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RSS converts 200 Indian Muslims into Hinduism.

It doesn't matter when they converted, what matters is that they need the State's help if they are economically underprivileged irrespective of their religion. Just a question I wanted to ask you, Do you think that the Dalits are given special privileges to atone the past mistakes of ancestors of Upper class?

No, I do not believe in dole economics. People can get poor from a variety of reasons, poor choices, lack of discipline, inertia, etc. etc. I do not want the state to help them out in these conditions. SC/STs have a genuine case of injustice against them for hundreds of years. That is reason why reservations were done for them in the first place. It was meant for a limited period only. I hope they remove all reservations going forward.
 
No, I do not believe in dole economics. People can get poor from a variety of reasons, poor choices, lack of discipline, inertia, etc. etc. I do not want the state to help them out in these conditions. SC/STs have a genuine case of injustice against them for hundreds of years. That is reason why reservations were done for them in the first place. It was meant for a limited period only. I hope they remove all reservations going forward.

So you mean to say that these reservations are more like compensation for what they have gone through in the past. Is that so?
 

Thanks for your apt reply. Ok take this as an example, if you have two sons one who was good in his academics and now earns handsomely and other who wasn't that good and as of now need help from you to set up a business so that he can earn his living. What would you do? Would you not help him?
 
Thanks for your apt reply. Ok take this as an example, if you have two sons one who was good in his academics and now earns handsomely and other who wasn't that good and as of now need help from you to set up a business so that he can earn his living. What would you do? Would you not help him?

I am his parent, so I may help him once or twice in a limited sense. The state is not my parent. It is meant to be impartial.
 
I am his parent, so I may help him once or twice in a limited sense. The state is not my parent. It is meant to be impartial.

State may not be a parent in a literal sense but yes the state has responsibility towards its citizens and should help them until they can support themselves.
 
State may not be a parent in a literal sense but yes the state has responsibility towards its citizens and should help them until they can support themselves.

No, its responsibility is to provide an environment where everyone can avail of equal opportunities and compete to the best of their abilities. Not to provide them crutches so that they get permanently impaired and become beggars for life.

Bullshit.

That is what it was meant for. What happened to it later on is a different story.
 
No, its responsibility is to provide an environment where everyone can avail of equal opportunities and compete to the best of their abilities. Not to provide them crutches so that they get permanently impaired and become beggars for life.

So is/was the government successful in providing equal opportunities?
 
If congress didn't then BLAME them, I never asked you to not complain. But the solution is to use the same tactics to convert muslims into Hindus?

And lemme tell you- YES, Christian missionaries trying to convert more Christians through inducements IS a lot less dangerous than Hindus doing the same thing. Whatever they try it will have little impact, but once you let this idea become mainstream among the majority, it becomes an overwhelming problem that cannot be solved. If Hindus in pak decided to get more converts, it'll never become a serious issue, but once the idea became mainstram among muslims, then it let loose a wave of communal upheavals that has burned them for decades. And the BJP wants to do this only for securing their power base- so our society has to be shattered for their power lust? Lemme ask you- Modi stabilized the economy, but then he has also let loose a wave of crony capitalism unseen in India's history- the most recent case is Adanis getting Billion $ loans from PSU banks. We need to spend time on hindu conversions and gita nation next etc. so that we are distracted away from these grave crimes ?
yeah like good taliban and bad taliban.
 
No. It has not.

So till the time, the government is not successful with regards to equal opportunities, shouldn't they be providing these "Crutches" so they can compete with lucky others who were born with a silver spoon...
 
So till the time, the government is not successful with regards to equal opportunities, shouldn't they be providing these "Crutches" so they can compete with lucky others who were born with a silver spoon...

No, it cannot. Because by definition there are 800 million poor in India. Providing reservation for 800 million poor makes a joke of reservation.
 
No, it cannot. Because by definition there are 800 million poor in India. Providing reservation for 800 million poor makes a joke of reservation.

Almost all the poor populace of India does get help in one or the other way(though it hasn't been effectively distributed because of corruption) by the Government in education, food, health etc. But reservation is provided only to those who are deserving, so how is it wrong if best talent among those poor are given a chance to learn and earn alongside the rest by the State?
 
Almost all the poor populace of India does get help in one or the other way(though it hasn't been effectively distributed because of corruption) by the Government in education, food, health etc. But reservation is provided only to those who are deserving, so how is it wrong if best talent among those poor are given a chance to learn and earn alongside the rest by the State?

Reservation is only for past discrimination. For others, as you stated there is already help one way or other. Best talent among the poor are provided scholarships by the govt anyway.
 
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