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RSS converts 200 Indian Muslims into Hinduism.

That is what i said. As i have pointed out, i am not a religious person, but for Cultural and Racial reasons, i would prefer that India remains a Dharmic country.
Some people are allergic to the word Hindu, we can repackage the same with a different brand name. :p:

This is propagating religion if Hindu does it, it's Secularism khatre mein hai.
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I want Yogi Adityanath to start the debate like the last time.
 
Some people are allergic to the word Hindu, we can repackage the same with a different brand name. :p:


Frankly, the new terminology like "Sanatan Dharm" coined to circumnavigate Hinduism could be embarrassing for people having knowledge of Sanskrit. "Sanatan Dharm" means Forever religion. It is not the ancient name of Hinduism. It is more of a definition of religion.

The fact is that due to lack of Sword conversion in India, our ancestors never bothered with distinct labels. A disciple may visit Buddhist vihar in morning and Shiva temple in evening. Barring those of clerics, faith was malleable, thus lack of distinct categories.
 
@anonymus
An excellent analysis by you mate , I agree with what you have written,[ on the Arab,white imperialism part]

But I slightly disagree with your analysis on South Korea. :undecided:
Firstly why doesn't the same apply to the Phillipines & the CHristians in SE-Asia(Indonesia, China)
Second,Plastic Surgery is popular in South Korea because of many reasons. The most prominent ones being:-
1)The K-Pop stars(check their images online)
2) Because of peer pressure from fellow Koreans(Old & young).
[Korean society places quite a heavy emphasis on how you look]
You should google search 'plastic surgery in south korea'
I have even read news-reports where some 16 years old say that on their 18th Birthday (their parents/they want their parents) (will/to) give them a plastic surgery. :o:

I hope our nation never becomes a bunch of brain-dead Western Wannabe Zombies(culturally) like the South Koreans.

I agree with what @ranjeet Ji has said.
I strongly believe our nation should be a DHarmic Rashtra than a 'Hindu Rashtra'.
After all our nation is also the home-land of Buddhism,Jainism,Sikhism & many tribal religions. :-)

It is also the Homeland of the Parsi People who's ancestors had to leave Persia.
 
Frankly, the new terminology like "Sanatan Dharm" coined to circumnavigate Hinduism could be embarrassing for people having knowledge of Sanskrit. "Sanatan Dharm" means Forever religion. It is not the ancient name of Hinduism. It is more of a definition of religion.

The fact is that due to lack of Sword conversion in India, our ancestors never bothered with distinct labels. A disciple may visit Buddhist vihar in morning and Shiva temple in evening. Barring those of clerics, faith was malleable, thus lack of distinct categories.

The practice followed by majority people in India is Sanatana Dharama. It is more than a religion.
 
At personal level, i agree that very act of religious conversion is stupid. Rationality and Science ,while unable to disprove existence of god, have proven that a control freak vengeful God is an impossibility.

Genuine Religious conversion (99.999% are not.They are by Sword,Money,or for marriage) is symptom of grave identity crisis that a person has suffered at time of his conversion. It is pretty different from becoming Atheist or Agonist where you move out of the concept of religion.



But having said that, it is important not to overlook that religions does not have spiritual function alone. They have very strong Socio-cultural function. It is due to this function that i would prefer that most of Indian become or remain nominal or cultural Hindus.And there are important real life precedence in contemporary world to prove that i am right.

Religions, especially those who proselytize aggressively, are vehicles of ethnic imperialism.

Take Islam; It is a blatant vehicle of Arab imperialism. Every muslim has to pray facing mecca, has to undertake pilgrimage to Arabia, and in Islam Syeds ie Arab descendants of muhammad are regarded as übermensch or master race. Muslims of other ethnicity are below Arabs as demonstrated by Pakistanis in full vigour. Muslim hierarchy is Syed Arab>Arab>Persian>Turk>SE Asian>South Asian>Negro African.

A non-Arab by accepting Islam is also tactically accepting his place in Islamic social order, which is beneath Arabs. It is willful acceptance of slavery on part of a non-Arab muslim.The subservience of Pakistan to Saudi, even though having better military,higher population, and more diverse economy is a proof of that.

