Russia strongly backs Indian entry to Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG)

[gslv mk3]

Indonesia will also be bigger then UK+France combined.

Economically ?

 

[Bloom 17]

Stoping india isnt exactly what china wants or its not what they intend to do from day one. Its selling nuclear reactors to Pakistan.

Im 2005 when china joined nsg it put a condition to waiver all existing deals. That is sell 8 reactors to Pakistan that was signed around 2003. The fact is since 2005 china could only build 8 nuclear reactors in Pakistan outside nsg and for further orders Pakistan has to enter nsg or at least get a waiver.
In the present scenario china is at least trying to get a waiver sole designed that only china can sell its reactors to Pakistan in a one time deal something like the 8 reactors deal done earlier to which no other member is ready to approve because of its record. China has to eventually bend in a year or two because it can be the only country at odds. Its trying very hard for small countries to oppose but id running out options. China in future cant build reactors for Pakistan any further because it voilates nsg and they themselves dont have a reactor design operational yet. Coming to India it already has its own reactors and needs uranium. The nsg members see a huge market for their reserves. And india can reduce their cost of manufacturing reactors greatly if pitched in. More importantly European countries( which are a majority in nsg) are moving away from nuclear power to more renewable options because of public pressure but its not proving them economical.
India has 23% of worlds thorium and is the only country that has come close to building a prototype reactor that will go critical in 2022-2023. Thorium reactor is way safer than any nuclear reactor and cant be used to make weapons. That makes it exportable to all nations. India wont agree to work with individual countries on jvs on Thorium reactors. Getting india onto nsg allows india to share its tech with other countries. Write now nsg members are actually regreting for creating nsg in response to Indias weapons program in the first place.

India will definitely get into nsg if not this year then the next. China is just trying to take advantage which is failing badly. And considering this is Pakistan defence forum where does Pakistan fit into this equation?? Hamare pass atum bumb hai. We'll build more if u don't give us nsg. Like something they aren't doing already

 

[T-123456]

Economically ?

Yes,in the future it will be the nr 1 Muslim country,nr 5 in the world.
1 China
2 USA
3 India
4 Japan
5 Indonesia
You can take a look at all the rankings for the next 10 to 20 years.

 

[Bloom 17]

Yes,in the future it will be the nr 1 Muslim country,nr 5 in the world.
1 China
2 USA
3 India
4 Japan
5 Indonesia
You can take a look at all the rankings for the next 10 to 20 years.

No offence but from 2030 it really wont matter if a countries are ranked 5th to 15th. More than 75% of worlds nominal gdp would be by top 4 economies and eu. And by 2040 the 4th ranked country would be irrelevant. The rest or the world would just have to share remaining 25%. That is around 160 countries. So what economic backing we are seeing now for lets say a country in 5th or 6th place wont have anything similar on next 15yrs

 

[T-123456]

No offence but from 2030 it really wont matter if a countries are ranked 5th to 15th. More than 75% of worlds nominal gdp would be by top 4 economies and eu. And by 2040 the 4th ranked country would be irrelevant. The rest or the world would just have to share remaining 25%. That is around 160 countries. So what economic backing we are seeing now for lets say a country in 5th or 6th place wont have anything similar on next 15yrs

It will matter when we are talking about the UNSC permanent seats.
Read the posts before,then you''ll understand why the ranking matters.

 

[wiseone2]

Enlarge to what exactly,how many members and who will represent the 1,6 billion Muslims cause i didnt see you mention any Muslim country?
Indonesia will also be bigger then UK+France combined.

It is hard for one Muslim state to represent all the 1.6 billion Muslims

 

[T-123456]

It is hard for one Muslim state to represent all the 1.6 billion Muslims

We just have to find a way to do it.

 

[wiseone2]

Its a evolving process they would want to enlarge UN security council in next 10 years . Other wise they might be embarassed

India Brazil Germany and Japan deserve to be there . Indian economy will be bigger than UK + France combined in 2025 , India will be militarily bigger and stronger than Uk+France combined . They would want to accomodate India though China will cause trouble.

UN Security Council will not change its composition for a very long time

We just have to find a way to do it.

It is not going to happen ...

 

[T-123456]

It is not going to happen ...

Ok chief,if you say so.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Enlarge to what exactly,how many members and who will represent the 1,6 billion Muslims cause i didnt see you mention any Muslim country?
Indonesia will also be bigger then UK+France combined.

there will be no religious representation in UN. It will be based on population.

 

[Bloom 17]

It will matter when we are talking about the UNSC permanent seats.
Read the posts before,then you''ll understand why the ranking matters.

Oh sorry I didn't read the prior conversation.

UN Security Council will not change its composition for a very long time

 

[T-123456]

there will be no religious representation in UN. It will be based on population.

Then the UK and France will lose their seats?
Not on economic and military power?

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Then the UK and France will lose their seats?

yes they should lose their seats. the EU as a block can get one.

 

[T-123456]

yes they should lose their seats. the EU as a block can get one.

And where are these new regulations written/decided for the UNSC?

 

[Guynextdoor2]

And where are these new regulations written/decided for the UNSC?

when has the UN ever given representation basis religion? India is working very hard to boot UK out of P5, I can assure you that. And with Brexit, France will become the de-facto voice of Europe.