russia loses rocket again - loses capability to launch satellites

[Götterdämmerung]

pretty much. In marocco it is till today. Ceuta and Melilla bitches.

Two little islands compared to the whole country. Last time I went to Marocco, they all spoke impeccable French. What about Vietnam, the "former Spanish colony"

 

[MarkusS]

Two little islands compared to the whole country. Last time I went to Marocco, they all spoke impeccable French. What about Vietnam, the "former Spanish colony"

It was under spanish trade agreement.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

It was under spanish trade agreement.

Who was under trade agreement?

 

[MarkusS]

Who was under trade agreement?

It was held during the portuguese union between 1580 and 1640. There were portu and spanish trade outposts there and a trade contract.

 

[random123]

Russia should help the Muslim countries looking to develop their own Solid and Liquid fuel system.

 

[Schutz]

Probably Mossad shooting it down with zionist lasers cannon.

 

[mandrom]

Okay ,how many men has Germany sent to space on its own indigenous rocket?

pretty much. In marocco it is till today. Ceuta and Melilla bitches.




The greek learned from you? as far i know the greeks invaded egypt and installed the ptolemaic dynasty. Cleopatra for example was greek. Alexandria is mostly a greek city. I have much respect for egypt and see it as part of our history and culture. Egypt is special for us. In rome it was not a provence but property of the emperor. My family visited egypt in 2000. I was a small boy then but fascinated from the temples. We went from Luxor to Aswan with ship and also back and visited Gizeh.

I´m glad you got rid of the muslim brotherhood.

As per carbon dating ,the pyramids are over 12000 years+.

 

[MarkusS]

Okay ,how many men has Germany sent to space on its own indigenous rocket?

So far all:

You do realize that Wernher von Braun and his completly german team brought man to the moon? The NASA itself calls rockets "german business". von Brauns triumps started with the V2 then went to mercury, gemini and culminated in the massive Saturn V which was used in the Apollo program and is the most powerful machine ever build. von Braun later started teh design on the Space Shuttle but unfortunately died before it was completed.

I think you are smart enough to know the gargantuan part of germany in the rocket design.

As for the pyramides. They were build durin the 4th dynasty. Roughly 4000 years before christ.

 

[mandrom]

So far all:

You do realize that Wernher von Braun and his completly german team brought man to the moon? The NASA itself calls rockets "german business". von Brauns triumps started with the V2 then went to mercury, gemini and culminated in the massive Saturn V which was used in the Apollo program and is the most powerful machine ever build. von Braun later started teh design on the Space Shuttle but unfortunately died before it was completed.

I think you are smart enough to know the gargantuan part of germany in the rocket design.

As for the pyramides. They were build durin the 4th dynasty. Roughly 4000 years before christ.

Wernher von braun was a german immigrant to USA. Not German citizen again,the man who enabled space travel Sergei Korolev.As far as moon is concerned Russians send moon rovers and robotic vehicles before USA. Then again ,I repeat my question ....

Okay ,how many men has Germany sent to space on its own indigenous rocket?

As for the pyramides. They were build durin the 4th dynasty. Roughly 4000 years before christ.

ANCIENT LEGENDS AND MODERN RESEARCH CONFIRM EACH OTHER

When we look at mythic history for the story of the origins of the Great Pyramid, we discover that the monument was not attributed to any Pharaoh, but was the product of the genius and higher learning of the Gods of Old. Time and time again, from the Roman Marcellinus to the Coptic Al Masudi and the Arab Ibn Abd Alhokim, the recounters of the ancient legends tell how the Pyramid was built to preserve the knowledge of a magnificent civilization from destruction by a Flood, and that it was this Flood which brought the Age of the Gods to its tragic end. The various Chronologies of Legendary Rulers place a minimum date for the Age of the Gods as circa 10,000 B.C. This is the time frame Plato, in his Timaeus and Critias, ascribed the destruction of Atlantis. And it is also this date, as can be proven in modern scientific studies, which was highlighted by major climatic, geologic and geomagnetic disturbances, accompanied by massive paleo-biological extinctions in the planet, marking the division point between the Ice Age and the Present Era.

In Egypt, geologists examining the fossil record have found that the combined effect of melting glaciers in the Mountains of the Moon, plus a sharp rise in precipitation levels in Central Africa, caused the Nile river circa 10,000 B.C. to swell in size a thousandfold, eroding away cliff walls miles from its present banks, and washing out its entire valley throughout the length of Egypt. At the same time, as the Mediterranean Sea began to fill and rise due to higher ocean levels from melting northern glaciers, its waters for a brief period also flooded the lower Nile valley.



