Russia ready to sell MI-35 helicopters to Pakistan: Alexey Y. Dedov

[Bratva]

Which is why the MI-35 has long range standoff capabilities.

Any planes underway to develop/equip 2.75 mm guided rockets to Mi series ?

 

[Kamil_baku]

Russian missile shooting down a Russian heli, the irony



if you are going in like a rambo then yeah the heli with the most armor is your chopper

Rambo III - Tank Buster - Video

This happened in Azerbaijan, against Armenian Helicopter
Basically, in the video, soldiers scream on commander to shot down the helicopter as it came too close to the border. (just saying..

 

[ptldM3]

Any planes underway to develop/equip 2.75 mm guided rockets to Mi series ?

I do not know if they are developing anything in that range. MI-24s uses different varients of the 130mm Ataka guided missile, one version is anti tank and another version dubbed 9M120f is an anti personnel guided rocket that uses a thermobaric 21LB warhead.

 

[tarrar]

Ok, but whennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?

 

[Peace seeker]

great our cobras will now be transferred to FC good.

 

[Aboobaker]

How about the Rooivalk helicopter from South Africa , it compares pretty well against most other attack helicopters world wide , very versatile as well.

 

[NaCCC]

Why not make your own ? Fighter jets are more complicated if Pakistan can make those why not Helicopters ?

 

[Sinnerman108]

1) This isn't an order of grocery items or shoes, its a high dollar item and has military sensitivities involved. No one has choppers sitting in a shop like Candy that you can buy, fly off and do missions. There are terms and it'll take time. The order has been placed and obviously, it'll be confirmed later when they are about to execute it and actually ship choppers.

2) Conspiracy theories much in the second paragraph??? Who's Pakistan's desired "customer"? Pakistan is the buyer and they have been wanting Russian choppers for a while.....so conspiracy theories can be put to rest please.

No one would be happier if the deal goes through, however facts are what we see on ground.

I am more than aware of what may be purchased in a shop and what may not;

Now, consider order is placed; this implies the factory has to build and execute the order.
The factory can not do it, until the price is agreed upon along with specifications
Price and specification are part of the contract along with litigation and termination clauses.

Do you really think, Mig will build , or even consider starting to build without a written agreement ?

As per your post, the build phase is already in progress, then why is the defense minister making a sales pitch ?

As for the last para, Russia's customer is India.
Pakistan's supplier is China.

Why not make your own ? Fighter jets are more complicated if Pakistan can make those why not Helicopters ?

Actually, it is the other way round.

 

[Arsalan]

Why not make your own ? Fighter jets are more complicated if Pakistan can make those why not Helicopters ?

one reason is that we do not need such huge numbers for which setting up a manufacturing line will make sense.

 

[syedali73]

one reason is that we do not need such huge numbers for which setting up a manufacturing line will make sense.

We definitely need Helicopters and it was pretty clear during the floods in Kashmir and during other disasters. It appears to me an issue of setting priorities rather than the need. Whats the harm if we could establish a manufacturing facility with the help of China for medium lift helicopters such as Mi-17? The same machines can also be armed if the need arises.

 

[Arsalan]

We definitely need Helicopters and it was pretty clear during the floods in Kashmir and during other disasters. It appears to me an issue of setting priorities rather than the need. Whats the harm if we could establish a manufacturing facility with the help of China for medium lift helicopters such as Mi-17? The same machines can also be armed if the need arises.

Well we were taking about Mi-35 attack helicopters first.
Regarding transport helicopter (in relief operations, a dedicated transport helicopter will make more sense compared to an attach/medium lift helo like Mi-35) yes the requirement is relatively larger then the attack helos but still we are not going to inducts hundreds of these. Production line make sense when the required number is large and also there is export potential (further increasing the potential number of systems that will be built). In our case, we wont be exporting many since Russians will like to sell it themselves first and secondly currently Pakistan is not as reliable an arms supplier as Russia or China. These things will take time.

Since we were actually discussing attack helicopters, so on topic, what makes more sense is that we BUY it directly and then set up a maintenance line with the one for Mi-17. This will give good know how to our engineers and also will decrease the operational costs. Also if Pakistan army go for the Russian Mi-35 (that will be a perfect option specially for anti insurgency operations) army should (i guess would) also go for a more high end platform in years to come in shape of Z-10 (more likely) or T-129

 

[Kamil_baku]

Well we were taking about Mi-35 attack helicopters first.
Regarding transport helicopter (in relief operations, a dedicated transport helicopter will make more sense compared to an attach/medium lift helo like Mi-35) yes the requirement is relatively larger then the attack helos but still we are not going to inducts hundreds of these. Production line make sense when the required number is large and also there is export potential (further increasing the potential number of systems that will be built). In our case, we wont be exporting many since Russians will like to sell it themselves first and secondly currently Pakistan is not as reliable an arms supplier as Russia or China. These things will take time.

Since we were actually discussing attack helicopters, so on topic, what makes more sense is that we BUY it directly and then set up a maintenance line with the one for Mi-17. This will give good know how to our engineers and also will decrease the operational costs. Also if Pakistan army go for the Russian Mi-35 (that will be a perfect option specially for anti insurgency operations) army should (i guess would) also go for a more high end platform in years to come in shape of Z-10 (more likely) or T-129

Azerbaijani army use many Mi-35. probably Pakistan have tested it or see it and recieved our real experience reviews thanks to our good relationship..

 

[wiseone2]

We definitely need Helicopters and it was pretty clear during the floods in Kashmir and during other disasters. It appears to me an issue of setting priorities rather than the need. Whats the harm if we could establish a manufacturing facility with the help of China for medium lift helicopters such as Mi-17? The same machines can also be armed if the need arises.

India has a fleet of 200+ Mi-17 helicopters. I do not think Russians have allowed India to assemble these choppers.
Good luck getting an assembly line

 

[araz]

India has a fleet of 200+ Mi-17 helicopters. I do not think Russians have allowed India to assemble these choppers.
Good luck getting an assembly line

Read Arsalan's post again. We don't need an assembly line just depot level maintenance which is already there.
Araz

 

[wiseone2]

Read Arsalan's post again. We don't need an assembly line just depot level maintenance which is already there.
Araz

I was responding to this line
"Whats the harm if we could establish a manufacturing facility with the help of China for medium lift helicopters such as Mi-17?"