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Rift among Asians: Why are our borders, more volatile than the Westerners!!?

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Sorry about your experience. I know 2 friends from Pakistan settled here for a while, we sure enjoy discussing politics and know how not cross a line. Apart from that we have cooked our foods and shared them. It takes extra effort despite ourselves to establish those relationships, I cannot emphasis the words "despite ourselves" here. Our leaders have chosen war and enemity in the face of poverty which are there in our countries. Looking at human as human and not of another religion or nation is not easy. But when it happens, when all those veils come off, I am telling you it it truly something.
 
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What you are not realizing is it was the very same west who came to your rescue when your people were massacred during WW II by the neighbouring country.
Still barking for your western master?Do you know that Japan wouldn't be able to wage a full scale war and sustain itself in China if not with the help of US?

Almost all oil supply to support the Japanese war machine came from US in early stage of WW2, without US support, Japan can't keep its war in China for a couple of months. In early stage of Sino Japanese war, US was an accomplice of Japan.

Sino-Japanese war started in 1937, US joined the war in 1941. Both Japan and US had Chinese blood in their hands.
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before the british left they made sure they left their gatekeepers behind to protect their interest. plus they left us with useless rupees paper money.
 
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The geo-political situation among us Asia Continent dwellers.. The amount of hatred we brew amongst each other is much higher than the westerners in present times. Why is that the situation now? Are we gonna blame our historic oppressors for the present situation? The expansionist policies in every country and the political leadership need to keep the country together at all cost? Feeding on every citizens emotion for political domination. Each military achievement given more media coverage in the country, covering up our internal turmoil. Each country has been victorious in certain facets internally which can be used for our neighbours. Could we move towards a better interdependence? A unified coaxial front to bring forth better prosperity for the world atlarge to see? Yes Fanaticism, be it any factions in each of our nations breeds hatred. Common hatred is a strong unifying factor, none can deny that. But how long are we gonna keep looking back into our history and seek reparation and revenge? If you look back you will stumble on even the tiniest pothole in front of you. Shall we cohesively look forward and pave the way of peace for subsequent generation. Yes! history does have bloodshed but how can we forget the common peace we had once celebrated. Can we for once break our differences and look for ways, wherein peace is always athand. Peace always comes at a cost, does that cost needs to be our neighbours blood or laying down our pride?
when was the last time Indians & Pakistanis fought like Russians/Ukranians ?
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when was the last time Indians & Pakistanis fought like Russians/Ukranians ?
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Yeah NATO gave their entire military arsenal to Ukraine and Russia already has a huge amount of armaments. Neither India not Pakistan has that much.. NATO wars is always to bring the entire world down along with them. They believe their wars are always for global interests.
 
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Still barking for your western master?Do you know that Japan wouldn't be able to wage a full scale war and sustain itself in China if not with the help of US?

Almost all oil supply to support the Japanese war machine came from US in early stage of WW2, without US support, Japan can't keep its war in China for a couple of months. In early stage of Sino Japanese war, US was an accomplice of Japan.

Sino-Japanese war started in 1937, US joined the war in 1941. Both Japan and US had Chinese blood in their hands.
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You talk like Xi's little puppy pining for your master's attention and call me a dog barking for West? Try to grow up kid know how to question your leadership. That will help your leadership to mature better. Do you know the famine of 50's was the lack of opposition in China. Stop your blind sycophancy to your leaders. Understand they are still human and no matter how high and mighty they are they have a blindside. Yeah the birdcage(the bird is free to do whatever it wants as long as it stays in the cage?) principle for every province in China, no citizen dares to question it. Do you know how India questions every policy put forth? Ofcourse it does make the implementation of anything damn slow out here, but every person's voice is normally heard. China right now just wants it's "hegemony over Asia not harmony in Asia." Yeah the last time somebody had that thought lead to the holocaust. Help your high and mighty leader to step down a little bit from his high hat. Yeah Xi and his Cohorts are the supreme class of people and the rest of the world is to be looked down upon? It is just sickening.

I don't understand where you are getting these insights on USA joining hands with Japan? US was Allied Power and Japan was Axis power. Pearl Harbor was Japanese Kamakazis attacking Hawaii. And HIroshima - Nagasaki was decimated by USA at the drop of a bomb.

The Chinese history was systematically eliminated by each victorious leadership of your red army. There is barely any truth that comes out of your media, it is heavily one-sided to make the general public tone-deaf.

Mao's original movement started with questioning existing traditional viewpoint. Once he came to power he suppressed every opposing viewpoint. Subsequent leaders followed suit, will your media be ever free?
 
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You talk like Xi's little puppy pining for your master's attention and call me a dog barking for West?
How long have you been in PDF, I m pretty well known for not supporting Xi for his 3rd term and openly call the zero covid policy a mistake, supporting Beijing's large protests last December.

principle for every province in China, no citizen dares to question it. Do you know how India questions every policy put forth? Ofcourse it does make the implementation of anything damn slow out here, but every person's voice is normally heard.
There are hundreds of protests if not thousands every year in China, what do you know no one dare to question any policies? the very recent one was China scrapped zero covid policy right after nation wide protests. Your Indian media never reported them?
 
