Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1577240963856363520

 

[jhungary]

Who would have thought 7 months after the start of the conflict the Russians would be on a forced retreat on many fronts..... The most worrying thing is that Kherson is actually the most fortified Russian front where Russia's best troops are located.

Well, not many Analyst (Both Western and Russian) believe Ukraine will take the city of Kherson by force, most of the military analyst worldwide are thinking of a isolation and encirclement operation on Kherson to starve the Russian in Kherson city of troop and supplies and then degrade their condition and force a surrender.

Notice that Ukraine has enough manpower and artillery to take Kherson if they want to, there are 10 Brigade in this fight from left (Oleksandrivka) to right (Dudchany), + 3 Artillery Regiment (I believe 2 of those are HIMARS, so you have around 12 HIMARS in the area) if they want to do a "Russian Takeover" they can bombard Kherson day and night and then waltz thru after 20 or 30 days bombardment.

But there are no sign they are doing that, and no sign of a general push toward Kherson, so I don't think they will, anyway, it's more economical that way. Ukraine already controls the high ground, all they need is for the Dudchanky force to flank ova Karkovka and then finish the encirclement.

Just a matter of time now until Khersons liberation. When the US conducted the war games with Ukraine on the Kherson and Kharkiv fronts, the Kherson front was much slower, but still liberation in the end.

Yeah, there are no way Kherson is a tenable position for Russia, it's on the wrong side of the Dnieper River and putting more men in the city won't solve the problem, in fact, it will just make it worse as you make it harder to supply. Kherson is going to fold, it's just a matter of when they will give up, but I do think Ukraine would need to take some momentum, maybe do more targetted strike inside the city. That would speed things up.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Seeing reports Ukraine are massing forces in Vasylivka to begin its offensive towards Melitopol

 

[jhungary]

Seeing reports Ukraine are massing forces in Vasylivka to begin its offensive towards Melitopol

Think they moved 2 National Guard Bigrade and a Special Force Battalion to the region.

I don't know if they were trying to cut into Melitopol, but you don't need 4 Brigade on that line as there were already 2 TDF brigade in the area.

On the other hand, news report National Guard Brigade and Security Police regiment had moved up from Kramatosk and Sloviansk now in Drobysheve and Lyman. Which mean the Regular Brigade had moved on.

 

[Viet]

Just a matter of time now until Khersons liberation. When the US conducted the war games with Ukraine on the Kherson and Kharkiv fronts, the Kherson front was much slower, but still liberation in the end.

25,000 Russians are trapped with no way out. They will suffer the same taste like their comrades at Lyman. They could be at their families in warm apartment. No they rather die in a worthless racist war.

 

[jhungary]

25,000 Russians are trapped with no way out. They will suffer the same taste like their comrades at Lyman. They could be at their families in warm apartment. No they rather die in a worthless racist war.

Probably more than 25,000 Russian now. Report suggested that Mobilised Troop were being deployed to Kherson, unless they also pull Regular Troop back, that number is going to swell.

 

[TNT]

Not that Jewish Sh*t again. Why is that that if something goes wrong it's always the Jew's fault?

Because they own most and are behind everything. Dont expect someone like u to see it lolz.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Seeing reports Ukraine are massing forces in Vasylivka to begin its offensive towards Melitopol

Ukraine wants to trap Russian soldiers and capture them as bargains to trade in negotiatons with Russia when this does come to talks I reckon.

Ukranian battlefield commanders are proving to be quick learners and better strategists on the battlefield compared to the Russians.

 

[TNT]

blah blah blah... l

When your system is corrupt to the core, this is the sort of misfired can occur. Wrong lists to mobilize. Stealing grain and going to great lenghts to cover it to sell it as Russian origin grain in Lebanon.

This reminds me when Iraqis back a few years ago had ISIS breathing down them and outside of Baghdad. Because Iraqi generals were corrupt, had phantom units that they were paying from US Dollars but pocketing the money.

