Just one battle? Mongols fought Han for centuries, won only once, but were totally annihilated that they ceased to be a force again.
The current debate was revolving around the sacking of capitals by barbarians. Your colleague from the information ministry presented a narrative that this never happened in China, or at the minimum was trying to steer the debate in that direction.
Do try to comprehend the current issue, to what i'm replying to.
Btw, this "won only once, but were totally annihilated", i presume it includes that raid where they threw the reigning dynasty
(Song) of the throne and started Mongol Yuan dynasty? The one where they subjugated whole of China? That victory? I'd say that counts.
If such lies are your modus operandi, we will not be discussing any further, as it is beneath me to deal with charlatans. In this case, you can carry on circle-jerking with your pals that thank your posts, blissfully unaware they reveal their own stupidity with it.
There's not one of you here that is fit for an intelligent debate except perhaps
@Grand Historian (although he is fishy-but at least he admits his mistakes) and
@magic-007 .
That's Greek architecture, lol. Why post building from 1900's? We talking ancient Rome vs Han dynasty.
That is colonial Greco-Roman inspired architecture yes. The argument was, there are no tangible traces of that culture, that it's Arab and Chinese
(lol), or so whoever the "Taiwanese" i quoted was saying. Ironic that such a classic symbol of that culture then resides in Taipei.
I thought it was self explanatory why i posted that.
In no way i would be such a nincompoop to deny Chinese influence on European progress.
However, that does not go both ways, Chinese are pretty adamant about their selfsufficiency and greatness of their own culture, so much so they isolated themselves from the world. Well, as it turned out, they were wrong. They weren't the greatest, the best, the most advanced etc etc....as was the popular line of thought in China of those days and aparently today and which was the catalyst in deciding that no outside influence is needed.
A little bit of humility would go a long way for you Chinese. Still, after millenia you have not learned despite that false hubris knocking you down several times in history. Think about that. If you need examples, think of paper ,gunpowder, compass, what others achieved with it
(expanded on it to achieve mass printed press, evolution of firearms, domination of the seas), when you Chinese were busy locking yourself up in your little imaginary bubble of greatness.
Mandate of heaven doesn't sound so heavenly now, does it?
Let me just say at the end, i respect ancient Chinese wisdom very very much, but at the same time i have conflicts in reconciling this wisdom with the lack of foresight (
often associated with wisdom) that drove them into self induced isolation and ultimately stagnation.