rockstar08
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You know that tribals=afghanis are not same thing right?
yeah i know ,they are different but they hardly follow the border rules
="rockstar08, post: 6747459, member: 149533"]the problem with people here, that when some one say , he is against Tribal culture , he become racist ... that is weird logic i guess , and oh yes , a default supporter of MQM lolz , just like only MQM is suffering in Karachi or they are only killers ?
the problem is not in the culture mate if you made up shit about my culture off course i would call you a racist. wouldn't you call me that too if i say shit about your culture?
strange fact is mostly everyone is proud on his ethnic background , but some so called Urdu speaking people are ashamed of themselves ... lolz at them .. now all Pakistani are free to go anywhere, I agree... but you are not allowed to take your tribal culture with you .... now suppose tomorrow all Urdu speaking people go to FATA with out way of living , will they accept ?? they wont ..... but Karachi host all ethic background people , but that doesnt mean you are allowed to start messing the city law and order ...
how about take up responsibility of the mess in karachi and stop blaming it on all tribals. Karachi is in the mess since 90's did you have this tribal issues then too?? no you dint have so own up your mess don't blame it on us tribals. we are not angels but certainly we are not the reasons for every wrong doing in the country and karachi.
so many people here , specially live in Punjab , Balochistan , KPK and they are masters in debate with a person who has lived his entire life in Karachi ... so thats a big lol
i wont say i know the situation of Punjab better than a person who is living there from 20 years or more ...
Karachi offer people " rozi " so come here and work hard , but if you make your areas the way , these tribals had made them , than no body will like it ... .i am openly challenging anyone here on PDF , that go to Mango pir , and afghan basti in jeans and shirt with music on in car ... and if you remain alive , than we will talk ...
for your information we did not make our areas this way, they have been kept like that for the past 65 years, i asked this question from like 10 ppl who are criticising tribals to tell me about a single university they have built in tribal areas or a hospital can you name one??? the problem is not in my culture the problem is in how we are kept since the first day of the creation of this country and then you blame us for it?? you start building universities let me see how many tribals oppose you.
my friend in a university some 3 years back , told me that there are 4 different areas where Afghans are running their jirga law , with the help of Tribal of course ... now tell me , Karachi is not FATA , there is a law here . and anyone who break is must be punished according to it ..
let me tell you one thing there is nothing wrong in jirga if ppl living there are solving their disputes this way. that is the problem with you guys, you guys know nothing about tribal cultures and starts saying shit about it. if you two brothers have some disputes in your family wouldn't they sit on it to work it out?? yeah you would and that is what we do and we call it jirga and so to everyone keeps their words after jirga few elders of the tribe are included into it so what on earth is wrong with it?? yeah if its practiced bad then that is the governments responsibility to make sure they don't abuse that system. you simply cannot call the whole jirga system as some evil ritual or something.
so before you jump into the pool of Emotions about your Tribe , ethicity ... first know about the fact ,which is different from what you see on media ... media show " Hum sab Pakistani " blah blah blah .. but in real we are everything but " Pakistani " .... and of course the champion here " Punjabi " ... they are devil when they are out of Pakistan ... i have meet more than 10 people who tell them that just because of their Punjabi boss , they lost their jobs, and he bring his fellow Punjabi on that position ... Pathan support Pathan , Sindhi support sindhi ..
and yeah one more thing here , that i have no problem if someone from any part of Pakistan to karachi for work , Rozi Allah ata kerta hai , jahan jis ka rizk hai , use milay ga ... but i would appreciate much more that if govt make at least one Karachi in every state of Pakistan ... people dont have to leave their area and go to other place to find jobs , health facility or education ... when i saw news of shikar pur attack , and news told us that the wounded people were transferred to Karachi , i feel so angry, that why not these A$$ hole govt make at least one good Hospital in every city ?? what if anyone who is critically injured die within the Transport process ?? all cities must have 2-3 universities , 2-3 Hospitals ( big ) and small clinics , their own electricity centers, jobs etc ...
second your thoughts on this one make one karachi (industrial zone) in my tribal area too i will give you the land.
on topic .... these Afghans should go back to their country , same go for Uzbek , Tajik , and bangali's .... who are illegally living here , should be send back to it ...
you type a long reply dude, i wasnt expecting it though ... but let me clear your mind a bit ...
first i said i dont have problem with Tribal people but with Tribal system ... so its different , you are free to say anything to my culture , i have been listening to many things is here , my brother was once told by a Jamati pathan , that Muhajir ko maarna , aur kutty ko maarna baraber hai , so to be honest i dont give jack shit about them ...
i hate tribal culture cause its always contradict with govt law , its baba adam ke zamane ka law , and why education is not in Fata , i dont see any Jihad for education starting from fata ? but jihad for their own version of Islam .. that is also a reality ..
well yeah why not , clean the karachi .. but problem is when last time police of Rangers go to Afghan basti , mango pir they were attack by rocket launchers lolz so if you are from Pashtoon warrior blood , than please come and clean the Karachi , i dont mind if you kill the MQM thugs ...
the problem with jirga is i dont want to see it in my neighborhood , as i said ,if tomorrow USA come to FATA and say now FATA is a nudist area, that is how we live, our rules ... will they accept ?? lolz
tribals come to karachi for work , come and work , live there , enjoy .. but leave your tribal system in FATA , and if it is than keep it to your home ..
and as i said , i didnt said the tribal even ask for any schools or college , or any Industrial zone ... all they want no police , no govt interference , they want them to be left alone with their pride of Pashtoons , and their tribal system ...
i said it my first message , i have no problem with anyone coming to karachi , work here ... enjoy , but leave your tribal system back there .... and if they come keep it there , because of that system they give shelter to their tribals brother who work for taliban , and when police go there , there A$$'s on fire that " Chaar divari ka taqadu pamal ho raha hai " when they bring Uzbeks,tajik than they dont care about their wife and daughters ?? that is just a joke to me ...
their weapons , smuggling , extortion ...
i know that karachi was mess when they were not here , but now its more mess .. and before that there were no no go areas , i have been to university for 4 years , and we go to some areas where today even in morning we cant go ...