Russia strongly backs Indian entry to Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG)

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

the joke would be on china when this joke becomes reality.

now you are laughing to cover your fear and in future you would laughing to cover your anger and frustration.

This is even a better joke sure US can move all their factories to India, and I'm wondering why they don't do it now since Americans consider China as foe and India as friend....there must be a rational explanation to this.

 

[Indian wonk]

And we are ahead of them in that.

Our civilian nuclear tech is better than all countries not including US,Russia and France.
I'm not exaggerating I can fill 100 pages in a separate thread just of India's civilian program .
We do have our inefficiencies .

But people should remember India was the 1st country in Asia to start a nuclear program , then Japan then China.
And funny thing we are not part of NSG vetoed by two bit countries and China

India
Japan
China

 

[StraightShooter]

This is even a better joke sure US can move all their factories to India, and I'm wondering why they don't do it now since Americans consider China as foe and India as friend....there must be a rational explanation to this.

the debate and delay is only on deciding where to move the factories to. some cases they would be moved back to usa while in other cases they would be moved to india and other asian nations either way they would be moved out of china.

 

[Indian wonk]

Can China make this

How many countries in NSG can make this and they dare oppose us.

Only three countries are better than India
US (Which holds nearly all the patents in nuclear field )
Russia
France

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Can China make this

How many countries in NSG can make this and they dare oppose us.

Only three countries are better than India
US (Which holds nearly all the patents in nuclear field )
Russia
France

what is that?

 

[T-123456]

Industrial scale Reprocessing technologies
AVLIS ( Atomic vapor laser isotope seperation )
Fast breeder reactor
Fast breeder reactor reprocessing fuel cell technology
Fast breeder reactor fuel fabrication
Large scale Heavy water reactors
HEU based submarine reactor

These are the top of my head bro

Prove it China has mastered it ???

But if you already mastered all these technologies,why the need for NSG membership?
I ask again,what does this membership bring to a country that has already mastered all of these technologies?
Btw,how is the progress on Thorium reactors?

 

[Indian wonk]

what is that?

Asia's first FAST BREEDER REACTOR though Japanese also are building one . 45 years of hard R & D brother .

US once forced to keep this under safeguards but read them the riot act and they backed off.

It by product is the best quality Weapons grade Plutonium produced anywhere in the world. We are building 6 of it.

France built one of these and became the 3 rd biggest nuclear weapons holder in the world we are making 6 of them but we don't have any bad intentions with it.
Pakistan regularly complains about it .

 

[gslv mk3]

But if you already mastered all these technologies,why the need for NSG membership?

Uranium (for the time being), Large LWRs

Btw,how is the progress on Thorium reactors?

First 300 MWe Thorium-based mixed oxide fuelled Advanced Heavy Water Reactor (AHWR) is approved for cconstructionn in Tarapur, Maharastra

 

[Indian wonk]

But if you already mastered all these technologies,why the need for NSG membership?
I ask again,what does this membership bring to a country that has already mastered all of these technologies?

No we haven't mastered all this technology Israel is best in AVLIS program in Asia . We are better than China in some inferior than China in others.
The point is we want to sell our reactors and reprocessing and other technologies to others but we cannot do so without being a part of NSG.
We want to get legitimacy of our Nuclear weapons program.
We want to sit at the high table

Most important no one will tell you
We want to be a permanent member of UN security council . We discussed it with US.
US said first become member in these 4 groups

NSG
MTCR (We became member recently)
Wassenar arrangement
Australia group

US said they will vouch for us in all these groups

 

[T-123456]

Uranium (for the time being), Large LWRs

You cant buy uranium without membership of the NSG?
You already produce LWRs.

 

[Indian wonk]

Even though we are the first country in Asia to start a nuclear program and probably have among the most advanced civilian nuclear technology in Asia yet we are not a member of NSG. Sad

 

[gslv mk3]

You already produce LWRs.

No, we are good at PHWRs. Our first 900 MWe PWR is underway, engineering phase that is. That is why we are looking at LWRs from Russia, US & France.

 

[T-123456]

No we haven't mastered all this technology Israel is best in AVLIS program in Asia . We are better than China in some inferior than China in others.
The point is we want to sell our reactors and reprocessing and other technologies to others but we cannot do so without being a part of NSG.
We want to get legitimacy of our Nuclear weapons program.
We want to sit at the high table

Most important no one will tell you
We want to be a permanent member of UN security council . We discussed it with US.
US said first become member in these 4 groups

NSG
MTCR (We became member recently)
Wassenar arrangement
Australia group

US said they will vouch for us in all these groups

Wassenaar and Australia wont be a problem for you and you are already in the MTCR.
What i dont understand is that how can the US vouch for you in the UNSC and the NSG when there is a veto right in both of these groups?
And i dont see it changing any time soon.

 

[Indian wonk]

Wassenaar and Australia wont be a problem for you and you are already in the MTCR.
What i dont understand is that how can the US vouch for you in the UNSC and the NSG when there is a veto right in both of these groups?
And i dont see it changing any time soon.

Its a evolving process they would want to enlarge UN security council in next 10 years . Other wise they might be embarassed

India Brazil Germany and Japan deserve to be there . Indian economy will be bigger than UK + France combined in 2025 , India will be militarily bigger and stronger than Uk+France combined . They would want to accomodate India though China will cause trouble.

 

[T-123456]

Its a evolving process they would want to enlarge UN security council in next 10 years . Other wise they might be embarassed

India Brazil Germany and Japan deserve to be there . Indian economy will be bigger than UK + France combined in 2025 , India will be militarily bigger and stronger than Uk+France combined . They would want to accomodate India though China will cause trouble.

Enlarge to what exactly,how many members and who will represent the 1,6 billion Muslims cause i didnt see you mention any Muslim country?
Indonesia will also be bigger then UK+France combined.