Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[jhungary]

When the casualty rate of 10:1 is favoring the Russians, you want to tell me the Ukrainians are fighting "in a suicidal and fanatical way"? The Russians are pursuing a war of attrition, and they find a way to kill as many well-trained Ukrainian soldiers as they can while they minimize their casualties. This artillery war provided the Russians a way to keep the hopes of the Ukrainian soldier high, so they can mindlessly send their best trained forces to the meat grinder in Bakhmut and Soledar. And the adaptability of the Russian military leaders to every situation that the West presented in this war is something that will be written in the history books.

You have to be really stupid to think casualty rate is 10 to 1 favor the Russian.......

It would be nearly impossible for Russia to keep it 1 to 1 as an invading army, you are talking about 1 Russian soldier loss to 10 Ukrainian. Tradition rate is 3 to 1 favor the defender, and without Air and Artillery superiority that number is dropped to 7 to 1, with either one the number is 4 to 1. Seeing that Russia, not Ukraine, is the party that asked for 300,000 mobilised soldier and may be more since the war begin, we can see the rate is probably around 2 to 3 to 1, ie 1 Ukrainian loss toward 2 or 3 Russian.

But hey, you can go believe in Russian super soldier myth that 1 Russian can take on 10 Ukrainian. Is that the reason why this war still going on after 11 months??

 

[zhxy]

Some dude here think M1 Abrams will be destroyed in Ukraine just like it did in Iraq.

Yes, sure, why not? Nothing used in war is non-destructible. Everything is going to be used up or destroyed one way or another, if you think something being used in war can never be destroyed then you are somewhat delusional.

The question is not whether any M1 Abrams will be destroyed or how many Leopard 2 will be destroyed in war or Challenger in that matter. The question is how many inch of land that tank help Ukraine regain before it was destroyed, how many Russian tank and infantry it killed before that tank was destroyed and how many crew it will save had they were in the old Russian tank that was destroyed in thousands on both side.

I would very much love to see a destroyed M1 in Ukraine, thinking how many Russian tank it must have taken on by it. And then How many MORE that will come from the US.

I like the idea of mass-producing tanks like the Sherman or something like that, and integrating modern technologies to improve its survivability.

With the amount of 20 billion USD. They can craft: 40-50 000 Sherman units (equipped with explosive reactive armor), and spam it on the battlefield.

Of course, these tanks have outdated optics, electronics... And its survivability is worse than modern tanks such as T-90, T-72, Leopard, Abham... but its advantages are low cost and easy production.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618217167388053504

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618294414161645570

 

[jhungary]

I like the idea of mass-producing tanks like the Sherman or something like that, and integrating modern technologies to improve its survivability.

With the amount of 20 billion USD. They can craft: 40-50 000 Sherman units (equipped with explosive reactive armor), and spam it on the battlefield.

Of course, these tanks have outdated optics, electronics... And its survivability is worse than modern tanks such as T-90, T-72, Leopard, Abham... but its advantages are low cost and easy production.

The idea is not whether Abrams or Western tank is a wonder weapon, because no such thing as a wonder weapon. At the end of the day, it's always about the number and availability, Tiger II were generally considered to be superior tank than any Allied Tank during WW2. The problem why Sherman win the days is because it was basically used by everyone. And by focusing on producing Sherman, they have kept a steady flow of equipment and parts that keep coming. In the end, that dilute the number of Tiger II in the field, which is why the Allied, not Germany, won the tank war in WW2.

The same principal applies here, if Ukraine keep using the old Russian tank, they would have to focus on try to source parts and instead of getting the number saturated, because it would have to come from Russia, sure, Russia have "Donated" a lot of Equipment to Ukraine since the war begin, but it wouldn't be match in the long term. Loss is inevitable, how to replace and repair those loss and the tactical logistic base to facilitate those loss is the key, with Western Tank, you are basically entered a "Shared" responsibility, the West no longer only have to source parts for old soviet tank, they can use existing facilities to supply both tanks and parts and in some degree, ammunition to Ukraine, and that cannot be interrupted, as long as the West continued to use those tank.

The issue here will then become, when a Abrams is destroyed, the US can send spare almost immediately or they can send parts almost immediately to fix that, which is something they cannot do when Ukraine still using T-72. Essentially, Ukraine can loss all those 30 Abrams US send them, just like HIMARS and everything US send over, the US would simply say "here is another 30, enjoy" but you can't do that if Ukraine is still using Russian tanks

On the other hand, Western Tank is in fact superior than anything Russia has been using in this war is simply a plus.

