Rohingya!

[Banglar Bir]

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[Signalian]

Go to any street in Pakistan and ask anyone and you will know what people of Pakistan want

People of Pakistan want rights for Kashmiris, Palestinians, Chechens, Rohingyas etc however Pakistan is already fighting a war and paying a heavy price. Whether its about taking sides with/against China or proposing to send relief/Army for Rohingyas, Pakistan must fight and finish its own war first then look towards others to help them, almost like the life jacket in the aircraft, wear it yourself first then help others.

 

[MultaniGuy]

People of Pakistan want rights for Kashmiris, Palestinians, Chechens, Rohingyas etc however Pakistan is already fighting a war and paying a heavy price. Whether its about taking sides with/against China or proposing to send relief/Army for Rohingyas, Pakistan must fight and finish its own war first then look towards others to help them, almost like the life jacket in the aircraft, wear it yourself first then help others.

Why should Pakistanis be worried about Palestinians.

What have the Palestinians done for Kashmiris's rights?

Lets worry about Pakistan first.

 

[MultaniGuy]

You obviously live on another plant. The real world does not work the way you want it to. I'm sorry to break this news to you. It's 2017 ,Ummah doesn't exist. It's a dog eat dog world.

I agree with Desert Fox.

Pakistan First, before worrying about other peoples and nations.

The Rohingya crisis is not Pakistan's problem.

If the Buddhists don't want Muslims in their country, then the Muslims have no choice but to leave.

 

[Banglar Bir]

Watch: Yet another Rohingya village in Maungdaw set on fire
Amanur Rahman Rony
Published at 11:12 PM September 13, 2017

The Myanmar Army used loudspeakers on last Tuesday, warning Rohingya villagers for the final time to leave the area. Later, the army, according to witnesses, set several small villages on fire.
The Myanmar army allegedly set yet another Rohingya village on fire on Wednesday. The blazing inferno at Dorabil area of northern Maungdawwas seen from across the border.

Rohingya refugees, who are staying in Teknaf after escaping the ongoing violence said, the village wasset on fire around 6pm on Wednesday.
Two Rohingya men, Md Zohar and Abdul Motaleb barely escaped with their lives, after their village was burned down.

The survivors recounted their experience: “We left everything behind and ran for our lives. The Purba Para has been burned to the ground, and the Pashchim Para was burning at the time of our escape.”

The Myanmar Army used loudspeakers on last Tuesday, warning Rohingya villagers for the final time to leave the area. Later, the army, according to witnesses, set several small villages on fire.

The Dorabil village, located near the Bangladesh-Myanmar border, was set on fire on Wednesday evening, forcing its Rohingya residents to cross over to Bangladesh illegally.

Blazing fire was also seen near the banks of Naf River on last Tuesday. The Rohigyas initially gathered in the Shahporir Dwip, and later brought to Teknaf by boats. The border security forces and law enforcers of Myanmar did not bar the fishing boats carrying Rohingyas from crossing into Bangladesh.

There are allegations of Bangladesh Coast Guard destroying 6-7 fishing trawlers since last Sunday, for illegally bringing in Rohingya refugees into Bangladesh. But, the fishing boats continue to ferry Rohingyas into the country, despite the complaints. Hundreds of Rohingyas are arriving in Bangladesh through the Naf River at daytime and throughout the night.

Members of the Border Guard Bangladesh were seen patrolling the banks of Naf River, but they did not bar Rohingya refugees from entering the country.

Myanmar claims, a so called rebel group attacked police check-posts in the Rakhine state of Myanmar on August 24, leading to the death of 12 policemen. The Myanmar Army retaliated with a disproportionate show of force against the Rohingya community. Thousands of refugees, who fled to Bangladesh since August 25, described widespread human rights violations committed by Myanmar security forces, including mass murder, rape and arson. According to the United Nations, around 300,000 refugees have entered Bangladesh since the army crackdown, but the the number could be much higher.

This article was first published on the Bangla Tribune
http://www.dhakatribune.com/world/south-asia/2017/09/13/another-rohingya-village-fire/

 

[MultaniGuy]

Horrible, but this is not Pakistan's problem.

