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You see this is exactly the problem with Pakistan and its people, you are seeing some unused magazines but they still manage to kill our soldiers, keeping them from more damage does not negate that they literally failed, the news was out and in the open and it not just took lives but bad publicity for the country, we need pre-emptive measures to make sure that no more 5-6 team attacks on bases or Check posts, I will be proud when our forces will conduct operations based on Intelligence and kill them before they even left their sleeper cell.
Who is denying the preemptive measures? Or is it just because you have to post something and suddenly you saw a problem which is not the case at all. Those observations are post attack response and still adds a lot but, shouldn't concern PUBG champions. Yes we lost good men but that was a sudden attack & rush & hit situation. You can't survive such kind of attacks in real world every-time without injuries or fatal shot. By the same logic, whole NATO failed miserably with everything every time Taliban takes them on. There has to be logical & experience based reply by putting yourself in their shoes, situation & threat.
Stop looking at the problem of Pakistan & its people if you really wants to address the situation & ways to deal with it. How many attacks you can remember whereby Forces replied with no loss at hand and still took them down? Do you guarantee that it will happen all the time in case of any attack? Quote me any Military on the face of earth with 100% results and you don't see any problem with those people & the nation accordingly. See, it is just that easy to judge others on personal level while demanding anything without presenting the ideas based upon the logic, resources, circumstances & options available.
Panjgur is not all the barren land. It is not easy to eliminate them in go especially when rats are hiding & using Human Shields. Therefore, it takes time & efforts to avoid collateral damage & saving civilian lives at top priority.
Roohan is a known sympathiser of subversive elements and has been known to embellish and exaggerate stories.
How?Roohan is a known sympathiser of subversive elements and has been known to embellish and exaggerate stories.
On the contrary this is the latest statement since almost 12 hours.However, those officials have so much time to tell anything to such people for Internet but none of us had any feed
First, lets not go to PUBG champions or these cheap shots, you are Senior Moderator so ACT like one... Now, my response was about your post about the observation on the dead Terrorists, and yes I did notice that specially the guy with unused RPG rockets, and I am not disagreeing with your point that we did corner them and killed them quick, but the damage is done, when they fire first shots and killed a couple the damage is done, my point is we can try to find these small details or discuss a much serious concern which is that how is that within 10 days terrorists with two teams of 5+ man able to launch attacks on our forces? Of course no one is denying that our forces will get hit, and they will give sacrifices but if you see this is not a isolated incident, attacks are happening with intervals, and not just some one gunman or drive by shootings, these are well planned and organized Attacks. US in Afghanistan and Iraq had learned a lot, one example I can give you is battle of Falujja, if you know the history and Operation itself. US in Afghanistan, hardly lost 10+ soldiers in Taliban attacks, and even if they did they made sure no one gets off alive, or most importantly they made sure there would not be another similar attack on them, we need to learn from them and their tactics, yes we are short of resources but we can be smart about our own strategy.Who is denying the preemptive measures? Or is it just because you have to post something and suddenly you saw a problem which is not the case at all. Those observations are post attack response and still adds a lot but, shouldn't concern PUBG champions. Yes we lost good men but that was a sudden attack & rush & hit situation. You can't survive such kind of attacks in real world every-time without injuries or fatal shot. By the same logic, whole NATO failed miserably with everything every time Taliban takes them on. There has to be logical & experience based reply by putting yourself in their shoes, situation & threat.
Well there were Attacks which were pushed backed by Army without loses, Of course If i go in research mode I can find it, also if you are somehow connected to Army you know there are many attacks without anyone dying from our side, we also had successful intelligence based OP's within our borders and outside our borders, Baluchistan is heating up for around 2 years now, no one expect that Army will launch a operation and we will have peace, we went through multiple OP in FATA then we had something we could call peace, there hasn't been any major Operations in Baluchistan, which is why Terrorists are getting trained, getting all sorts of support, in FATA we did not just go after their man power but their supply chain and command centers (Mir Ali) and until we repeat the same in Baluchistan we will see such attacks and by such attacks I mean attacks which are on large scale such as Check post Attack and the FC HQ one, Won't you agree that we are trying Intelligence base OP's and yet we are keep getting Attacked, so its time to change Strategy ? I know Panzerkeil will say Army Top Brass are working on it and that's fine, but for a commoner such as me, we live by on ground realities where we see our soldiers dying, we see same condemning statements and later we go back to business usual, yes Terrorists are losing their leaders and manpower to, but life of a soldier of PA is far far more valuable than a scum of BLA / TTP, so if we are losing a couple of ours I want that our Army made sure they don't dare to Attack them for months to come.Stop looking at the problem of Pakistan & its people if you really wants to address the situation & ways to deal with it. How many attacks you can remember whereby Forces replied with no loss at hand and still took them down? Do you guarantee that it will happen all the time in case of any attack? Quote me any Military on the face of earth with 100% results and you don't see any problem with those people & the nation accordingly. See, it is just that easy to judge others on personal level while demanding anything without presenting the ideas based upon the logic, resources, circumstances & options available.
Yeah the so-called statement by so-called FC Official.On the contrary this is the latest statement since almost 12 hours.
Well given that another journalist also received news from FC on the identity of one of the casualties it seems legitimate adding onto that is his credibility which is fairly solid as far as his reporting goes. Plus the fact that ISPR and the Balochistan government have not sent out any updates, safe to assume the operation is still ongoing in Panjgur. Of course it would be better to hear it from an Official but alas like you said they won't be holding constant press briefings.Yeah the so-called statement by so-called FC Official.
but the damage is done, when they fire first shots and killed a couple the damage is done, my point is we can try to find these small details or discuss a much serious concern which is that how is that within 10 days terrorists with two teams of 5+ man able to launch attacks on our forces? Of course no one is denying that our forces will get hit, and they will give sacrifices but if you see this is not a isolated incident, attacks are happening with intervals, and not just some one gunman or drive by shootings, these are well planned and organized Attacks. US in Afghanistan and Iraq had learned a lot, one example I can give you is battle of Falujja, if you know the history and Operation itself. US in Afghanistan, hardly lost 10+ soldiers in Taliban attacks, and even if they did they made sure no one gets off alive
America did not lose, they destroyed Afghanistan, took revenge for 9/11, spied on Pakistan, Iran, China .. Destabilize Pakistan, deploy hundreds of assets in the region, just because they left without fully defeating Taliban doesn't make them losers, they killed far more Taliban than they lost their own.Whole world recognize US lost in AFG with all its might / weapons / technologies. Now I understand it did not lost militarily but politically. However, if it had got military objectives it would have won the political objectives as well.
Have you seen footages ? Air port was in Chaos when the Attacked happen, thousands of people trying to enter Air port, not all gates were guarded properly, then you have Taliban at the doors as well, any wrong move and there would be a clash between them, Americans want their people out and so they did, ISIS took this opportunity and strike. So its not US failure again on that one suicide Attack.With full focus, so many alerts, so many drones, satellite coverage even IS-K gave a partying gift to USA when it was evacuating in Kabul with dozens of US soldiers killed.