Half of mobilised men in Russian region sent home, commissar fired, governor says

The military commissar of Russia's Khabarovsk region was removed from his post after half of the newly mobilised personnel were sent home as they did not meet the draft criteria, the region's governor said early on Monday.

www.reuters.com

Half of mobilised men in Russian region sent home, commissar fired - governor
(Reuters) - The military commissar of Russia’s Khabarovsk region was removed from his post after half of the newly mobilised personnel were sent home as they did not meet the draft criteria, the region’s governor said early on Monday.
Russia’s first mobilisation since World War Two, declared by President Vladimir Putin on Sept. 21, has led to widespread discontent among officials and citizens over the way the draft has been handled, including complaints about enlistment officers sending call-up papers to clearly ineligible men. [
“In 10 days, several thousand of our countrymen received summons and arrived at the military registration and enlistment offices,” Mikhail Degtyarev, the governor of the Khabarovsk region in Russia’s Far East, said in a video post on the Telegram messaging app.
“About half of them we returned home as they did not meet the selection criteria for entering the military service.”
Degtyarev said the removal of the commissar, Yuri Laiko, would not affect the mobilisation plan set by Putin.
The chaotic mobilisation of men to fight in Ukraine has also prompted thousands of fighting-age men to flee from the country to avoid a draft that was billed as enlisting those with military experience and specialities but has often appeared oblivious to service records, health, student status and even age.
Some 2,000 people have been arrested at anti-war protests in more than 30 towns and cities, and some of them promptly given call-up papers - something the Kremlin said was perfectly legal.
Reporting in Melbourne by Lidia Kelly; Editing by Robert Birsel On Monday, October 3, 2022, 7:10 AM, Taimur Khan <taimur_khan1@yahoo.com> wrote:

Pakistani generals are also really corrupt. Makes me wonder what will be the real situation of our army. There is a reason our generals are scared of war with india, would expose their corruption and incompetence.

 

[jhungary]

Ukraine wants to trap Russian soldiers and capture them as bargains to trade in negotiatons with Russia when this does come to talks I reckon.

Ukranian battlefield commanders are proving to be quick learners and better strategists on the battlefield compared to the Russians.

Actually, Ukrainian commander was not really that good if you compare to Western Commander like Colin Powell, or Ike or even Norman Schwarzkopf. In most case, their performance is actually only will get a passing grade if they are decision maker in Western Army.

Look at it this way, the Ukrainian succeed in the Kharkiv Route but failed to cut off the Russian supply and retreat line, that's a big blow to the operation because you are allowing many Russian troop to escape, and the same thing happened in Lyman, where the Ukrainian failed to block the escape tour toward Torske and instead enter the city from the East, quite a few Russian manage to escape (they numbered at less than 1000 Russian captured over 5000 there)

A Competent leader get the job done, the Ukrainian on ground leader had got the job done, however, a good leader will be able to read the situation and exploit the situation, that was not done in Ukrainian part. Which lead to the bulk of Russian force left their position intact and fight the other day. Ukrainian leadership is learning, and as time pass, they are going to get better.

On the other hand, Russian commander are......Well, there are just one word for it. It's SHIT.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1577259065549672449

Davydiv Brid is liberated!

 

[Vergennes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1577254932696047616

https://twitter.com/x/status/1577256807394725889

 

[ZeGerman]

Wow, russian lines collapsing on multiple fronts now….

Finally the kherson front is starting to crack for the russians. Hopefully they are dumb enough to pile in extra thousands of mobilised troops.
That will just add to the losses once kherson becomes unsupportable in winter.

Slava Ukraini!

 

[Paul2]

Seeing reports Ukraine are massing forces in Vasylivka to begin its offensive towards Melitopol

They did for more than a month from my observation, it's another blob of forces that nobody talked about... and for a good reason.

RUAF are very weak there, 58th army been there since the start, without any rotation, and they got depleted more by sending forces to Khesanh.

My calculation, they are just 1-1.5 division strong now due to initial losses from March, and depletion.

And we already know that RU motorized division is only 4000-5000 suitable warfighting troops. The rest are auxiliaries.

58th was supposed to be a more high readiness russian army, since they were stationed in southwest russia.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Russian lines have completely collapsed to the northeast of Kherson