Replacement of Pakistan Army's G-3 Rifles.

[batmannow]

a new bullet design can entail different propelled or different pun powder and the projectile of different make while keeping the same dimensions. I am considering 7.62 to be the constant here and designing everything around it.
i know my statement was too general and implied a new bullet in shape and size as well which wasnt my point but I am sure as the time passes this might happen where a smaller round will offer the same accuracy and velocity and eventually the stopping power which is only possible through 7.62 but not jsut now

You doing a fine disscusion, bt wht this old prapoganda stuff, like we can't adopt new ones cause they are too expensive or we don't hve budget, or that's the only one in the whole dam world?lol lol lol
Its our crazy mentality, which kept us limitting ourselves?
Just think about dam, F-16s we, keep buying them, but when frist we got them we never was so affraid off?
Why our mentality keeps us , too limmited???
We can get few good ones & systmeticly can move forward in parts , if we really wana move forward???
Don't you think?
Just think why US ,france,UK aren't so reluctent to hve 7.62. & why we stuck with it?

 

[Amaa'n]

a new bullet design can entail different propelled or different pun powder and the projectile of different make while keeping the same dimensions. I am considering 7.62 to be the constant here and designing everything around it.
i know my statement was too general and implied a new bullet in shape and size as well which wasnt my point but I am sure as the time passes this might happen where a smaller round will offer the same accuracy and velocity and eventually the stopping power which is only possible through 7.62 but not jsut now

Oh I get it now, aplogizes for misinterpreting the post. But yes i agree with you, as you said we also need to work on Triggering,the firing mechanism, and the maintenace.
Just a food for thought, look into .22 TCM, its basically a 5.56 nato round just in small dimension chambered for a handgun, its deadly accurate. It was designed by Armscor, a philipines based company. So if they can do it we can also, but not at this point.

 

[Gentelman]

You doing a fine disscusion, bt wht this old prapoganda stuff, like we can't adopt new ones cause they are too expensive or we don't hve budget, or that's the only one in the whole dam world?lol lol lol
Its our crazy mentality, which kept us limitting ourselves?
Just think about dam, F-16s we, keep buying them, but when frist we got them we never was so affraid off?
Why our mentality keeps us , too limmited???
We can get few good ones & systmeticly can move forward in parts , if we really wana move forward???
Don't you think?
Just think why US ,france,UK aren't so reluctent to hve 7.62. & why we stuck with it?

cmon we are buying F-16 because of their infrastructure....
till now PAF would like to buy mairages coz of facility...
we can even locally upgrade F-16 engine moreover we have them on soft loans.....
and newer block 50/52 are cool...
i suppose PAF would stick with them almost till US denial to supply more jets....
well pardon me guns are not my things soo let me first get them better known....
well but i agree with you we should go for newer and better ones....
we have enough budget but i suppose we should lessen our missile budget and should work on one project at a time.....
use spare money to built on PN and PAF....

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan is going to modify all the G-3s to this standard, and apparently plan to keep them in service for quite longer,

Is Pakistan producing this model of G-3 and if yes than what are its features and capabilities ? @Aeronaut

 

[S-A-B-E-R->]

Is Pakistan producing this model of G-3 and if yes than what are its features and capabilities ? @Aeronaut

no first this is not a model.we do manufacture this g3 which is similar to any other g3 we make except the sliding stock. second the picinary rail .the for grip.and the holographic site are normally aftermarket addons. PA is adding a red *** tunnel site and a by pod stand to most of the G3s out there.

 

[Amaa'n]

Is Pakistan producing this model of G-3 and if yes than what are its features and capabilities ? @Aeronaut

Actually the model being manufactured at PoF is a bit different, it has the picatinny rails but just at the handguards, this one is too beefed up.....there was a pciture of COAS firing one....let me see if i can find one......some people are saying that we might opt for aG3s, /g3k4

 

[S-A-B-E-R->]

Actually the model being manufactured at PoF is a bit different, it has the picatinny rails but just at the handguards, this one is too beefed up.....there was a pciture of COAS firing one....let me see if i can find one......some people are saying that we might opt for aG3s, /g3k4

actually the picinary rails on POF g3 r not only on the hand guard but also on the upper receiver...but that is not the version solders r going to get..believe me we dont have that kind of funding to give all of them a full package.

 

[Amaa'n]

actually the picinary rails on POF g3 r not only on the hand guard but also on the upper receiver...but that is not the version solders r going to get..believe me we dont have that kind of funding to give all of them a full package.

Agree with you. I have yet to see a solider with a gun in question.i went to Pasban shooting Range Rawalpindi cantt.a Unit of 111 birgade was there for paces training, all of them had the type 56 or the g3 with no mods

 

[umair86pk]

G3 needs replacement as soon as possible.

 

[Last Hope]

 

[fatman17]

G3 needs replacement as soon as possible.

pray tell us why?

 

[Saifullah]

i don't think we should replace G3s cause:

1- We are not going to fight any urban area war.
2- The action which is being taken placed by army in FATA etc is supposed to be the Police's job. we don't have any good Police infrastructure over there that's why faced this. so once the area will be cleared we don't need Army over there any more. hence no more Urban fight.
3- In non-urban war we need Range and accuracy which G3 certainly gives us nicely.
4- In non-urban war we don't need burst cause we don't wana waste ammo and for Burst we have MG3s.

 

[dr_jawwad71]

My vote is for slow but steady development of HK-417 variant for Pakistan Army.
These decisions should take a proper time and evaluation.

 

[farhan_9909]

Done by Pakistan?

 

[Last Hope]

Done by Pakistan?

Yes, but I don't know why. MG-3 should have been sufficient.