aziqbal
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Never forget. The largest terrorist group who made the fatal decision in 1945 are the same people responsible for the regime change and Kiev and the agitators of the war in Ukraine. These are the people who are forcing Ukraine to fight to the last Ukrainian and bringing us closer to a war with much worse outcomes. The only people in history mad enough to do the unthinkable.
i believe the second you launch atacm it will be visible on radarIt actually does.
Storm shadow is air launched and there are only 1 platform that can carry it that we know, which is MIG-29 Some people said SU-25 can also carry it but I dont know
Anyway, ATACAM will give Ukraine multi dimensional capability. You know when a MIG-29 Takes off, that may or may not carry storm shadow, but if they do, there are only 1 attack profile. Now imagine 4 HIMARS launchers deployed in 4 different location within a 150km radius circle, you have 4 ways of entries just that. Now Ukraine have 20 HIMARS system. Most of all, you cant track HIMARS deployment unlike MIG-29 that can be picked up with radars. This is going to increase Ukrainian stand off attack capability exponentially....
Well given if the US transfer enough ATACMS
Well, I believe the second you launch any artillery strike your counter Battery radar can pick up that strikei believe the second you launch atacm it will be visible on radar
i believe Attack with ATACAM willbe different from usual attacks by ukraine artillery as the missile fly higher also it go deeper and i believe Russia can use its s-400 more effectively against it than HIMARS as the launch ewill be a lot less saturated (6x MLRS vs 1x ATACAM)Well, I believe the second you launch any artillery strike your counter Battery radar can pick up that strike
The problem is, what's that got to do with what I said?
First, it split your defence, you need to position a 4 direction approach instead of 2 (way in and way out for airstrike)
Secondly, it take around 100 seconds to reach your target, there are pretty much nothing you can do if you just know after the missile launched.
perfect now we celebrate attack on journalists
Again you can believe what you want to believe, that does not change the fact that using ATACAM gave Ukranian multiple angle to strike target which in turn make Russia harder to defend as I said above.i believe Attack with ATACAM willbe different from usual attacks by ukraine artillery as the missile fly higher also it go deeper and i believe Russia can use its s-400 more effectively against it than HIMARS as the launch ewill be a lot less saturated (6x MLRS vs 1x ATACAM)
still believe storm shadow is more effective
Japan is one of the countries that I have come to appreciate and Shinzo Abe was a good leader. But Imperial Japan was a different beast that was invading and occupying other countries and conducting experiments on occupied subjects. Imperial Japan would have done the same to the subcontinent if US-led forces had not stopped Imperial Japan in its tracks. The decision to use an atomic bomb was not an easy one but US wanted to end the war on a quicker note instead of facing a prolonged armed insurgency in the Japanese mainland. The "largest terrorist group" saved the subcontinent in this case.
Russian forces attempted regime change in Ukraine or NATO? You need to take a break from this thread because you might be consuming contents that seem to affect your worldview and frame of mind, and you need to focus on where you live. Your country is a part of the "largest terrorist group." Maybe move to Russia if this is the case.
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General message to members commenting on this thread:
Criticism is one thing but it should be on logical grounds. You are anti-war, no problem. But loosing touch with global realities and starting to hate an entire group of people? You need to check Forum Rules in this case.
with a certain different , they don't see storm shadow is coming , they see the atacamAgain you can believe what you want to believe, that does not change the fact that using ATACAM gave Ukranian multiple angle to strike target which in turn make Russia harder to defend as I said above.
When will the insanity end? Mission nearly accomplished fighting to the last Ukrainian. Since that's failed...
"BRING IN THE POLISH, BRING IN THE POLISH!!!"
SEND THE POLISH! SEND THE POLISH! SEND THE POLISH!
They will see BOTH coming as soon as it launch whether or not it's ATACMS leaving the HIMARS or Storm Shadow leaving the MIG.with a certain different , they don't see storm shadow is coming , they see the atacam
now if you want to deny that that's something else