 

[Banglar Bir]

‘I have met the king of Bangladesh’
Abdul Aziz, Cox's Bazar
Published at 05:25 PM September 13, 2017
Last updated at 07:40 PM September 13, 2017

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, along with her sister Sheikh Rehana and various ministers, meet Anas at Kutupalong refugee camp on Tuesday September 12, 2017 | Focus Bangla

Anas was shot in his nose, arm and leg by the Myanmar army who thought him dead | Focus Bangla

Anas recounts his ordeal to the media at Kutupalong refugee camp on Tuesday September 12, 2017 | Focus Bangla
A 10-year-old Rohingya boy found more concern and care from the head of government of Bangladesh than from his own country
Anas Mia is a 10-year-old boy. He is also an orphan who had to witness the murder of his parents at the hands of the Myanmar army when they were on the cusp of fleeing to Bangladesh. The Rohingya child escaped, but not before he was shot in the nose, arm and leg. The shock of the moment forced him to pass out, which is what saved him from being reunited with his family.

With the other Rohingya refugees, Anas found his way to a refugee camp in Ukhiya in Bangladesh. Over the 10 days he has been in the camp, he has found his grandparents, and learned that his three siblings were also shot dead by the army. He is being treated by the Medecins Sans Frontieres and is recovering from his bullet wounds.

Anas met Bangladesh’s Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina on Tuesday.
Also Read- ‘If we can feed 160m, we can also feed 700,000 Rohingya refugees’
For a 10-year-old whose country has all but declared war on an entire ethnic group, meeting the head of government of the country which is sheltering as many people as the country can was beyond his imagination.

The prime minister and the Rohingya refugee – two orphans who could not be any more different – shared a moment of solemn empathy at Kutupalong camp on Tuesday.

After meeting PM Hasina, Anas’s mood changed. His demeanour grew livelier. His enthusiasm shone through as he said: “I have met the king of Bangladesh and she inquired about me. I never imagined I would speak to a king. I told her I was shot in the nose, arm and leg. I told her about suffering in the jungles on an empty stomach.

“When I told her about losing my parents, she said she lost her parents too. She promised to try her level best to send us back to our homes in Myanmar.”
http://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/nation/2017/09/13/met-king-bangladesh/

 

[I.R.A]

You obviously live on another plant. The real world does not work the way you want it to. I'm sorry to break this news to you. It's 2017 ,Ummah doesn't exist. It's a dog eat dog world.

Ummah may not exist on PDF, should I care? Some concepts are bigger than self interests and fears, hard for many to understand and digest ............. I am perfectly capable of understanding what Ummah means and what it entails. My understanding helps me look beyond oil kings and sectarian Mullahs ........ for many (Muslims) Ummah encompasses Muslims only, but for other many like me Ummah is the whole humanity. The day you can wipe out the whole humanity I will stop believing in Ummah.

People of Pakistan want rights for Kashmiris, Palestinians, Chechens, Rohingyas etc however Pakistan is already fighting a war and paying a heavy price. Whether its about taking sides with/against China or proposing to send relief/Army for Rohingyas, Pakistan must fight and finish its own war first then look towards others to help them, almost like the life jacket in the aircraft, wear it yourself first then help others.

It is not necessary to send Army, nothing should stop us from standing with the oppressed, Pakistan government should allow its relief workers to travel there and help out those helpless people. If we can send aid to China during Earth quakes and floods, then Rohingya are more deserving of our help.

 

[war&peace]

People of Pakistan want rights for Kashmiris, Palestinians, Chechens, Rohingyas etc however Pakistan is already fighting a war and paying a heavy price. Whether its about taking sides with/against China or proposing to send relief/Army for Rohingyas, Pakistan must fight and finish its own war first then look towards others to help them, almost like the life jacket in the aircraft, wear it yourself first then help others.

That in fact is not correct and over simplification to deal all of them in a single sentence. Over generalised and illogical approach I must say.

