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Rs 50k-cr naval project gets Cabinet nod( Shivalik follow on class)

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The Cabinet Committee on Security on Tuesday sanctioned the country's biggest naval project, the construction of seven stealth frigates for Rs 45,381 crore. Mazagon Dock Ltd (MDL), Mumbai , will build four of these, while Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, Kolkata (GRSE), simultaneously builds the other three.

This project, dubbed Project 17A, follows on from the earlier Project 17, in which MDL built three 5,600-tonne frigates: INS Shivalik, Satpura and Sahyadri. The first of these, the Shivalik, entered service in 2009.

The timeline for Project 17A allows each shipyard a preparatory period of two years, in which they will prepare for construction and place orders for long-lead items like engines and transmission. Then they will actually build the warship over five years. The first two frigates would be delivered by MDL and GRSE in 2022, with the rest coming in pairs at one-year intervals.

The Project 17A frigates, while superficially similar to those build under Project 17, will pack significantly more punch with more advanced weaponry. The new vessels will be fitted with BrahMos cruise missile for land attack, and the new Indo-Israeli Long Range Surface-to-Air Missile (LR-SAM) that can shoot down incoming anti-ship missiles.

The main advance in Project 17A will be the "modular" method with which the frigates will be constructed. Traditional shipbuilding involved welding a hull together and launching it into water, after which swarms of craftsmen painstakingly work in the warship's cramped compartments, installing propulsion gear, electrically equipment, weapons, sensors and hundreds of kilometres of pipes and wiring.

In contrast, modular construction is like a giant Lego game. The ship is built in convenient 300-ton blocks that are then assembled together into a complete warship. Each block is fabricated in a well-lit, ventilated workshop with multi-level access, and is pre-fitted with the piping, electrical wiring and fitments that run through a ship. Giant cranes then bring the massive blocks together, each one dovetailing precisely with its neighboring block, every wire, pipe and compartment coming together in perfect alignment.

Modular construction results in better build quality and is expected to bring down the build time from 72 to just 60 months.

This method, being new, has required a foreign design partner. It has also required an extensive renovation of both MDL and GRSE, with each shipyard spending Rs 800-1,000 crore on modular workshops, with Goliath cranes, and workshops with sliding roofs from where 300-tonne blocks can be lifted out.


Project 17A is vital for executing the navy's Maritime Capability Perspective Plan (MCPP), which envisions a 160-ship navy, with 90 capital warships, i.e. aircraft carriers, destroyers, frigates and corvettes. The navy is currently 20 vessels short of this target, with major shortfalls in destroyers and frigates.

To add numbers quickly, the navy had pressed for building the first two vessels of Project 17A abroad in the technology partners' shipyard. The United Progressive Alliance government overruled this.
 
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dia's government has cleared a $8 billion plan to build the country's most advanced warships, defence sources said, just months after ordering new submarines to close the gap with theChinese navy in the Indian Ocean.

Since taking over last year, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has signalled his resolve to build a strong military after years of neglect that military planners say has leftIndia unable to fight a two-front war against China and Pakistan.

India's navy has been rattled in recent months after Chinese submarines docked in Sri Lanka, just off its southern coast, underlining the growing reach of the Chinese navy after years of staying closer to its shores. Modi summoned a meeting of the cabinet committee on security on Monday to approve construction of seven frigates equipped with stealth features to avoid easy detection, a defence ministry source said.

A news daily said the government had also approved six nuclear-powered submarines for a further $8 billion. The defence source said he had no knowledge of the nuclear submarine programme, which traditionally has been kept under wraps.

The frigates in a programme called Project-17A will be built at government shipyards in Mumbai and Kolkata, in a boost for Modi's Make in India campaign to build a domestic defence industrial base and reduce dependence on expensive imports that have made India the world's biggest arms market. "Project 17-A was awaiting cabinet clearance since 2012," the source said, adding the Modi government was moving quickly on a project seen as of critical national importance.

The source said the government expects to sign a contract with the shipyards within the month. Another source in the navy confirmed the cabinet clearance but said it would take a decade or even longer for all the ships to be built, even if the shipyards were to start construction immediately.

China's naval forays in the Indian Ocean have exposed the Indian navy's weak undersea defences, which are down to 13 ageing diesel-electric submarines after a string of accidents including one in 2013 in which 18 sailors were killed.

In October, Modi's administration approved fast-tracking the tender process to build six submarines in collaboration with a foreign builder. "This government is showing signs of urgency, but there is a lot of ground to be covered," said former vice admiral Arun Kumar Singh. "All our programmes are running way behind schedule and with a huge amount of cost over-runs."
India clears $8 billion warships project to counter Chinese navy | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis
 
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Which are the comparable ships of Shivalik class? Isn't $1.04b too much for a Frigate?

It is for something built in India. Not by global standards.

Egypt recently signed a deal to buy FREMM Frigate which is similar to Project 17A for 1.1 Billion $.
 
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It is for something built in India. Not by global standards.

Egypt recently signed a deal to buy FREMM Frigate which is similar to Project 17A for 1.1 Billion $.

I thought Shivalik class of ships are made in Russia but for an indigenous, made in India ship this price is okay as most of the money will remain in the country.
 
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By international standards Shivalik is a destroyer
Then why shouldn't call it a Destroyer? What is stopping us to call it a destroyer or does it serve us any purpose understating it's capability?
 
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Then why shouldn't call it a Destroyer? What is stopping us to call it a destroyer or does it serve us any purpose understating it's capability?

Understating the capability helps us in keeping things under the radar

Hence
a 3000 Ton Kamorta is classified a Corvette

a 6200 Ton Shivalik is classified a Frigate

a 8000 Ton Kolkata is classified a Destroyer

Had these ships been inducted in yr 2001, then

kamorta would have been called a Frigate,
Shivalik would have been called a Destroyer and Kolkata would have been called a Cruiser
 
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Then why shouldn't call it a Destroyer? What is stopping us to call it a destroyer or does it serve us any purpose understating it's capability?

Becuz we want our enemies to think we are weak & not strong

No its not. Please don't spread disinformation.

Shivalik is 6,000 tonnes so yes it will be considered a destroyer in many countries @Abingdonboy can also confirm this
 
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I thought Shivalik class of ships are made in Russia but for an indigenous, made in India ship this price is okay as most of the money will remain in the country.

You are talking about Talwar class and confusing it with Shivalik. Non efficient spending of money is never ok, but I guess we do not have much choice as of today.

But its about time these shipyards are privatised.
 
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No its not. Please don't spread disinformation.
How is such a statement disinformation?

In terms of what the P-17/As can do (ASW, ASuW, AAD) and with huge endurance the P-17/As would most certainly be classified as destroyers by most navies out there.

Then why shouldn't call it a Destroyer? What is stopping us to call it a destroyer or does it serve us any purpose understating it's capability?

Nothing is stopping the IN but there is a destroyer class above the P-17/A i.e. the P-15s, just because the P-17/A Frigates are multirole and exceptionally large by global standards doesn't mean the IN needs to change their designation policy. They set the classes and the capabilities the ships are then designed to that, it is not the other way around.

I thought Shivalik class of ships are made in Russia but for an indigenous, made in India ship this price is okay as most of the money will remain in the country.
Nope, the Shivlaiks and their follow-ons (P-17As) were designed and made in India.
 
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