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[ranjeet]

some people say Lord shiva is god for the gods... some say lord Vishnu.... that depends on what they believe. .. what you want to Christians say??? Jesus is junior to other ... common man.. why taking it personal. ..

I am not taking it personal, I am just saying it's a bait and there are people in India who will readily take it. Why unnecessarily provoke religious sentiments.

I am not a religious person but the way main stream media is trying to portray Hindus in bad light just because Modi became PM is not right. Heard a JNU professor say after the election results came out that People who voted for Modi must have their voting rights revoked. No one made an issue out of it.

 

[haviZsultan]

I too am glad that your parents & grandparents realised it . Thankful that they spared us the problem of having to deal with another loony chap, we already have our hands full with enough of them.

A bit rich to comment on any others poster's line of thinking when you try & validate it by suggesting that all Muslims in India are Pakistanis, not that any of them are interested in your certificate.

Well my grandfather and my mother and family stayed on in Lucknow while supporting Pakistan. Hopefully if India continues its policies of repression they themselves will weaken India, before Pakistan or muslims from other side of the border break it. We have no link to India. It treats us as garbage. Not only does it not allow us to practice (like cow slaughte)r but also insults our religion and century old traditions.

My mother who came much after 47 from Lucknow knew well that India is a land made only for Hindus and Muslims would always be second class citizens. Even my grandfather who stayed on knew this as do his future generations.

 

[Bang Galore]

Well my grandfather and my mother and family stayed on in Lucknow while supporting Pakistan. Hopefully if India continues its policies of repression they themselves will weaken India, before Pakistan or muslims from other side of the border break it. We have no link to India. It treats us as garbage. Not only does it not allow us to practice (like cow slaughte)r but also insults our religion and century old traditions.

If the highlighted part is true, then why do you think that they should not deserve the hate that they are supposedly getting?

My mother who came much after 47 from Lucknow knew well that India is a land made only for Hindus and Muslims would always be second class citizens. Even my grandfather who stayed on knew this as do his future generations.

Tough. They should have moved to Pakistan then. No place for traitors.

 

[haviZsultan]

If the highlighted part is true, then why do you think that they should not deserve the hate that they are supposedly getting?





Tough. They should have moved to Pakistan then. No place for traitors.

That is our land. Lucknow is our land as is Kashmir. Our family does not count Lucknow as outside Pakistan. This is why we stayed on. The reality is India always treated us despicably and we have no reason to be loyal to said country.

 

[mooppan]

What about those soul harvesting healers? Why don't you guys speak out against them?

this is double standard..
What about hate mongers like togadia,sakshi and yogi??..Why don't you guys speak out against them??...just go through this very thread.you could see many defending and justifying these creatures..

 

[Bang Galore]

I am not taking it personal, I am just saying it's a bait and there are people in India who will readily take it. Why unnecessarily provoke religious sentiments.

I agree. No one expects anyone to say differently within their own groups, that would be understandable & accepted. Doing so like this is unnecessary.

I am not a religious person but the way main stream media is trying to portray Hindus in bad light just because Modi became PM is not right.

Agree.

Heard a JNU professor say after the election results came out that People who voted for Modi must have their voting rights revoked. No one made an issue out of it.

I don't think that remark was made seriously, more like tongue firmly in cheek. Watched her say it if I remember correctly.

That is our land. Lucknow is our land as is Kashmir. Our family does not count Lucknow as outside Pakistan. This is why we stayed on. The reality is India always treated us despicably and we have no reason to be loyal to said country.

Your family might not believe in the laws of gravity. Won't make any difference if they attempted to test it.

You made the point that your family never believed in India, they had a chance to go to the country made for such people. Once they chose not to go there, they have no business being disloyal. If they insist on being so, they fully deserve any consequences that come their way.

 

[Tridibans]

That is our land. Lucknow is our land as is Kashmir. Our family does not count Lucknow as outside Pakistan. This is why we stayed on. The reality is India always treated us despicably and we have no reason to be loyal to said country.

That is crap logic. Lucknow is your land because earlier you guys lived there? What if we go more early in time... when Hindus lived in Pakistan. BTW, If we play this game, Muslims came to the subcontinent just 1300 odd years ago. In that case, Buddhists should claim all of S. Asia... and before so we Hindus as we are even older....