These, geologists are certain, are the last major flood events in Egypt’s fossil history, before the sea retreated and the Nile settled down to today’s relatively peaceful, winding flow. Yet, knowing this, geologists are hard pressed to explain why there existed a fourteen-foot layer of silt sediment around the base of the Pyramid, a layer which also contained many seashells, and the fossil of a sea cow, all of which were dated by radiocarbon methods to 11,600 B.P. (Before Present) plus or minus 300 years.

Legends and records likewise speak of the fact that, before the Arabs removed the Pyramid’s outer casing stones, one could see water marks on the stones halfway up the Pyramid’s height, in about the 240-foot level, which would be 400 feet above the present Nile level. The medieval Arab historian Al Biruni, writing in his treatise The Chronology of Ancient Nations, noted: "The Persians and the great mass of Magians relate that the inhabitants of the west, when they were warned by their sages, constructed buildings of the King and the Giza Pyramids. The traces of the water of the Deluge and the effects of the waves are still visible on these pyramids halfway up, above which the water did not rise." Add to this the observation made when the Pyramid was first opened, that incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. Most of this salt is natural exudation from the chambered rock wall, but chemical analysis also shows some of the salt has a mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. Thus, during the prehistoric Flood, when waters surrounded the Great Pyramid, the known and unknown entrances leaked, allowing seawater into the interior, which later evaporated and left the salts behind. The locations where the salts are found are consistent with the monument having been submerged half-way up its height.

If the floodings of 10,000 B.C. were the last major catastrophic water events in Egypt, and the Pyramid exhibits signs of having been subjected to them, it means the Pyramid must date from a period before the flooding occurred.

Though most Egyptologists today have yet to accept such a necessary "radical" revision of their dating of the Pyramid, there have been other discoveries that have forced them to at least realize that their preconceived theories of any early Dynastic age for the structure is no longer tenable.

World Mysteries - Mystic Places - The Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt

Another theory of yours goes in the dustbin on Eqyptian civilisation considering the pyramids are over 10,000 years old .

 

[Götterdämmerung]

It was held during the portuguese union between 1580 and 1640. There were portu and spanish trade outposts there and a trade contract.

So, a few trade outposts become a full colony for an area a few thousand time larger.

What about Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia being former Spanish colonies?

 

[MarkusS]

Wernher von braun was a german immigrant to USA. Not German citizen again,the man who enabled space travel Sergei Korolev.As far as moon is concerned Russians send moon rovers and robotic vehicles before USA. Then again ,I repeat my question ....





ANCIENT LEGENDS AND MODERN RESEARCH CONFIRM EACH OTHER

When we look at mythic history for the story of the origins of the Great Pyramid, we discover that the monument was not attributed to any Pharaoh, but was the product of the genius and higher learning of the Gods of Old. Time and time again, from the Roman Marcellinus to the Coptic Al Masudi and the Arab Ibn Abd Alhokim, the recounters of the ancient legends tell how the Pyramid was built to preserve the knowledge of a magnificent civilization from destruction by a Flood, and that it was this Flood which brought the Age of the Gods to its tragic end. The various Chronologies of Legendary Rulers place a minimum date for the Age of the Gods as circa 10,000 B.C. This is the time frame Plato, in his Timaeus and Critias, ascribed the destruction of Atlantis. And it is also this date, as can be proven in modern scientific studies, which was highlighted by major climatic, geologic and geomagnetic disturbances, accompanied by massive paleo-biological extinctions in the planet, marking the division point between the Ice Age and the Present Era.

In Egypt, geologists examining the fossil record have found that the combined effect of melting glaciers in the Mountains of the Moon, plus a sharp rise in precipitation levels in Central Africa, caused the Nile river circa 10,000 B.C. to swell in size a thousandfold, eroding away cliff walls miles from its present banks, and washing out its entire valley throughout the length of Egypt. At the same time, as the Mediterranean Sea began to fill and rise due to higher ocean levels from melting northern glaciers, its waters for a brief period also flooded the lower Nile valley.



These, geologists are certain, are the last major flood events in Egypt’s fossil history, before the sea retreated and the Nile settled down to today’s relatively peaceful, winding flow. Yet, knowing this, geologists are hard pressed to explain why there existed a fourteen-foot layer of silt sediment around the base of the Pyramid, a layer which also contained many seashells, and the fossil of a sea cow, all of which were dated by radiocarbon methods to 11,600 B.P. (Before Present) plus or minus 300 years.

