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Research calls for new dams to save Pakistan

Emphasis laid on building Kalabagh Dam

Asim Javed

LAHORE: Following the gradual rise of temperature of Upper Indus Basin (UIB), Pakistan faces imminent socio-economic threats, its only solution remaining the construction of dams to prevent the risks of flooding in Hindukush -Karakorum-Hamalaya (HKM) region.

A recent research on climate change impact on water racecourses at the end of the 21st Centenary focused on the three basin-river, Northern Hunza and Gilgit and southern Astore River, suggested that their temperature and precipitation would treble the chances of flood, further exacerbated by global warming. The call remains the construction of new dams, marked as the need of the hour to prevent high-speed of flood and survival of the ecosystem. In the upcoming years, same eco factors would be observed in India and China over an immense inflow of water discharge in the rivers, raised as a result of global warming. The study further harped on serious threats, to be fronted by Pakistan if it failed to construct more dams, imperative for the safety of all concerned.

Reportedly, UIB remains a critical source of water, but its 100 percent inflow in Tarbela and 30 percent in Mangla is derived from glacial-melting snow.

As per the research, a general increase in temperature and precipitation during 2071-2100 is evident in the Northern Hunza and Gilgit river basins, which will experience more warming, relative to the Southern Astore river basin. Besides, the Hunza river basin is dependant on temperature while the Gilgit Astore on the preceding winter precipitation, hence citing higher uncertainties when compared to the former. Under the study of Muhammad Akhtar PhD scholar Punjab University Geology Department, three HBV model were conducted including HBV-Met, HBV-ERA and HBV-PRECIS and using two approach delta change approach and direct use of PRECIS (providing regional climate for impact studies). He warned that in the next six decades, the mass of glacier would be changed in three stages; 100 percent glacier, 50 percent glacier and 0 percent. The amplitude of the annual discharge cycle will increase in a changed climate under 100 percent glacier according to HBV-PRECIS model, -91percent in Hunza River, Gilgit -78 percent, Astore -93percent, while if the half mass is decreased Hunza discharge will be -13 percent, Gilgit -20 percent, Astore -24 percent and if it changes none, Hunza discharge 65 percent, Gilgit 40 percent and Astore 46 percent.

The direct use of Regional Climate Model (RCM) output(HBV-Met PRECIS model) indicated that the magnitude of annual maximum flood is likely to increase in future in all the river basins .But the discharge will generally increase, indication of high-risk of flood in Hindukush -Karakorum-Hamalaya (HKM) region. The three river basin temperature and precipitation will also be increased, ranging between 0.83,-3, and 09 C, where before it had been from 6 to 23 percent.

Talking to The Post, Muhammad Akhtar stressed on the need for new dams in Pakistan, 'the best utilization of water to be interlinked with storing water not for the sake of its people but also for the growing economy.'

To a question, he urged the government stop retarding construction of the Kala Bagh Dam, delay in which would mean an end to the country's sovereignty.
 
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nice to see , fatman shahib..... comming on the right issue, this is the post what .... should be we pakis discussing right now.... bravo!!!:tup:
 
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nice to see , fatman shahib..... comming on the right issue, this is the post what .... should be we pakis discussing right now.... bravo!!!:tup:

actually this is my 3rd try on this subject (two in the econ & dev section) but unfortunately it hasnt captured the imagination of our forum members. when our bathroom and kitchen taps go empty then we will realise our folly and lathargy. we are a nation that only acts after the fact.
 
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I READ YOUR POST YESTERDAY BUT ELECTRICITY DECIIEVED ME WHEN I WAS POSTING MY RESPONSE. ANY HOW U REALLY DONE A GREAT WORK BY POINTING OUT THIS ISSUE. GREAT
“KALABAGH DAM TRIGGERED AN EXTREMELY BITTER CONTROVERSY AMONG PROVINCES” PLZ FATMAN COMMENT ON IT.
 
