Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[MH.Yang]

I hope you have enough foods for years in your best bunkers. I don’t know if it’s worth to live in nuclear desert. In Swiss almost every house has a bunker.

Yes, I know Westerners like to build bunkers for their families.

Chinese people are different. Chinese people usually like big projects. So we like to build bunkers for the whole city.

At present, the asylum projects in all cities in China can accommodate 400million people.


BTW: 50% of the global grain reserves are in China.

China hoards over half the world's grain, pushing up global prices

Testy ties with U.S. and Australia could be prodding China to boost food reserves

asia.nikkei.com

In addition, China's asylum project can accommodate not only residents, but also factories. ZCC.CT has some workshops and warehouses underground. The underground factory connects the main refuge project of the city through an underground railway channel.

 

[ZeGerman]

Yet the Taliban gave a you a beating of your life. You can mock the Taliban all you like. They defeated you in broad daylight.

Ehmm utter bullshit.

Taliban did not win 1 standoff battle against Nato. Let alone broad daylight.
Even with a few thousand troops left things were stable.

Hiding in caves and between civilians. Guerilla attacks. And a lot of patience. Thats was their victory

 

[CrazyZ]

War is going pretty much as I expected. Russia is winning gradually......but NATO will make it pay a pound of flesh for any gains. Russia withstood economic sanctions. Europe and USA are headed for recession. Ukraine is ruined.

 

[ZeGerman]

Ehmm utter bullshit.

Taliban did not win 1 standoff battle against Nato. Let alone broad daylight.
Even with a few thousand troops left things were stable.

Hiding in caves and between civilians. Guerilla attacks. And a lot of patience. Thats was their victory

And before you come with your baseless dribble again.


Statistics do not lie

Soldiers killed in action in Afghanistan 2001-2021 | Statista

The number of soldiers killed in Afghanistan in 2021 amounted to 13 from the Western coalition, as of October 2021.

www.statista.com

We were in situation where coalition was having 25 fatalities a year….what a “humiliation”…what a “defeat”…
Instead We were simply tired of spending billions and literally holding hands of ANA.

We left them to finally fight for themselves .
After 20 years training and with a bigger army then ukraine which had only 8 years training.
Yet they ran for the hills against a few thousand taliban while ukraine is holding its own against 200.000 russians.

The afghans just had no motive to fight for anything we though was worth fighting for.
Culture clash. We could have stayed another 20 years and the end result would have been the same.

 

[CrazyZ]

And before you come with your baseless dribble again.


Statistics do not lie

Soldiers killed in action in Afghanistan 2001-2021 | Statista

The number of soldiers killed in Afghanistan in 2021 amounted to 13 from the Western coalition, as of October 2021.

www.statista.com

We were in situation where coalition was having 25 fatalities a year….what a “humiliation”…what a “defeat”…
Instead We were simply tired of spending billions and literally holding hands of ANA.

We left them to finally fight for themselves .
After 20 years training and with a bigger army then ukraine which had only 8 years training.
Yet they ran for the hills against a few thousand taliban while ukraine is holding its own against 200.000 russians.

The afghans just had no motive to fight for anything we though was worth fighting for.
Culture clash. We could have stayed another 20 years and the end result would have been the same.

You really can not compare Ukraine war to Afghanistan war. But I will say that the Talibans 10 day rout of the ANA was a huge defeat for USA, NATO and Quad. No way to sugar coat it. The Afghan communist forces fought for years with little help from Moscow after the USSR withdrew. ANA collapsed in 2 weeks......how do you think this was percieved in Moscow and other parts of the world?

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547965132000530434

First M270 has arrived to Ukraine

 

[Qutb-ud-din-Aibak]

Ehmm utter bullshit.

Taliban did not win 1 standoff battle against Nato. Let alone broad daylight.
Even with a few thousand troops left things were stable.

Hiding in caves and between civilians. Guerilla attacks. And a lot of patience. Thats was their victory

What are you talking about Taliban controlled 25% of Afghanistan while NATO was there. They held many pockets.

Taliban just ran NATO for dry and exhausted them plus the terrain was not ideal for the US. IEA was ready for a 100-year campaign which NATO doesn't want any of it otherwise they can go back for a straight out 100-year war.. It almost lead to US economy crisis and if continued could lead to US economy collapse. The Afghans arms are cheap and logisics it doesn't cost them much unlike the US that uses 50-bilion a year..

IEA greatest asset is patience and consistency.. These bastards can go 100-years easy

 

[Valar.]

Ehmm utter bullshit.

Taliban did not win 1 standoff battle against Nato. Let alone broad daylight.
Even with a few thousand troops left things were stable.

Hiding in caves and between civilians. Guerilla attacks. And a lot of patience. Thats was their victory

You need to learn the difference between Battle and War.

Nato won battle, infact battles, every single one of them probably.