Legends and records likewise speak of the fact that, before the Arabs removed the Pyramid’s outer casing stones, one could see water marks on the stones halfway up the Pyramid’s height, in about the 240-foot level, which would be 400 feet above the present Nile level. The medieval Arab historian Al Biruni, writing in his treatise The Chronology of Ancient Nations, noted: "The Persians and the great mass of Magians relate that the inhabitants of the west, when they were warned by their sages, constructed buildings of the King and the Giza Pyramids. The traces of the water of the Deluge and the effects of the waves are still visible on these pyramids halfway up, above which the water did not rise." Add to this the observation made when the Pyramid was first opened, that incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. Most of this salt is natural exudation from the chambered rock wall, but chemical analysis also shows some of the salt has a mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. Thus, during the prehistoric Flood, when waters surrounded the Great Pyramid, the known and unknown entrances leaked, allowing seawater into the interior, which later evaporated and left the salts behind. The locations where the salts are found are consistent with the monument having been submerged half-way up its height.

If the floodings of 10,000 B.C. were the last major catastrophic water events in Egypt, and the Pyramid exhibits signs of having been subjected to them, it means the Pyramid must date from a period before the flooding occurred.

Though most Egyptologists today have yet to accept such a necessary "radical" revision of their dating of the Pyramid, there have been other discoveries that have forced them to at least realize that their preconceived theories of any early Dynastic age for the structure is no longer tenable.

World Mysteries - Mystic Places - The Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt

Another theory of yours goes in the dustbin on Eqyptian civilisation considering the pyramids are over 10,000 years old .

von Braun never gave up his german citizenship and he was not an immigrant. He was taken hostage after WW II. It was called "Operation paperclip". Learn history.

Same as your bullshit about the pyramides. The first real pyramide was build from Pharao Snofru at beginning 4th dynasty. Chufu, Chephren and Mykerinos followed later in 4th dynasty. They were build roughly around 2560 years before christ:

Great Pyramid of Giza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

evrything else is mystery bullshit.

 

[mandrom]

von Braun never gave up his german citizenship and he was not an immigrant. He was taken hostage after WW II. It was called "Operation paperclip". Learn history.

Same as your bullshit about the pyramides. The first real pyramide was build from Pharao Snofru at beginning 4th dynasty. Chufu, Chephren and Mykerinos followed later in 4th dynasty. They were build roughly around 2560 years before christ:
Great Pyramid of Giza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

evrything else is mystery bullshit.

After the war, he and some of his rocket team were taken to the U.S. as part of the then-secret Operation Paperclip. In 1955, ten years after entering the country, von Braun became a naturalized U.S. citizen.
Wernher von Braun

Enough said for your first BS claim.

Same as your bullshit about the pyramides. The first real pyramide was build from Pharao Snofru at beginning 4th dynasty. Chufu, Chephren and Mykerinos followed later in 4th dynasty. They were build roughly around 2560 years before christ:

You quote wiki to prove your point. Speaks volumes about you. Like I said before West forges numbers to justify their position.

NOVA: What does the radiocarbon dating tell us about the date of the pyramids?

LEHNER: Well, we did a first run in 1984, actually, funded by the Edgar Cayce Foundation because they had definite ideas that the pyramids were much older than Egyptologists believed. That they date as early as 10,500 B.C. Well, obviously for them it was a good test case because radio carbon dating does not give you pinpoint accuracy. If you have a plus or minus factor, but I say it's kind of like shooting at a fly on a barn with a shotgun. Well, you're not going to hit the fly exactly, you're going to know which side of the barn, which end of the barn, you know, the buckshot is scattering. And it wasn't scattering at 10,500 B.C. on that first run of some 70 samples from a whole selection of pyramids of the Old Kingdom. But it was significantly older than Egyptologists believed. We were getting dates from the 1984 study that were on the average 374 years too old for the Cambridge Ancient History, (the Cambridge Ancient History is a reference) dates for the kings who built these monuments. So just recently we took some 300 samples, and in collaboration with our Egyptian colleagues, we are now in the process of dating these samples. The outcome we are going to announce jointly in tandem with our Egyptian colleagues, and maybe we can pick up the subject of the results when we're over there in Egypt together with Dr. Zahi Hawass (during the February excavation of the bakeries at Giza).
NOVA Online/Pyramids/How Old Are the Pyramids?