Another threat posed by muslims is that of security. While i am 100% sure that majority of muslims would side with India, if India goes to war with Pakistan, Bangladesh, or most of major muslim nation; i am also quite confident that if a true Islamic army led by a Caliph shows up on India's doorsteps (Bin Qasim type), most of muslims would side with Ghazis and turn on India ( this is true in case of Indo-Saudi war today ).In former case the choice was between India and a Muslim nation while in latter case it is between India and Islam.This may sound politically incorrect but it is true.



Similarly Christianity ,at least protestant and Roman Catholic, is a vehicle to white imperialism. I would prove my case by using South Korea as an example. South Korea ,since converting to Christiantiy, has started worshiping whites, literally. It is a country in which practically everyone wants to have plastic surgery in order to look white.


Christianity, even though i could not speculate whether it is cause or symptom, has left Koreans with strong case of inferiority complex; a curious case in which they look for outside approval in order to define their identity, much like Pakistanis.Probably 200 years from now they, along with Philippines, would become Christians on Par with Nordics( who too were late converts), but as of today their position is low in christian pecking order.


When i say that India should remain majority Hindu, even if just nominally/culturally,i do it because i want India to avoid fate like Korea or Pakistan ( personally i am not religious at all ).I believe that every country should stick to their native religion, so while i believe that Islam is bad for India , i also acknowledge that it is best religion for Arabs.Persians recognized it and started their own version of Islam while Christianity transformed itself into European religion by integrating itself with Roman cult of Dionysus.
What a post mate. Kudos.
 
Couldn't happen.

Debate is in Rajya Sabha.

I do not understand why BJP accept debate on contentious issues in Rajya Sabha. In Lok Sabha, it would steamroll opposition.
The NDA govt. is a minority in the rajya sabha(only 59 seats). It is one of the few places in the nation where there are more COngressman than BJPmen

The below links show the numbers in the RS
Check this out:-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajya_Sabha#Membership_by_party

I am sure that over the next 5 years, the no. of "seculars" will decrease & the number of "communals/fascists " will increase
 
@anonymus
An excellent analysis by you mate , I agree with what you have written,[ on the Arab,white imperialism part]

But I slightly disagree with your analysis on South Korea. :undecided:
Firstly why doesn't the same apply to the Phillipines & the CHristians in SE-Asia(Indonesia, China)
Second,Plastic Surgery is popular in South Korea because of many reasons. The most prominent ones being:-
1)The K-Pop stars(check their images online)
2) Because of peer pressure from fellow Koreans(Old & young).
[Korean society places quite a heavy emphasis on how you look]
You should google search 'plastic surgery in south korea'
I have even read news-reports where some 16 years old say that on their 18th Birthday (their parents/they want their parents) (will/to) give them a plastic surgery. :o:

I hope our nation never becomes a bunch of brain-dead Western Wannabe Zombies(culturally) like the South Koreans.

I agree with what @ranjeet Ji has said.
I strongly believe our nation should be a DHarmic Rashtra than a 'Hindu Rashtra'.
After all our nation is also the home-land of Buddhism,Jainism,Sikhism & many tribal religions. :-)

It is also the Homeland of the Parsi People who's ancestors had to leave Persia.



I picked up South Korea because it's national obsession/inferiority complex was easiest to prove.Koreans also make most fanatic Christians you would ever find on planet.

You could apply this to any non-Western Christian country, whether in Asia or Africa, you could find a palpable sense of European superiority among that population, as shown by mindless aping of western customs.

Leftists/Liberals may denigrate chauvinism, but the fact is that mild Chauvinism is healthy for a society. Ideal condition would be if people do not have sense of superiority at all, but if it is being practiced by some group, it is better if other group also imbibe some sort of superiority complex, else it would be harmful for psyche of that group , if it is at the receiving end of supremacist.
 
Finally they realized that Islam dosent give you much freedom and is too much intrusive into your personal life. In Hinduism, there are no hard and fast rules to follow and you are at your liberty to follow/prescribe to whatever school of thought you like. :)
 
Some people are allergic to the word Hindu, we can repackage the same with a different brand name. :p:

This is propagating religion if Hindu does it, it's Secularism khatre mein hai.
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I want Yogi Adityanath to start the debate like the last time.

Tell u what.. In the last 10 years new practises have been started by Tamil Nadu Christians. Christians in saffron dress do Padyatra (walking) from Chennai to Vedaranyam like how hindus do to Lord karthikeyan temples.. And shave their heads in their churches...

All their activities are basically hindu.. I am not sure for what they convert if they do the same over there.
 