Pakistan is not helping Checkens and nothing is going on in Chechnya at the moment, it has an establishment govt for more than 10 years and working properly...so the red-herring # 1 got shot down

Pakistan supports Palestine like most of the countries in the world and it is limited to the diplomatic support. Pakistan is not involved militarily there at all. Iran is helping Palestinians militarily.
Kashmir is an unfinished agenda of the partition and the UN has recognised so Pakistan supports Kashmiri freedom struggle.
For Rohingya, no one is asking for sending Pakistan army to Burma rather people want the diplomatic support and humanitarian aid. Also impose sanctions on the oppressive regime through UNO to stop the state terrorism against a minority.

Pakistan is fighting a war because of a wrong decision by an idiot rat and an absconder poopy who is living in UAE. If he didn't bent over and join a WoT under abominable conditions, Pakistan won't be facing any such issues today. There was no terrorism in Pakistan before that. So let's not mix things up and it would be like treating the cancer with Alvedon (Panadol).

Why can't we force an oppressive regime to stop the genocide of a whole minority?

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Horrible, but this is not Pakistan's problem.

No it's the Muslim Ummah's Problem.

Oh Wait....

 

[Banglar Bir]

Rohingya crisis: How much power does Aung San Suu Kyi really have?
By Jonathan Head South East Asia correspondent
13 September 20I7

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Image caption For 20 years the military and Aung San Suu Kyi were bitterly opposed, but must work together

The huge exodus of Rohingya from Myanmar's Rakhine State, and the brutal tactics of the security forces, have stirred up strong condemnations of the Nobel Laureate and de-facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, who has defended her government's actions as a legitimate response to terrorism. As it emerges Ms Suu Kyi will miss next week's UN General Assembly debate, how much power does she really have inside her country?

Aung San Suu Kyi's formal title is "state counsellor". It is a position she created to get around a clause in the constitution - aimed specifically at her - that bars anyone with a foreign spouse or foreign children from the presidency.

Ms Suu Kyi is by far the most popular political figure in Myanmar and she led her National League for Democracy (NLD) to a landslide victory in the 2015 election. She makes most of the important decisions in her party and cabinet. She also holds the position of foreign minister.

In practice, the actual president, Htin Kyaw, answers to her.
Profile: Aung San Suu Kyi
The Rohingya crisis: Why won't Aung San Suu Kyi act?
Myanmar conflict: Aung San Suu Kyi 'must step in'
Myanmar: What sparked latest violence in Rakhine?
The constitution was drafted by the previous military government, which had been in power in one form or another since 1962. It was approved in a questionable referendum in 2008. At the time, it was not recognised by the NLD or Ms Suu Kyi.

It was the key to the military's declared plan to ensure it still had a guiding role in what it called a "discipline-flourishing democracy". Under it, the armed forces are guaranteed one quarter of the seats in parliament.

Image copyright GETTY IMAGES
Image caption Although Htin Kyaw is Myanmar's president, in practice he answers to Aung San Suu Kyi

The military retains control of three vital ministries - home affairs, defence and border affairs. That means it also controls the police.

Six out of 11 seats on the powerful National Defence and Security Council, which has the power to suspend democratic government, are military appointees.

Former military personnel occupy many top civil positions. The military also still has significant business interests. Defence spending is still 14% of the budget, more than health and education combined.

For more than 20 years the military and Aung San Suu Kyi were bitterly opposed. She spent 15 of those years under house arrest.

Image copyright AFP
Image caption Ms Suu Kyi addresses supporters after her temporary release from house arrest in 1995

After the election, they had to find ways to work together. She had the mandate. The generals had the real power.

They still disagreed on important issues, like amending the constitution, which she wants, and the pace of peace talks with the various ethnic armies that have been fighting the government from Myanmar's borders for the past 70 years.

But they agreed on the need to reform and improve the economy and the need for stability - "rule of law" is Ms Suu Kyi's favourite mantra - at a time when rapid change has been stirring up social tension.
Increasing hostility
But on the issue of the Rohingya, Ms Suu Kyi must tread carefully. There is little public sympathy for the Rohingya.

Much of the Burmese population agrees with the official view that they are not citizens of Myanmar, but illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, even though many Rohingya families have been in the country for generations.

