Hi,
Here is an interesting post from NDTV
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/despite-flaws-india-to-induct-tejas-mark-1a-fighter-1224355
and just a part of the news----for full news click on the link
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Each squadron of the Tejas Mark-1A will have about 16 to 18 aircraft.
NEW DELHI: The government has decided to induct at least seven squadrons of the made-in-India Tejas Mark 1-A Light Combat Aircraft or LCA into the Indian Air Force, to make up for a shortage of fighters.
The Tejas Mark 1-A is slightly more proficient than the first-cut home-made LCA, the Tejas, but the aircraft still has some flaws. For one, there are doubts about its ability to carry the required payload of weapons. Also, its Indian-made radar needs to be replaced with an Israeli radar.
The IAF has agreed to induct the Tejas Mark 1-A as it urgently needs more than 120 lightweight fighters to be used for air defence and to intercept enemy aircraft. A squadron has about 16 to 18 aircraft each.
It had earlier agreed to induct 40 Tejas', an aircraft that India's national auditor CAG said had severe flaws with "shortfalls in meeting the engine thrust and other parameters such as weight of the aircraft, fuel capacity, pilot protection from front against 7.62 mm bullets."
The IAF agreed to induct the flawed aircraft to keep the Tejas programme alive.
Mastan Bhai you are such a senior member with different angle approach and still beating the bush. Its called paid media, because just google the same phrase IAF induct lca with flaws and you will find ten's of news and article almost same, with slight variation, because it was the article written by some paid jurno for the Reuter. A good hint is that SAAB still have office in New Delhi and still trying hard to kill LCA Tejas MK-2 by
1. Offering SAAB for make in India
2. Offering help in AMCA design.
3. Offering help in Naval LCA, but finding hard for the SEA Grippen, because don't have any carrier or carrier operation test field.
I think it has been discussed in details in PDF and you are posting old news.
1. There is a difference between the Flaws and Shortfall
2. The report is based on the CAG Report, which is just an audition authority, and not any technical authority.
3. Just one example of the flaws -- Lack of countermeasures to protect from the enemy. Which means the lack of Internal Jammer. -- Now for the gignos its ok, but for detail and clear explaination -- No fighter aircraft in the whole IAF except Mig-29UPG have internal Jammer including the Air Superiority fighter jet Su-30MKI. And at the time of the designing the LCA the technology do not permits the size of the jammer to be fitted inside the LCA, and it does not means it won't have any jammer, rather in the shape of POD, and when IAF argue, that the use of POD will use one of the hardpoint, than ADA offered Twin Arm Pylon.
Another example, the lack of AESA Radar -- So which Aircraft in IAF inventory have AESA at the moment ?
So what is the Fuss all about.
LCA was supposed to be something worth debating but it ended with amusement of critics. HAL should have done more than it. Indeed the HAL has sabotaged the LCA program and not just the aircraft but the time and money as well. The recent Boeing decision to leave the HAL can be analyzed in context of HAL credibility and capabilities.
LCA ended with amusement of critics or you are making yourself the laughing stock by saying such things.
First do go to the LCA thread and read the subject before commenting and fear you have zero and I say zero knowledge of aeronautics or any fighter plane. For you its the
ADA who have designed, certified by CELEMAC the LCA TEJAS not the HAL. Hal is just the manufacturing entity for the LCA Tejas and presently manufacturing SU-30MKI at the rate of 19-20 per year, developed and manufacturing Dhruva, Sitara, Hawk IJT, LCH, Rudra etc etc.
The performance of LCA Tejas SP-7 was great, and was able to showcase many of its abilities like short take off and landing, easeless handling capabilities with FBW, slow flight pass, quick 360 turn with 350m and around agility.
The maneuver shown in the Airshow is different than the tactical maneuver and only the jignos chest thumps or compares the capabilities on the basis of airshow performance.
Your worth mentioning of the Boeing decision to leave HAL have a flawed why you didn't mentioned it was given to the TATA Aerospace again Indian, the idea of the LCA project was not to build this fighter plane, rather build the whole ecosystem.
We all know that initially the program was supposed to be develop a potent aircraft and the same was claimed to be inducted in IAF though IAF rejected to fly this unproven bird till today just because they knew what they are going to deal with.
The initial idea was proposed by ADA to build the sucesson of Folk GNAT Sucessor, but MOD give the authority and responsibility to the ADA, for you knowledge the ADA have to first do the premilinary present the report, that the technology exists in the country to develop the fighter plane, which was intended to replace the MIG-21. However due to delay caused by various factors including the economical recession time, and the sanctions led on the India aftermath of the nuclear tests, India upgraded MIG-21 and bis to BISON standard, which will be going to retire starting from 2019. Now for the IAF rejected to fly this bird till today question stands are you still sleeping or want to live in illusion. LCA Tejas MK1 have been officially inducted in IAF, and presently the IAF pilot are getting training on the single LCA Tejas MK1 of the IOC-2 standard. Pls provide source for IAF rejecting LCA Tejas, because we all know the facts such as
1. IAF have given the order for 20 IOC-2 standard
2. IAF is ready to induct 100 MK-1A with AESA, Aerial refuel , and BVR capabilities in short fully BVR capable + LGB for CAS capable from the 1st day of FOC.