 

[ranjeet]

I don't think that remark was made seriously, more like tongue firmly in cheek. Watched her say it if I remember correctly.

It boils down to how one articulate his/her thoughts, and I agree right wing needs to brush up on this skill.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

why are you bringing faiths between? i already said i have no problem with islam. i have problem with muslims of south asia. that means i am against particular group of people because of their wrong doing in past. and i want it should not happen in future.


I have seen your posts. you are particularly hostile towards Hindus. and you have soft corner for Pakistanis. I suspect you are false flagged Pakistani or traitor.

Pakistan is not our enemy. Our enemy are ourselves.

It boils down to how one articulate his/her thoughts, and I agree right wing needs to brush up on this skill.

Right wing is based on action and not on an intellectual platform. There can be a Rosenberg in somewhere, but the movement needs action. Strong action and not occasional brainfarts. Actions that silence a vast number of critics. Forever. Without resorting to hooliganism and compromising productivity of the State.

In that case, Buddhists should claim all of S. Asia... and before so we Hindus as we are even older....

Oh cut the crap. Might makes right. Alpha beta omega of it all.

 

[danger007]

I am not taking it personal, I am just saying it's a bait and there are people in India who will readily take it. Why unnecessarily provoke religious sentiments.

I am not a religious person but the way main stream media is trying to portray Hindus in bad light just because Modi became PM is not right. Heard a JNU professor say after the election results came out that People who voted for Modi must have their voting rights revoked. No one made an issue out of it.

have you take a look at it.... they took it from Bible... not on their own..

That is our land. Lucknow is our land as is Kashmir. Our family does not count Lucknow as outside Pakistan. This is why we stayed on. The reality is India always treated us despicably and we have no reason to be loyal to said country.

please pay taxes for lived in our land....

 

[cloud_9]

This is what a "preacher" who is IAS by the way had to say about people killed in Uttarakhand floods.

https://twitter.com/x/status/560525716337356800

Isn't that what Christians say when tragedy strikes and for fck sake he's a preacher which means he is a bit nuttier than your average joe.

Secondly most of the fob converts tend to be a bit more orthodox and crazy.I had a real life experience with my gf's mata ji.

 

[ranjeet]

have you take a look at it.... they took it from Bible... not on their own..

There are many verses who condemn non believers to hell fire, would you support that too if someone wants to paint that on walls? Anyway my basic point was that "it's provocative". Why indulge in it in the first place? Lets agree to disagree here, as our conversation is sinking further into religious debate.

I respect everyone's religious beliefs but i won't stay silent if mine are mocked, ridiculed or demonized unnecessarily just because people with vested interest can't stand the sight of Modi as PM.

 

[ravi kiran]

WTF is going on here? @danger007 calm down man I am with you on this one...

@ravi kiran See... I am a devout Hindu. I support BJP but I am not a bigot. Muslims of India (or Christians or whatever...) are as much Indians as we both are. Hell, some like Kalam and Manekshaw are perhaps more Indian than you and me could ever be. Some RSS guys are idiots and they speak idiotic language. Same as some Imran Masood of Congress said we should behead Modi.

BTW, Even if I am an atheist like @Joe Shearer , I won't make fun of 'superstitions' as those may be faith of others. If this is not secularism I don't know what is....

you dont thinking of these people. they want India to be once again ruled by muslims. if we dont do anything now our future generations will be slaves to these muslims.

Pakistan is not our enemy. Our enemy are ourselves.

agree on that.

 

[ranjeet]

Isn't that what Christians say when tragedy strikes and for fck sake he's a preacher which means he is a bit nuttier than your average joe.

Secondly most of the fob converts tend to be a bit more orthodox and crazy.I had a real life experience with my gf's mata ji.

It's not about what he said, but about how media selectively pick and chose to whine about.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I would normally laugh at a picture like this one ... but I bet if people who painted that were confronted they would have pulled out their victim card at the drop of a hat.

So sweet. But we hear La ilaha illallah every day - five times. Surely we can put up with some more supremacist stuff like this. When it comes to God/s, we pagans are treated as the International crap. Lowest of the Lows.

It's not about what he said, but about how media selectively pick and chose to whine about.

They are doing their job. The last flickers of a dying Nehruvian Secular Indian generation.