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Do you know how India questions every policy put forth?
We Chinese are result oriented people, we don't criticize the government just for the sake of being able to do so, we criticize the government for very specific problem or issue, like air population, water quality, education costs, poverty alleviation, food hygiene, commute traffic, healthcare issues.... if you go to the Chinese social media you can see the Chinese public criticize the government on very specific issues every day and the government really listens and most times quickly tries to get the problem fixed.

Of course most people don't openly call the overthrowing of the government cause we know that's stupid and will do no one any good, it's always easy to blame others but if you were put in their position you can't guarantee you can do it better. what we want is bring the house to order but not tear down the house we live in.

Don't tell me how Indian government listens, so called "democrazy" is just a showbiz, their elections are just populairty contests, people having no previous related administrative experiences and proven capability just got elected into the office overnight, actors, comedians, billionaires, athletes... what they could do the best is to make empty promises which are never meant to be delivered, decades old public woes stay unsolved and the whole politics are about figure pointing and cutting the rivals down by hook or by crook.

In the Chinese culture, we never like big talkers, we only support big doers.
 
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How long have you been in PDF, I m pretty well known for not supporting Xi for his 3rd term and openly call the zero covid policy a mistake, supporting Beijing's large protests last December.


There are hundreds of protests if not thousands every year in China, what do you know no one dare to question any policies? the very recent one was China scrapped zero covid policy right after nation wide protests. Your Indian media never reported them?
Protests in China leads to mass incarcerations before you see results. Protests in India sees results quickly, for example the farmer's protests. A lot of your own people do not turn up after the protests!

We Chinese are result oriented people, we don't criticize the government just for the sake of being able to do so, we criticize the government for very specific problem or issue, like air population, water quality, education costs, poverty alleviation, food hygiene, commute traffic, healthcare issues.... if you go to the Chinese social media you can see the Chinese public criticize the government on very specific issues every day and the government really listens and most times quickly tries to get the problem fixed.

Of course most people don't openly call the overthrowing of the government cause we know that's stupid and will do no one any good, it's always easy to blame others but if you were put in their position you can't guarantee you can do it better. what we want is bring the house to order but not tear down the house we live in.

Don't tell me how Indian government listens, so called "democrazy" is just a showbiz, their elections are just populairty contests, people having no previous related administrative experiences and proven capability just got elected into the office overnight, actors, comedians, billionaires, athletes... what they could do the best is to make empty promises which are never meant to be delivered, decades old public woes stay unsolved and the whole politics are about figure pointing and cutting the rivals down by hook or by crook.

In the Chinese culture, we never like big talkers, we only support big doers.
We have experienced dictatorship under the Islamic rule and the British and now under democracy. You have never experienced democracy and as an observer have no right mocking our system!
 
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Protests in China leads to mass incarcerations before you see results. P
You are just hopelessly brainwashed by your fake media, where did you learn that crap? Do you know how many cities, towns and colleges staged protests just last December alone?

. Protests in India sees results quickly,
Really? Indian government isn't well known for bringing quick result, I guess you were repeatedly told by your media that they are.
 
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You are just hopelessly brainwashed by your fake media, where did you learn that crap? Do you know how many cities, towns and colleges staged protests just last December alone?
Good for you! I am glad you are learning something from Gandhi!
 
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We have experienced dictatorship under the Islamic rule and the British and now under democracy. You have never experienced democracy and as an observer have no right mocking our system!
Do you know Repbublic of China was one of the first democratic republics in Asia? 1912 to 1949, I guess you don't know either. and it was a big mess and that's the reason they were overthrown and fled to Taiwan.

Good for you! I am glad you are learning something from Gandhi!
Gandhi dynasty?

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Do you know Repbublic of China was one of the first democratic republics in Asia? I guess you don't know either. and it was a big mess and that's the reason they were overthrown and fled to Taiwan.
I truly hope the Vision of Chiang Kai Sek can be resurrected here with these Protests in China. Power to the people helps the ruling govt. to think again and reconsider their short sighted decisions. This is how we started our movements in India against the Brits. I hope the democratic republic from Taiwan could actually change China. Instead of blind following of leaders gobbling up everything else. China is definitely in a better place to grow exponentially if they loose their obsession of military dominance in their neighbourhood. The entire Belt and Road initiative had some elements of hope, until it became apparent to see their beloved leader's need for global hegemony.
This BRi can be done some much more effectively to build relationship among neighbours than pose China's supremacy!
 
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The main culprits are India and Israel.

Take these two countries out of the map and we will have a peaceful and prosperous Asia.
You need help , religion has pucked up your mind. You will make life hell for yourself and others around you.
 
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Do you know Repbublic of China was one of the first democratic republics in Asia? 1912 to 1949, I guess you don't know either. and it was a big mess and that's the reason they were overthrown and fled to Taiwan.


Gandhi dynasty?

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I am sorry Beijingwalker Nehru was a successor of Mahatma Gandhi not Gandhi dynasty? Indira Gandhi was Feroz Gandhi's wife has nothing to do with our leader Gandhi? Nehru's hegemony took a while to be taken down as his family dominated our politics for a long time. By the way these assasinations were carried out by distraught sects in India who were displeased by the government not the subsequent leaders. There are several frings elements all through India who constantly threaten the ruling government. But none of these details are made public by your government. Infact "BBC" who you are pridefully flaunting here could not even cover the protests you were talking about in China. Our government allows free media, you government suppresses any media against the ruling elite for the world over to see.
 
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