Media caption Watch: Who are the Rohingya?
That hostility has increased markedly after the attacks on police posts by militants from the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army in October last year and this August.

Myanmar: Who are the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army?
Inside Rakhine State, the local Buddhist population are even more hostile. Conflict between them and the Rohingya - who they refer to as Bengalis - goes back many decades.

Many Rakhine Buddhists believe they will eventually become a minority, and fear that their identity will be destroyed. The Rakhine nationalist party, the ANP, dominates the local assembly, one of the few not controlled by Ms Suu Kyi's NLD.

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Image caption Gen Mn Aung Hlaing has made it clear he has little sympathy for the Rohingyas

There is strong sympathy for them among the police - almost half of whose officers are Rakhine Buddhist - and the military.

The military is the real power in northern Rakhine State, along the border with Bangladesh, where access is tightly controlled.

And the powerful armed forces commander, Gen Min Aung Hlaing, has made it clear he has little sympathy for the Rohingya.
Independent media
He has referred to the current "clearance" operations there as necessary to finish a problem that dates back to 1942, a period of shifting front lines between Japanese and British forces that saw bitter communal fighting between Rohingya and Rakhine Buddhists.

The military sees itself now as fighting an externally funded terrorist movement, a view shared by much of the public.

It seems to be applying its "four cuts" strategy, used in other conflict areas, in which soldiers destroy and terrorise communities thought to be giving support to insurgencies.

Media caption Who is burning down Rohingya villages?

The media is also a factor. One of the biggest changes in Myanmar over the past five years has been the proliferation of new, independent media outlets, and the dramatic growth of mobile phone and internet use, in a country that scarcely had landlines a decade ago.
Moral authority?
But very few media have shown what is happening inside Bangladesh, or the suffering of the Rohingya. Most have focused instead on displaced Buddhists and Hindus inside Rakhine, who are far fewer in number. The popularity of social media has allowed disinformation and hate speech to spread quickly.

Myanmar conflict: Fake photos inflame tension
So Aung San Suu Kyi has very little power over events in Rakhine State. And speaking out in support of the Rohingya would almost certainly prompt an angry reaction from Buddhist nationalists.

Whether, with her immense moral authority, it might start to change public prejudice against the Rohingya, is an open question. She has calculated that it is a gamble not worth taking. She is known to be very stubborn once she has made up her mind.

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Image caption Ms Suu Kyi has been widely condemned internationally over the Rohingya crisis

Is there a risk that the military might step in and replace her, should she challenge what they are doing in Rakhine? They have the power to do so. In the current climate, they might even have some public support.

But it is worth remembering that the current power-sharing arrangements with the NLD are more or less what the military was aiming for when it announced its Seven Stage Roadmap to Democracy back in 2003.

At the time this was dismissed as a sham. But it turns out Myanmar's political development over the next 14 years followed that roadmap closely. Even after its own political party was trounced in 2015's election, the military remains by far the most powerful institution in the country.

Only this time, it has Aung San Suu Kyi as a shield, to be battered by the international outcry over its actions.

 

[Desert Fox]

Ummah may not exist on PDF, should I care? Some concepts are bigger than self interests and fears, hard for many to understand and digest ............. I am perfectly capable of understanding what Ummah means and what it entails. My understanding helps me look beyond oil kings and sectarian Mullahs ........ for many (Muslims) Ummah encompasses Muslims only, but for other many like me Ummah is the whole humanity. The day you can wipe out the whole humanity I will stop believing in Ummah.

Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Yemen were thrown under the bus by fellow Muslim countries and nobody batted an eyelid. Cruel world.

Ummah hasn't come to the rescue of the Syrian Muslim girls who are being pimped and prostituted across the Arab world. Or the girls who are being sold into sexual slavery, and yes that includes Sunni Muslim girls. Go see how wealthy gulf Arabs are visiting these Syrian refugee camps to exploit the Syrian children. Rather that country is now a battle ground of Saudi and Iran, our fellow Ummah brethren.

Ummah hasn't done a thing for those Yemeni children who are dying from malnutrition because Saudi Arabia, our ally, has imposed a sea and air blockade on that country.