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I READ YOUR POST YESTERDAY BUT ELECTRICITY DECIIEVED ME WHEN I WAS POSTING MY RESPONSE. ANY HOW U REALLY DONE A GREAT WORK BY POINTING OUT THIS ISSUE. GREAT
“KALABAGH DAM TRIGGERED AN EXTREMELY BITTER CONTROVERSY AMONG PROVINCES” PLZ FATMAN COMMENT ON IT.

what ever we do needs consensus. now kalabagh dam may not be the only solution. the former finance minister of PPP during ZAB's time had a plan for building small reserviours (25 of them) downstream on the indus and the 2 other major rivers jehlum and chenab but no one has really analysed his proposal. i am not a civil engineer but i am sure there are other workable solutions. people dont realise that each year 25MG of water reaches the arabian sea. this is enough for both our rabbi and kharif crop seasons let alone provide water for human consumption on a yearly basis. this is a crime!
 
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"what ever we do needs consensus" .....HOW WE CAN ACHIEVE "CONSENSUS" ON THIS ISSUE..........
waiting
sara
 
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Field Marshall Ayub Khan had the best chance of building Kalabagh.
Now if this is so controversial forget it lets put it on a back burner. Even though I favor the building of this dam, this is stoping all other dams. I mean cant we build something else to solve our problems. Just for this one dam everything stands at a stand still.
 
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"what ever we do needs consensus" .....HOW WE CAN ACHIEVE "CONSENSUS" ON THIS ISSUE..........
waiting
sara

National concensus would be a good idea but still we need approval from atleast three provinces inorder to build this dam and I don't see Sindh agreeing with this under any civil government.

Musharraf should have pushed the project and built it under his command. :undecided:
 
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Field Marshall Ayub Khan had the best chance of building Kalabagh.
Now if this is so controversial forget it lets put it on a back burner. Even though I favor the building of this dam, this is stoping all other dams. I mean cant we build something else to solve our problems. Just for this one dam everything stands at a stand still”.(mujahideen)


Yes we can build something else to solve our problems but as per my knowledge kalabagh dam is technically sounder project as compared to others. As it was initiated in 1953 and its paper work was finalized in 1984 so it has been gone through many exhaustive studies spinning around three decades. This project has eaten up money, time and efforts which is not same for any other project. Moreover if this issue could be solved under Ayub dictatorship (its another issue that Ayub dropped this solution in the favor of Tarbella) then why did not Musharf absolve it with mutual consensus? Instead of putting this issue on backburner or shelving it forever (as present government commenting on it), government should try to address and dissolve the grievances of all three provinces, particularly sindh and one thing we should keep in mind that BB (May ALLAH BLESS UPON HER) was also in the favor of this project even she had allocated budget for it during her regime.
(Plz dear members correct me if I’m wrong and plz take the genuine analysis of all the provisional grievances on this issue)
Looking forward
SARA HASSAN
 
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Unlike Ayyub Khan's totalitarian regime Musharraf followed a moderate and semi-democratic governance of Pakistan.

During his seven years Provincial and Local assemblies stayed intact and one thing Musharraf refused to bypass was the Kalabagh Dam since it could increase inter-provincial tensions.
No matter how much I wish he'd pushed the project the dam is not woth more political instability and tensions between the provinces.

We have huge hydal potential, there are alternative less attractive than Kalabag (5000MW) but sufficient enough to fullfil our imidiate energy requirements.

IIRC a recent US study estimated Pakistan's untabbed hydal sources to be worth 200.000MW....
 
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Unlike Ayyub Khan's totalitarian regime Musharraf followed a moderate and semi-democratic governance of Pakistan.

With all due respect I totally disagree. Field Marshall Ayub Khan was a thousand tims better then President Musharraf. Ayub Khan was more moderat then President Musharraf and as far as governance goes he introduced grassroots level of democracy, by creating district Nazims. The changes he introduced were never seen in our short history. President Musharraf has jailed more people then President Ayub. I mean I support President Musharraf but I think President Ayub was much better. What really destroyed him were his sons. After refusing to fight in the 1965 war they disgraced President Ayub. I believe it was his eldest son and his sons father-in-law which used his position to loot the country, but I dont think President Ayub had anything to do with this. Today a lot of people say Bhutto brought down Ayub, but in fact when President Ayub jailed him the movement against him died, it was Air Marshall Asghar Khan who gave life to the movement. I think if we ask people who is better Musharraf or Ayub most would vote for President Ayub.
 