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618277915460014080

The Ukrainians will continue to liberate its territory.

 

[jhungary]

You're really the dumbest in this forum. The 10:1 ratio comes from because of the enormous artillery that the Russians are firing in a given day. You act as if you've been a military officer. I seriously doubt it. A career military officer would've paid attention to the number of cannons that the Russians are fielding in Bakhmut vs the number of artillery pieces available to the Ukrainians.

Let us not forget the number of reputable sources who raised the alarm to the high casualty rate that the Ukrainians are suffering in Bakhmut. It took the US government to dispatch the CIA director to Zelensky and inform him the amount of casualty rate that the Ukrainians are suffering in Bakhmut is unbearable and he needs to withdraw troops from there.

So to the failed and dishonorably discharged former soldier who had the rank of a private, Russians are not super soldiers. They just understand much more than you, and the panic in the reaction of the Western leaders is the clear proof.

lol, you believe in Russia killing 10 Ukrainian with 1 single loss and I am the dumbest here? Okay.

Again, is that why Russia asked (ALREADY) for 300,000 recruits because they are killing Ukrainian 10 to 1 basically left, right and center and wanted more men to have some fun??

Even a special ed kids would know Russia is having trouble fighting this war, and you believe in 10 to 1 bullshit.

You really are something else aren't you??

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

lol, you believe in Russia killing 10 Ukrainian with 1 single loss and I am the dumbest here? Okay.

Again, is that why Russia asked (ALREADY) for 300,000 recruits because they are killing Ukrainian 10 to 1 basically left, right and center and wanted more men to have some fun??

Even a special ed kids would know Russia is having trouble fighting this war, and you believe in 10 to 1 bullshit.

You really are something else aren't you??

Russia only went thru 1 mobilization, Einstein. Ukraine went through the 12th mobilization to the point where they're conscripting people nowadays. Ah, you didn't take into account, right?

But I like the way you and other propagandists can no longer make the "muh HIMARS". That line has been shut down. You've escalated it to "muh Leapords II abd M1 Abrahams". The West is losing it and you can see the panic in Western leaders' reaction.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618262109003055104

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Zelensky turns 45 years today.

 

[jhungary]

Russia only went thru 1 mobilization, Einstein. Ukraine went through the 12th mobilization to the point where they're conscripting people nowadays. Ah, you didn't take into account, right?

But I like the way you and other propagandists can no longer make the "muh HIMARS". That line has been shut down. You've escalated it to "muh Leapords II abd M1 Abrahams". The West is losing it and you can see the panic in Western leaders' reaction.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618262109003055104

lol, 12th round of mobilisation, why not the 100th round mobilisation?? Ukraine just allowed male between 18-60 to leave the country. Of course, that was because there are no more men in Ukraine to fight because they are died or wounded, right? Then that did beg a question, who are fighting the Russian right now??

Because Russia is killing 10 to 1, then the Ukrainian would have 1 million killed and 3 million injured. Considering Russian itself losss around 100,000. Sure I would believe that figure, now tell me, why Russia only managed to take Optyne and Soledar with 1 million Ukrainian killed and with 300,000 more Russian fighting??

Even US didn't have 10 to 1 killed ratio to Iraqi, yet they completely destroyed the Iraqi in 38 days campaign, that's ~1/10 of the time the Russian took in this war.

Dude, did you even check with reality before you speak? if Russian is killing Ukrainian 10 to 1, virtually left and right and center. Why they virtually make no progress in Ukraine at all in the last 6 months? In fact, they are losing ground. But of course, it was the mighty HIMARS, wait, didn't you had been shutting down the HIMARS and destroyed 200% of whatever HIMARS we sent to Ukraine in the first place? How about how those terror campaign going for you? It's 28 days until the Russian start invading 1 years ago and 34 days til winter officially ends in March 1, have Ukraine surrendered because they are out of running water and electricity yet and score of Ukrainian died in the cold yet??

LOL

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1618294012657696770

31 is too small. US should send at least 500 Abraham tanks.

 

[Ich]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618299349397811203

Abrams will arrive by the end of the year

https://twitter.com/x/status/1618273669868064775

Yes, as you and i wrote before. Whereas me think that no Abrams will ever arrive cause either we turned into dust tiil then or war is over cause Russia won.