But Taliban won the war.

Nato came to throw Taliban out of power.

But 2 decades later, Nato left Afghanistan with Taliban in power again.

Nato lose the war even after winning all the battles.

Taliban won the war even after losing all the battles.

The end.

 

[F-22Raptor]

You need to learn the difference between Battle and War.

Nato won battle, infact battles, every single one of them probably.

But Taliban won the war.

Nato came to throw Taliban out of power.

But 2 decades later, Nato left Afghanistan with Taliban in power again.

Nato lose the war even after winning all the battles.

Taliban won the war even after losing all the battles.

The end.

The US could have stayed ad infinitum in Afghanistan. It was the Afghan Army that failed, not the US. We weren't going to hold their hands forever. Eventually, Afghans had to take responsibility for their own country. They failed.

 

[zartosht]

Seriously ?

M777 is considered one of the best towed artillery , one of the reasons that it weighs almost half than other towed armillary of the same caliber.


" they have to constantly take them back to poland for shrapnel repairs as they are extremely prone to counter-battery fire "

Are you going to stand behind this statement ? You want to argue that the m777 is more " prone " to counter-battery fire " than other models ? What is that ?

If anything , the m777 is more light weight , and can be more easily be moved after fire . compared to other towed armillary.

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There are 6 components to it according to a ukrainian general. And they are extremely fragile, maintenance intensive.

It might work for western countries who fight defensless afghans. And have complete air dominance and no worry of counter battery fire.

A real war is exposing western weapons weaknesses, and fanboys are having a heart attack.

Well, you are trying to argue military sense to people who say "Ukraine can't retake land because they have light infantry only"

There are no sense to talk about when their reference point is a computer game.......

General jhungary. I know a phd colonel who heads the research department of the austrian army is waaaaaaaaaay below your internet credentials.

But try to humour him, as he is trying, and not everyone can be as brilliant as you

 

[TheNoob]

The US could have stayed ad infinitum in Afghanistan. It was the Afghan Army that failed, not the US. We weren't going to hold their hands forever. Eventually, Afghans had to take responsibility for their own country. They failed.

Destroy a country, make a puppet system, and once that puppet system fails, you blame it on the people.
I guess all that hash really do be getting to your head.

 

[Dalit]

Ehmm utter bullshit.

Taliban did not win 1 standoff battle against Nato. Let alone broad daylight.
Even with a few thousand troops left things were stable.

Hiding in caves and between civilians. Guerilla attacks. And a lot of patience. Thats was their victory

It doesn't matter whether they beat you by hiding or sitting in caves. They beat you and you had to run. The entire world witnessed it.

 

[MH.Yang]

The US could have stayed ad infinitum in Afghanistan. It was the Afghan Army that failed, not the US. We weren't going to hold their hands forever. Eventually, Afghans had to take responsibility for their own country. They failed.

The US could have stayed ad infinitum in Vietnam. It was the Vietnam Army that failed, not the US. We weren't going to hold their hands forever. Eventually, Vietnam had to take responsibility for their own country. They failed.

 

[Valar.]

The US could have stayed ad infinitum in Afghanistan. It was the Afghan Army that failed, not the US. We weren't going to hold their hands forever. Eventually, Afghans had to take responsibility for their own country. They failed.

If Nato had left by putting Afghan civilian/puppet govt in power backed by Afghan Army and Taliban had defeated them a year or two later then and only then you could have said that hey we didn't lose but Afghan Army lose. But hey, that didn't happen. Taliban took control when Nato was still physically present in Afghanistan. If anything, Taliban actually helped you evacuate Afghanistan.

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Anyway, let's get back to topic which is Ukraine/Russia war.

 

[Dalit]

Russia has already lost strategically. They are in a much worse position today than back in February. Massive military losses, economic decline, NATO expansion. All at minimal cost to the US.

And what Russian progress? They control less territory now than in April


The US achieved its main goal of destroying Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. It overthrew the Taliban in a month and controlled the country for 20 years. We left on our own accord, because we refused to hold the hands of the Afghans anymore. The US could have stayed ad infinitum.

Is that why you sign into PDF every single day and spend hours convincing others how much the US/NATO has won?

You didn't achieve a fvcking thing. Your fat *** generals cried like babies when the Taliban took over US equipment in broad daylight and your soldiers were sitting in planes ready to exit Afghanistan. LOL You are so pathetic that you had to beg a country called Pakistan to protect your Afghan interpreters. The same country the US/NATO blamed for 20 years for losses in Afghanistan. You can lie all day long, but people have eyes, ears and memories.

Now let's get back to Russia. Russia is nailing you in Ukraine every minute of the day. All you can do is send some insignificant weapons to Ukraine. You won't send your soldiers to Ukraine because you know the outcome. We know how your faces look right now. Swollen and defeated you sit behind that keyboard typing away demoralised.