On other hands, some of our Indian friends were arguing the same decision of IAF as they are biased and love to have 4.5++ aircrafts like Rafale and kick backs of top brass. Opposing the HAL and her well wishers, the few claimed the same decision as to choose the best for IAF and as LCA lacks a lot, therefore, it cannot fit into equation.
Again question comes are you blind or trying to act like that who cannot see that Rafale is Medium wt category, which by virtue of its long range, and combat radius is meant for the deap strike role, SEAD and DEAD role, in short to breach the enemy airspace, when all its air defence forces are intact, and LCA Tejas is not for that role. LCA tejas role is Interceptor, point defence and CAS for which it is replacing MIG-21Bison. For Airsuperiority India already have two very potent bird Su-30MKI, and Mig 29UPG of SMT standard, and for Multirole Mirrage 2000 UPG.
It also comes into arguments that IAF was forced to swallow the LCA. However, if we come up with claim that LCA lacks a lot hence not good enough to be inducted by IAF then HAL should have done more than this and the modification and production of the aircraft which it promised but never fulfilled which was the requirement of her own IAF. LCA should have been something more, something worth loving for its capabilities rather being just pulled off the ground and do some regular stunts despite being praised like the one and only in its class. Being aircraft lovers, we all were expecting the LCA as a potent, active and intelligent aircraft yet it just flew and does some normal things even less to par with 3rd Generation. The future as claimed about LCA is indeed very interesting and full of hopes like it would be proven much in tech, reliability and performance so also will be inducted by IAF in large numbers though nobody knows what would be the next but the best can be suggested by present which tells a lot about future.
For your argument that IAF was forced to swallow the LCA all three i.e ADA, MOD, and IAF have zeroed on one conclussion 120 LCA MK1, so keep reading the yellow gerno articles but for your sake LCA MK2 with F-414INS engine with superior thrust, more refined aerodynamics, better armament, sensors and its fusion is been worked upon. And in all its not just the end of the LCA, even if we consider the indegenous order, then 120 MK1A plus MK2 order for IAF, 40 MK-2 Naval for INAf and 80+ trainer order its a huge potential in india alone. So don't live in any illusion its a fact, that LCA will be inducted in numbers for its second tier defence. and for the future we have AMCA project. Let things keep accelerating, then you will definately say UH AH WALLAH.
Even if the comparison is needed then I will go on only singly thing about take off which proves a lot about power and performance. Tejas left breaks, moved ahead on ground, left the ground little earlier than JFT but still needed the low fly to attain the speed to go vertical or climb which is hell lot of story that can tell what this bird lacks in power and performance category. On other hand, JFT is on the run way little late than Tejas but as left the ground went straight to vertical and most interesting part was, still the landing gear is down which indeed causes the more drag as Mastan Khan also mentioned and if a pilot want it a quick climb would have pulled the gear up as soon as left the ground to attain the speed and power but JFT did not and still gone vertical with gear down so apparently JFT still possess the more power that not showed yet.
He He for the T/W ratio the short take off within 10 Sec is more than enough to say and for the low fly to attain the speed, lolz its called low fly pass, but for you as I said earlier its just the airshow, and LCA have already proven when she was able to fly with full load, even when the critics says its still over wt so total MTOW of 13.5 Tons from the short runway of the high altitude airstrip of LEH, where F-16, F-18, Grippen fails.
The Bahrain attempt was only to shift the LCA off the ventilator as it was almost pushed to death by HAL due to her negligence and incompetence. The fighter craft lovers including me, were expecting it to be excellent not normal, not just enough, not like just OK but indeed excellent just because of the all that wait, claims and the cost expenditure against the money of Indian Tax Payers yet HAL not just failed as usual but caused embarrassment. IAF still rejects what is made in India by HAL but agreed what is going to be built in future which is not currently the credibility of HAL LCA at all.
LOLZ thats the great comment of the Indian Tax payer. Bhai mere HAL is only manufacturing and its the ADA which is the designing agency, So can you name the country who was able to build the 4th gen fighter plane with 100+ Institutions setup + Aerospace ecosystem with the parallel development of Turbofan engine plus the prototype building with the budget of mere 1.2 + 2 Billion. Check for instance China with superior industrial base the pumping of 100 billion for the Indegenous turbofan Engine or the Dassault with the decades of experience of fighter plane building and Thales for the Engine design and building took 20 years for the Rafale plus 10 billion for the Turbofan engine. Its the self reliance and the indegenous product like LCA which will safe the tax payer rather than the import house in defence sector.