proposition to sever diplomatic ties with Iran."
Kuleba said he had urged the European Union to impose sanctions on Iran "for helping Russia to kill Ukrainians."
"Severe sanctions against Iran are especially relevant right now, as we are witnessing reports on Iranian intentions to give Russia ballistic missiles to be used against Ukrainians," he said.
"The actions of Iran are vile and deceitful. We won’t suffer them, because all those actions were done while Iran told us that they didn’t support the war and won’t support any of the sides with their weapons."
Kuleba said Kyiv would send an official note to Israel seeking immediate air defence supplies and cooperation in the sector.
There was no immediate Israeli response to Kuleba's remarks.
Earlier on Tuesday, a member of Israel's decision-making security cabinet, Justice Minister Gideon Saar, told national broadcaster Army Radio: "Our support for Ukraine does not include weapons systems and weaponry - and there is no change to that position."
While Israel has condemned the Russian invasion of Ukraine and provided Kyiv with humanitarian relief, it has stopped short of also providing military support, citing concern for continued cooperation with Moscow over next-door Syria.
(Reporting by Max Hunder in Kyiv and Dan Williams in Jerusalem; writing by Tom Balmforth; editing by Timothy Heritage)


Gantz: Israel may supply Ukraine with rocket and drone alert system, but not weapons​

Defense minister says Jerusalem seeking info needed for development of ‘life-saving civilian early-warning system,’ amid repeated Russian attacks on Ukrainian cities​

By EMANUEL FABIAN 19 October 2022, 4:16 pm
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Defense Minister Benny Gantz speaks to ambassadors from EU nations on October 19, 2022 (Ariel Hermoni/Defense Ministry)
Defense Minister Benny Gantz speaks to ambassadors from EU nations on October 19, 2022 (Ariel Hermoni/Defense Ministry)
Defense Minister Benny Gantz on Wednesday reiterated that Israel would not supply weapons to Ukraine to fight Russia’s eight-month-long invasion, but said Jerusalem could supply an early-warning system to the beleaguered nation to warn of incoming strikes, like the one used in Israel.
Speaking to a group of European Union ambassadors a day after Ukraine said it would submit a formal request for Israeli air defense systems like Iron Dome, Gantz ruled out the sale of such weapons.
“Israel supports and stands with Ukraine, NATO, and the West. This is something we have said in the past and repeat today. Israel has a policy of supporting Ukraine via humanitarian aid, and the delivery of life-saving defensive equipment,” Gantz said in remarks provided by his office.

































































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“This being said, I would like to emphasize that Israel will not deliver weapon systems to Ukraine due to a variety of operational considerations. We will continue to support Ukraine within our limitations, as we have done in the past,” he said.
“We have sent a request to the Ukrainians to share information about their needs for air defense alerts. Once we gain this information, we will be able to assist in the development of a life-saving civilian early-warning system,” Gantz added.
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Israel’s warning system uses a mix of radar and electro-optic devices to detect rocket, missile, and drone launches, classify the size and the threat they represent, and pinpoint on a map the areas that are in danger.

Defense Minister Benny Gantz speaks to ambassadors from EU nations on October 19, 2022 (Ariel Hermoni/Defense Ministry)
Citizens receive warnings through sirens, alerts on their phones, and messages on TV and radio.
The system has been credited with saving hundreds of lives over the years during flare-ups of violence with terror groups in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon, which have launched thousands of projectiles at Israeli cities.
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In recent years the system’s accuracy has been upgraded so that it can limit its alerts to specific areas of large cities.

Screenshot of Red Alert, the Israeli app that warns locals of incoming missile attacks. (Courtesy)
Ukrainian cities in recent weeks have faced repeated attacks by Iranian-made loitering munitions, also known as suicide drones, and other missiles launched by Russia.
“We are following Iran’s involvement in the war in Ukraine. We see that Iran provides UAVs and in the near future may also provide additional advanced systems,” Gantz said.
Ukraine on Wednesday said its military had shot down more than 223 Iranian-made drones in a little more than a month.

A drone approaches for an attack in Kyiv on October 17, 2022, amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine. (Yasuyoshi CHIBA / AFP)
Since the early days of the invasion, senior Ukrainian officials have asked Israel to send its missile defense systems, especially the Iron Dome, in public addresses and in private conversations with decision-makers in Jerusalem.
But Jerusalem has so far avoided providing direct military aid to Kyiv — neither offensive arms nor advanced defensive technology — since Russian troops invaded Ukraine on February 24, in an attempt to avoid sparking a crisis with Moscow.
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Israel is one of the few countries that maintains relatively warm relations with both Ukraine, a fellow Western democracy, and Russia.
But Israel has found itself at odds with Russia as Jerusalem has increasingly supported Ukraine while seeking to maintain freedom of movement in Syria’s skies, which are largely controlled by Moscow.
In April, Gantz okayed for the first time sending Ukrainian emergency services 2,000 helmets and 500 flak jackets, after long refusing.

A man is seen on the ground after a blast following a drone attack in Kyiv on October 17, 2022, amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine. (Yasuyoshi CHIBA / AFP)
That move came following reports of mass killing of civilians, rape and other atrocities committed by Russian forces in the Kyiv suburb of Bucha, leading to a change of tone from Israeli politicians.
At the time, Foreign Minister Yair Lapid, who is now also prime minister, explicitly accused Russia of war crimes over the reports, in the strongest comments against Moscow by a top Israeli official.
Ties between Israel and Russia were further frayed following a claim by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov that Adolf Hitler had Jewish heritage, in an attempt to defend Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine as an attempt to “de-Nazify” a country whose president, Volodymyr Zelensky, is Jewish.
While Jerusalem somewhat shifted its tone to align more with Western powers, it has so far steadfastly declined to contribute to the Ukrainian military effort.
On Wednesday, Gantz said he plans to approve an additional defensive aid package to Ukraine.
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Hahahahhaaa.
I will repost this in a week okay?

Its hilarious to see the russian propaganda turn up the volumes (and as such their cheerleaders on this thread spamming their copy-paste) as soon The battlefield situation turns critical. We saw this uptick as well before kharkiv.
Russia can have the most battle hardened soldiers but if they can't supply or support them it meant nothing.
 
Notice how the M113 have a much sturdier armor than the BMP?


Cheap Chinese engines bought from Ali Baba by Iran are too loud!
Loud engine are bad actually. The whole point of drone is that they have to be silent.

The Harops or other kamikaze drones are scarier because you don't realize it until it's too late to react. It's embarrassing to see so many here glorifying what essentially is a flying lawnmower.

No country trying to put order for it should tell you the the reason why.
 
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