@anonymus

But I slightly disagree with your analysis on South Korea. :undecided:
Firstly why doesn't the same apply to the Phillipines & the CHristians in SE-Asia(Indonesia, China)
Second,Plastic Surgery is popular in South Korea because of many reasons. The most prominent ones being:-
1)The K-Pop stars(check their images online)
2) Because of peer pressure from fellow Koreans(Old & young).
[Korean society places quite a heavy emphasis on how you look]
You should google search 'plastic surgery in south korea'
I have even read news-reports where some 16 years old say that on their 18th Birthday (their parents/they want their parents) (will/to) give them a plastic surgery. :o:

I hope our nation never becomes a bunch of brain-dead Western Wannabe Zombies(culturally) like the South Koreans.

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I heard that it's so common that they even have packages like "starter pack" "basics" etc :lol:
WRT Korea,, you can frequently find Buddha statues being beheaded, Buddhist shrines being destroyed, hold prayers hoping buddhist temples will collapse and so on. The place got taken over so quickly, I believe they are over 30% now, from next to nothing previously.

And it doesnt end there, they really are hardcore fanatic. they use this by sending them to places like Afghanistan (this happened over here too, a Tamil preacher was sent to AF despite being warned by the govt...got kidnapped), where no one else will go, and ask them to proselytize. This buddhist hatred doesnt end there, they send people to Gaya, and proseltyze Koreans even there (when they come for pilgrimage).Korean Christians Stir Controversy By Holding Service At Sacred Buddhist Site

The imperialism angle is well known, a big example of this was the Kudankulam protests where NGOs operating through churches orchestrated the whole movt, I think Narmada Bachao was similar too. Interestingly, Vandana Shiva (anti GMO ngo) gets funds from similar sources.

Tell u what.. In the last 10 years new practises have been started by Tamil Nadu Christians. Christians in saffron dress do Padyatra (walking) from Chennai to Vedaranyam like how hindus do to Lord karthikeyan temples.. And shave their heads in their churches...

All their activities are basically hindu.. I am not sure for what they convert if they do the same over there.
This is not new, it's a very old practice actually. It's the first step, and slowly move towards western based stuff. the method even has a name "Accomadatio" Roberto de Nobili - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Born in Montepulciano, Tuscany in September 1577, Roberto de Nobili arrived in Goa in western India on May 20, 1605. It is probable that he met here Fr Thomas Stephens, SJ, who had arrived in Goa in 1579, and was probably in the process of composing his Khristapurana.[1]

After a short stay in Cochin in Kerala, he took up residence in Madurai in Tamil Nadu in November 1606. He soon called himself a "teacher of wisdom" (தத்துவ போதகர்), and began to dress like a Sannyasin. Claiming noble parentage he approached high-caste people, and eagerly engaged in dialogue with Hindu scholars about the truths of Christianity.

De Nobili mastered Sanskrit, Telugu and Tamil languages and literature, with the help of his teacher, Shivadharma. As he expounded the Christian doctrine in Tamil he coined several words to communicate his message. He used the word "kovil" (கோவில்) for a place of worship, "arul" (அருள்) and "prasadam" (பிரசாதம்) for grace, "guru" (குரு) for priest or teacher, "Vedam" (வேதம்) for the Bible, "poosai" (பூசை) for Mass, etc.

He adopted also local Indian customs, such as shaving one's head and keeping only a tiny tuft. He wore a white dhoti and wooden sandals, to don the look of a sanyasin. Another symbol he embraced was the wearing of a three-stringed thread across the chest. He interpreted the three-stringed thread as representing the Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
 
Some people are allergic to the word Hindu, we can repackage the same with a different brand name. :p:

This is propagating religion if Hindu does it, it's Secularism khatre mein hai.
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I want Yogi Adityanath to start the debate like the last time.

here is the video
what an excellent speaker, i remember seeing him in Gorakhpur 10 years ago!:p:
 
I heard there are many Muslims in the region in question and in Rajasthan who have Muslim names but follow both Islam and Hinduism. Truly secular!! Isn't it? But now they probably are feeling the heat of acts of Muslims world over so some could have decided to revert.
Many Muslims in mathura/vrindavan are avid followers of Krishna!! Here is one example -
Raskhan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They will be declared non Muslims by Muslims anyways so god knows what this fuss is about. If force is used then the bugger's involved should be arrested and given harsh punishments.
 
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