The Great Pyramid of Egypt is usually attributed to Pharaoh Cheops (Khufu) about 2550 BC.

But a ‘Pyramids Carbon-dating Project’, led by prominent Harvard Egyptologist, Dr Mark Lehner,
collected and tested 64 samples of gypsum mortar containing traces of carbon. The analyses from two independent laboratories gave results ranging from 3809 to 2869 BC – anywhere from 300 to 1200 years off – or as Lehner concluded ‘on average’ about 400-450 years ‘too early’ (after he arbitrarily discarded the ‘anomalous’ result of 3809 BC). That would put an objective date on the Great Pyramid of around 3000 BC. Professor Lehner acknowledged the significance of the discrepancies, writing, ‘this is really radical … it’ll make a big stink … the Giza pyramid is [at least] 400 years older than Egyptologists believe. But it didn’t cause a big stink at all – it was so inconvenient it was ignored and Egyptologists continued as if nothing had happened. (1)

That date was not alone; other radio-carbon tests of Old Kingdom ruins at Saqqara likewise showed they also are 400 years ‘too early’ versus conventional dating. (2)
And yet another very similar example is the so-called ‘boat of Khufu’ which is now on public display at the Pyramid. It was discovered in 1954 in a sealed stone vault integrally aligned at the base of the Pyramid, and the pieces were reconstructed into a boat measuring 5.9 m beam x 43.3m length. In orthodox texts it is called the ‘boat of ‘Khufu’ – by circular association with the Pyramid – interpreted as the symbolic solar barque on which Khufu soared into the heavens to be reunited with the gods. But, the puzzling thing is - the cedar wood has since been radiocarbon dated to 3400 BC – about 900 yearsbefore the conventional date for the Pyramid. (3)
Egyptologists prove Great Pyramid was built 400 years before Cheops. - Before The Delusion

If you want to be knowledgable ,stop reading wiki for once.Second ,Carbon dating proves that Pyramids were before khufu and if the salt data and water marks data is correct then much older ,something like 10000 years old.

Now rain, in the quantities required for this degree of weathering, had not fallen in Egypt since the end of the last Ice Age , around 11000-10000 BC. He was backed up by a huge phalanx of geologists who found West’s evidence overwhelming. When West presented his findings to the 1992 Convention of the Geological Society of America no less than three hundred of his peers endorsed his work.

A related piece of circumstantial evidence is the situation of the Sphinx itself. It has been sculpted out of the solid rock and so is surrounded by a deep trench which, until relatively recently, was always full of sand so burying most of the monument. It has always been agreed by Egyptologists that the Pyramids and the Sphinx are contemporary and related structures but at the time the Sphinx was carved there could not have been a desert. No one would have carved out a monument which was going to be constantly buried in sand.

Thus, it was argued, the Sphinx must have been carved before the establishment of the Libyan desert i.e. some time prior to 10,000 BC. Thus the Giza Pyramids must also be that old.

How old is the Great pyramid

 

[MarkusS]

Enough said for your first BS claim.



You quote wiki to prove your point. Speaks volumes about you. Like I said before West forges numbers to justify their position.






If you want to be knowledgable ,stop reading wiki for once.Second ,Carbon dating proves that Pyramids were before khufu and if the salt data and water marks data is correct then much older ,something like 10000 years old.

you can´t carbon data rocks. There simply is no organic carbon inside. So stop this bullshit. What you say here is alien bullshit and unfounded fantasy stories. Not one egyptologists believes such garbage.

Same as your von Braun BS. He never skipepd his german citizenship. He had double citizenship.

 

[mandrom]

you can´t carbon data rocks. There simply is no organic carbon inside. So stop this bullshit. What you say here is alien bullshit and unfounded fantasy stories. Not one egyptologists believes such garbage.

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According to scientists you and the Eqyptologists are spewing gibberish and carbon dating is proving it and yes rocks can be carbon dated too.Good reason ,that world does not trust west considering West forges numbers to justify position.As proven by Climategate scandal,Libor corruption scandal(over 100 trillion$),arming of al qaeda in syria by west etc.

I repeat so how many men has germany sent to space on indigenous rockets.If von braun was german citizen as you claim why did he not build space rocket for germany?

 

[Basel]

Muslim countries don´t exist anymore since there is not one country that is not trying to copy west. Take a look at your funny Saudi Arabia.

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@Aeronaut