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Some people always take the advantage of the internet (which provides "non-realistic space" for anyone to talk anything they want) to spread rumors and lies.
For example, here is a statement posted by a new recruit here yesterday:
Here is my response:
Could you please provide source of this story please?
Yet obviously someone is not willing to prove his words and try to divert attention by dropping bunch of "sources":
I nicely ask him again to post the exact page that able to prove his statement:
Again may I ask you to find me a book or sth that can prove any word you state here:
[ It was surprising for British and French army to discover that the Qing army's weaponry were in such a low level that they only know how to use long knife to cut. And it was also surprising to Chinese when they discovered that weapons created and improved in Ming Dynasty was even better and superior than the weapons used by Qing troops. Yet, all of those were dumped by Qing government, because they thought this is not good to maintain their govern over Han people. ]
Especially that bold part.
Yet this is what he replied to another liar:
My response to such irresponsible, rude, shameless attitude:
How could you drop a bunch of staffs and ask me to search it for myself instead of showing me the exact page that prove your statement. Maybe it's not because you are irresponsible or sth, maybe it's because you don't even know where the source is and this is all your own imagination.
Every single reference I have used, I post the exact parts of the books instead of just throwing you a bunch and let you find it. See, this is how academic discussion works. You are the one who is getting irrational here.
How about you go tell your professor at university that "I have drop bunch of books on your desk. Here is my dissertation without any reference, if you want reference just search those books. I don't have time for that."
Another shameless reply:
Again if you are not able to provide any source in exact page, then that means you DIDN'T even know what you are talking about and all of the words come from your mouth are all nonsense~
Everyone who has read my posts knows that this is how I make statement, one of the example:
Another example:
Since I'm a responsible man who respect and care facts the most, I have been spending hours to search for historical record that can prove that guy's statement -yet none of the sources support his "story"~ But that doesn't mean that I didn't find anything interesting during those past hours... (to be continued)
For example, here is a statement posted by a new recruit here yesterday:
It was surprising for British and French army to discover that the Qing army's weaponry were in such a low level that they only know how to use long knife to cut. And it was also surprising to Chinese when they discovered that weapons created and improved in Ming Dynasty was even better and superior than the weapons used by Qing troops. Yet, all of those were dumped by Qing government, because they thought this is not good to maintain their govern over Han people.
Here is my response:
Could you please provide source of this story please?
Yet obviously someone is not willing to prove his words and try to divert attention by dropping bunch of "sources":
Have you forgot being invaded by foreign troops in late Qing Dynasty? Have you forgot how they burned everything in the Summer Palace?
Well, perhaps you gotta check more biography or files written by George Macartney, Matteo Ricci and many other churchmen that had come to China. Also, historical relics rubbed by foreign invasions won't cheat people's eyes. No matter by googling or baidu or to just look up to some technology history or weaponry history books talking about China, you'll certainly see the difference of 2 periods of time divided by the point that China was occupied by Qing government.
I nicely ask him again to post the exact page that able to prove his statement:
Again may I ask you to find me a book or sth that can prove any word you state here:
[ It was surprising for British and French army to discover that the Qing army's weaponry were in such a low level that they only know how to use long knife to cut. And it was also surprising to Chinese when they discovered that weapons created and improved in Ming Dynasty was even better and superior than the weapons used by Qing troops. Yet, all of those were dumped by Qing government, because they thought this is not good to maintain their govern over Han people. ]
Especially that bold part.
Yet this is what he replied to another liar:
I guess he just want us to give him/her the exact name of books. How hilarious he is since we've given him the things for him to look up.
There's no need to argue with him any more, for he's becoming irrational with every line~ Have fun and it's time for me to have dinner~
My response to such irresponsible, rude, shameless attitude:
How could you drop a bunch of staffs and ask me to search it for myself instead of showing me the exact page that prove your statement. Maybe it's not because you are irresponsible or sth, maybe it's because you don't even know where the source is and this is all your own imagination.
Every single reference I have used, I post the exact parts of the books instead of just throwing you a bunch and let you find it. See, this is how academic discussion works. You are the one who is getting irrational here.
How about you go tell your professor at university that "I have drop bunch of books on your desk. Here is my dissertation without any reference, if you want reference just search those books. I don't have time for that."
Another shameless reply:
If you are talking about history then how could you not making reference? Who do you think you are, 玉皇大帝 (an "advanced God" in Chinese folk beliefs) ? You want people to believe everything come for your mouth and trust your own imagination? Who is the silly guy here?you are not my professor, and we are talking about history, not all history books are on internet, so silly, m.r double standards man
Again if you are not able to provide any source in exact page, then that means you DIDN'T even know what you are talking about and all of the words come from your mouth are all nonsense~
Everyone who has read my posts knows that this is how I make statement, one of the example:
"The slightest fault committed by a Tartar mandarin ( Manchurian) is severely punished; but the punishment of the greatest is often mitigated, if the delinquent be a Chinese (Han)."
--A General Description of China by Jean-Baptiste Grosier
An Historical, Geographical, and Philosophical View of the Chinese Empire ... - William Winterbotham - Google 圖書
Another example:
記得哪個滿清酋長說過,朕非中國之人,乃主中國之事
(Translate: A Manchurian ruler claimed that he is not Chinese who rules over China.)
甚麼叫 "乃主中國之事",你篡改文獻的技倆有夠差勁的:
"在逆賊等之意,徒謂本朝以滿洲之君,入為中國之主,妄生此疆彼界之私,遂故為訕謗詆譏之說耳。不知本朝之為滿洲,猶中國之有籍貫。舜為東夷之人,文王為西夷之人,曾何損於聖德乎?" - 大義覺迷錄
(Translate: here is what the manchurian really said "Traitors are so foolish that they don't even know Manchuria is a part of China.")
Since I'm a responsible man who respect and care facts the most, I have been spending hours to search for historical record that can prove that guy's statement -yet none of the sources support his "story"~ But that doesn't mean that I didn't find anything interesting during those past hours... (to be continued)
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