Russia - Su-35BM Jets

[ptldM3]

There is also talk that the upgrades will have the SU35 engines , i think it was either moscow or you, who had mentioned this in the MKI new orders discussion thread.
Sounds silly? lol

It had to have been Moscow btw when does India receive the new fighters?

 

[thebrownguy]

i will have to check the thread, no dates given on soucrces i checked online just that its a $ 3 billion plus contract.

 

[Kompromat]

I do not understand why some stupids think that SU-35 BM is "Almost same" as SU-27 or even SU-30.

Get a brain guys this is an extensively upgraded Flanker which is one of its own kind in Ground attack role.

And it is a 4.5++ Generation which makes it a leap ahead of its predecessors .

You cannot compare F-16A with F-16 E/F.

 

[thebrownguy]

I do not understand why some stupids think that SU-35 BM is "Almost same" as SU-27 or even SU-30.

Get a brain guys this is an extensively upgraded Flanker which is one of its own kind in Ground attack role.

And it is a 4.5++ Generation which makes it a leap ahead of its predecessors .

You cannot compare F-16A with F-16 E/F.

No one does, if you are hinting at me, i just wanted to find out details regarding our upgrades.

 

[Kompromat]

No one does, if you are hinting at me, i just wanted to find out details regarding our upgrades.

I have not called any names , its a general statement applies on many.

 

[nightrider_saulat]

airframe wise they are very similar. MKI has canards. But tech wise, there is a lot of difference.

Su27 is old now. Su30 is good. MKI adds western avionics. So its better. Su35 has new hardware onboard. Its on par with MKI, adding western avionics would make Su35 the best.

Excellent analysis, geez! Those incompetent Ruskies should have consulted the present day Einstein before adding canards to their Su-33s or Su-30MKI! And they sold us a Su-27 with canards with no regards to Bernoulli's theories, those lying sniveling Ruskies!!

Would you shed some Light on why do you think so ?

i guess he is saying that cause of similar airframes!!
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i was just talking from the perspectives of it's airframe and design​

 

[lhuang]

I personally think India should have bought 42 BM's as they are the best ones around for Ground attack .

MKI is a multirole heavy weight jet good for Air to Air sorties but BM would have added another punch in IAF Inventory .

UAE is looking to buy BM's and Guess who would be flying them

Thanks.

I've never heard of the UAE buying Su-35s? Link please.

And even if they do, what makes you think Pakistanis will be flying them? And even if they do, what does that do for Pakistan? American pilots have flown in the Su-30MKI I think, does this mean that the Americans now officially know everything to know about the Su-30?

 

[thebrownguy]

I've never heard of the UAE buying Su-35s? Link please.

And even if they do, what makes you think Pakistanis will be flying them? And even if they do, what does that do for Pakistan? American pilots have flown in the Su-30MKI I think, does this mean that the Americans now officially know everything to know about the Su-30?

He is right about the PAF pilots operating UAEAF aircrafts. I am trying to find links abt the news BMs, no luck so far.

 

[jagjitnatt]

I do not understand why some stupids think that SU-35 BM is "Almost same" as SU-27 or even SU-30.

Get a brain guys this is an extensively upgraded Flanker which is one of its own kind in Ground attack role.

And it is a 4.5++ Generation which makes it a leap ahead of its predecessors .

You cannot compare F-16A with F-16 E/F.

Agree with you. They are very different. But this a multirole fighter and can perform A2A, A2G roles, sure the Su27 couldn't perform adequate a2g role but Su30MKI is also a multirole fighter.

 

[Luftwaffe]

for india engines replacements is highly unlikely but avionics much possibility but not so soon it may take 3-4 years before india opts for other avionics package of su-35 from russia as a compensation to russians.(losing out in mrca as F-18 is a done deal)

 

[Frankenstein]

^^^^yup same thing just modified abit

 

[nightrider_saulat]

MAYBE SU-34 AND SU-35BM CAN BE THE BEST AIR TO GROUND STRIKE AIR CRAFT IN RUSSIAN BUT THEY STILL LACK FAR BEHIND F-15E STRIKE EAGLE IN AIR-GROUND ROLE

 

[ptldM3]

MAYBE SU-34 AND SU-35BM CAN BE THE BEST AIR TO GROUND STRIKE AIR CRAFT IN RUSSIAN BUT THEY STILL LACK FAR BEHIND F-15E STRIKE EAGLE IN AIR-GROUND ROLE

Maby if you knew what you were talking about i would take you seriously but the SU-35 is NOT a "ground strike craft" and please explain how the SU-34 is "far behind"? Last time i checked the SU-34 carries over 17,000 lbs of precision ordance and has a full glass cockpit meant to accommodate two pilots so one is primarily incharge with weapons systems while the other performance flight duties.