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With all due respect I totally disagree. Field Marshall Ayub Khan was a thousand tims better then President Musharraf. Ayub Khan was more moderat then President Musharraf and as far as governance goes he introduced grassroots level of democracy, by creating district Nazims. The changes he introduced were never seen in our short history. President Musharraf has jailed more people then President Ayub. I mean I support President Musharraf but I think President Ayub was much better. What really destroyed him were his sons. After refusing to fight in the 1965 war they disgraced President Ayub. I believe it was his eldest son and his sons father-in-law which used his position to loot the country, but I dont think President Ayub had anything to do with this. Today a lot of people say Bhutto brought down Ayub, but in fact when President Ayub jailed him the movement against him died, it was Air Marshall Asghar Khan who gave life to the movement. I think if we ask people who is better Musharraf or Ayub most would vote for President Ayub.

my dear friend u cannot compare - different times.
 
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With all due respect I totally disagree. Field Marshall Ayub Khan was a thousand tims better then President Musharraf. Ayub Khan was more moderat then President Musharraf and as far as governance goes he introduced grassroots level of democracy, by creating district Nazims. The changes he introduced were never seen in our short history. President Musharraf has jailed more people then President Ayub. I mean I support President Musharraf but I think President Ayub was much better. What really destroyed him were his sons. After refusing to fight in the 1965 war they disgraced President Ayub. I believe it was his eldest son and his sons father-in-law which used his position to loot the country, but I dont think President Ayub had anything to do with this. Today a lot of people say Bhutto brought down Ayub, but in fact when President Ayub jailed him the movement against him died, it was Air Marshall Asghar Khan who gave life to the movement. I think if we ask people who is better Musharraf or Ayub most would vote for President Ayub.

Oo my, you respect Liaquat Ali, he is your ideal, wauw, you must have been indoctrinated.

Do you know that he banned PML of Jinnah, and named it as his party, and banned Fatima Jinnah to use PML which is her brothers party. He is the man who was also suspect of Liaquat Ali's murder.

Fatima Jinnah fought bravely she came back in Politics because the Bangladeshis Politicians the the real PML told her too, they parted way in the end when Ayub and his bogus take over resulted in the separation of Pakistan.

Do you know he was behind the first conspiracy case of Pakistan the "Rawalpindi Conspiracy case", this is the man who also sat in dinner with Jinnah before independence, and was the group who wanted the Military to have political access, Jinnah didn't take it and stood up and told the later charged alleged Akbar Khan,

"Never forget that you are the servants of the state. You do not make policy. It is we, the people’s representatives, who decide how the country is to be run. Your job is to only obey the decisions of your civilian masters."

Ayub was in that dinner and he heard these very words and turned away, he conspired against Pakistan.

Fatima Jinnah called him a "Opportunist" and a "dictator" might that make it clear.
 
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Pak Military is saviour of Pakistan and should be credited for of reconnaissance of Jinnah's Pakistan on various occasions in history.
Jinnah made Pakistan only once and Army saved it from internal and external enimies many times.
Today again internal and external enimies have joined hands and Army will defeat them again.

Where as Bhutto was solily responsible for dividing Pakistan in two halfs and deaths of Pakistani soldiers by pushing them in trap.

Bhutto said 'Tum udhar Hum idhar' 'He also said I will break the legs who will attend the assembly sesion' very undemocratic and thats how the PPP rule began.
 
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President Ayub Khan was one of the greatest leaders to have led Pakistan. The development under his rule was by far the greatest of any one of our rulers. When he came to power the people gave him their support, but the people around him destroyed him. Bhutto being the biggest. First he went along with everything President Ayub did and when Bhutto's power was challenged he revolted. Same thing with today's Chief Justice when his power is challenged he revolted.
 
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