Ummah didn't do a damn thing for Iraq, in fact they assisted in the destruction of that country (again, refer to the example of our "ally" Saudia).

And of course there's Libya, Kashmir, Xinjiang (Urumqi) etc where Millions of Muslims are impoverished, persecuted, suffering from occupation, disenfranchisement but no Ummah has come to their assistance.

Because Ummah does not exist. I dare you to ask the average Egyptian or Jordanian or Lebanese or Morrocan what Kashmir is or where its located on the map and they won't be able to tell you a damn thing about it. At most some of them might say it's a type of cloth.

If you are a true believer of the concept of Ummah then you would oppose Pakistans alliance with China because of how they treat the Muslims of Xinjiang.

China Bans Muslim Names In Xinjiang

I don't know about you but I'm not ready to sacrifice Pakistan on the altar of Ummah. Sorry.

@The Sandman @Psychic

 

[war&peace]

Also aren't the Rohingya basically ethnic Bangalis from Bangladesh? Why can't Bangladesh just take them back?

Would Pakistanis like it if forty million Hindus were forced into Pakistan?

These are serious questions and if anyone can prove me wrong than I will accept that I was wrong and join with them in their rightful views.

Acc. to Bengalis, they are not ethnic Bengali it is the propaganda by the terrorists. Furthermore, they have been living there for centuries. And why the libtards have to turn this issue into an opportunity to bash the Muslim ummah while it is clearly a humanitarian issue.... are they not humans? Do we have to stand by the oppressor or just a mere spectator and watch the terrorists kill innocent people? If you don't raise your voice today for oppressed people, no one will raise voice for you either when an aggressor will persecute you and that will be really painful.

 

[Banglar Bir]

Foreign Diplomats listens to the Horrific Genocide carried out on the Rohingyas
শরণার্থী শিবিরে রোহিঙ্গা দুর্ভোগের কাহিনী শুনলেন বিদেশি কূটনীতিকরা
রাকিব হাসনাতবিবিসি বাংলা, ঢাকা
১৩ সেপ্টেম্বর ২০১৭

Image caption রোহিঙ্গা শিশুর সাথে কথা বলছেন একজন কূটনীতিক।

মিয়ানমার থেকে প্রাণভয়ে পালিয়ে আসা রোহিঙ্গাদের দেখতে ঢাকায় কর্মরত প্রায় অর্ধশত বিদেশি কূটনীতিক ও বিভিন্ন সংস্থার প্রতিনিধিরা বুধবার কক্সবাজার সফর করেছেন।

সেখানে তারা শরণার্থী ক্যাম্পে ঘরে ঘরে গিয়ে নতুন করে আসা শরণার্থীদের দুর্ভোগের কাহিনী শোনেন এবং কথা বলে পুরনোদের সাথেও।

সেখানে উপস্থিত একজন কূটনীতিক বলেন, রোহিঙ্গাদের নিজ দেশে ফিরিয়ে নেয়ার বিষয়টি নিয়ে তারা তাদের নিজ নিজ সরকারের সাথে আলোচনা করবেন।

কূটনীতিকরা পরে সীমান্ত সংলগ্ন এলাকাও পরিদর্শন করেন।

মূলত রোহিঙ্গাদের নিজ দেশে ফিরিয়ে নিতে আন্তর্জাতিক পর্যায়ে মিয়ানমারের ওপর চাপ তৈরির যে চেষ্টা বাংলাদেশ শুরু করেছে তারই অংশ হিসেবে বিদেশি কূটনীতিকদের বিশাল এই দলটিকে কক্সবাজার নিয়ে যায় বাংলাদেশের পররাষ্ট্র মন্ত্রণালয়।

সকালে একটি বিশেষ বিমানে করে তাদের নেয়া হয় কক্সবাজারে।

যুক্তরাষ্ট্র, যুক্তরাজ্য, ইওরোপীয় ইউনিয়ন, রাশিয়া, চীন, ভারত, সৌদি আরবের রাষ্ট্রদূতরা এই সফরে সামিল হয়েছিলেন।

বাংলাদেশের পররাষ্ট্র মন্ত্রী, প্রতিমন্ত্রী ও সচিবসহ ঊর্ধ্বতন কর্মকর্তাসহ বিদেশি কূটনীতিকরা এরপর সড়কপথে যান কুতুপালং শরণার্থী ক্যাম্পে।

Image caption কূটনীতিকরা ক্যাম্পের বিভিন্ন জায়গা ঘুরে ঘুরে দেখেন।

কূটনীতিকদের এই সফর স্থানীয় অধিবাসী এবং ক্যাম্পে থাকা অসংখ্য শরণার্থীদের মধ্যে প্রাণচাঞ্চল্য তৈরি করে।

কূটনীতিকরা কখনও গাড়িতে চড়ে আবার কখনও পায়ে হেঁটে শরণার্থীদের সাথে কথা বলার চেষ্টা করেন।

এরপর কূটনীতিকরা অপেক্ষমাণ সাংবাদিকদের সাথে আলাপ করেন।

কূটনীতিকদের পক্ষে কথা বলার সময় ঢাকায় নেদারল্যান্ডসের দূত লিওনি মার্গারেটা কুয়েলিনায়েরা উষ্ণ হৃদয় দিয়ে রোহিঙ্গাদের আশ্রয় দেয়ার জন্য বাংলাদেশ সরকারের প্রশংসা করেন।

"অবশ্যই এটা এখন আগের চেয়েও বেশি বিপর্যয়কর। অনেক বেশি মানুষ, নি:সন্দেহে এটি একটি মানবিক সংকট," তিনি বলেন, "আমাকে অবশ্যই বাংলাদেশ সরকারের প্রশংসা করতে হবে এতো মানুষকে উষ্ণতার সাথে গ্রহণ করার জন্য।"

পররাষ্ট্র প্রতিমন্ত্রী শাহরিয়ার আলম বলেন, তারা মনে করছেন বাংলাদেশ রোহিঙ্গাদের নিজ দেশে ফিরিয়ে নেয়ার জন্য যে প্রচেষ্টা নিয়েছে সেটিকে আরও জোরদার করবে বিদেশি কূটনীতিকদের এই পরিদর্শন।

তিনি বলেন, "সব দূতাবাসের প্রধানরা আছেন। মিয়ানমারের আচরণে মানবতার যে ক্ষতি হচ্ছে সেটি তারা দেখছেন। তারা উপলব্ধি করতে পারবেন ও নিজ দেশকে বার্তা দিবেন আশা করি যে রোহিঙ্গাদের ফিরিয়ে নিতেই হবে।"

এর আগে পররাষ্ট্র মন্ত্রণালয় ঢাকায় দু'দফায় বিদেশি কূটনীতিক ও আন্তর্জাতিক নানা সংস্থার প্রতিনিধিদের রোহিঙ্গা পরিস্থিতি সম্পর্কে অবহিত করেছে।

ঐ বৈঠক দুটিতে বাংলাদেশের তরফ থেকে রোহিঙ্গাদের ফিরিয়ে নেয়ার জন্য মিয়ানমার সরকারের ওপর চাপ তৈরির আহ্বান জানানো হয়।
http://www.bbc.com/bengali/news-41257435?ocid=socialflow_facebook

 

[Desert Fox]

Acc. to Bengalis, they are not ethnic Bengali it is the propaganda by the terrorists. Furthermore, they have been living there for centuries. And why the libtards have to turn this issue into an opportunity to bash the Muslim ummah while it is clearly a humanitarian issue.... are they not humans? Do we have to stand by the oppressor or just a mere spectator and watch the terrorists kill innocent people? If you don't raise your voice today for oppressed people, no one will raise voice for you either when an aggressor will persecute you and that will be really painful.

Okay, so let me ask you this, are you also willing to recognize the plight of the Muslims of Urumqi who are being culturally and even religiously oppressed by the Han Chinese? And are you willing to piss off China in the process?

Since so many Pakistanis are big fans of Sino-Pak alliance I would like to know if they are willing to piss off their greatest ally for the sake of Ummah (or humanity or whatever you want to call it).