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Religious intolerance 'the new racism'

That is correct. But I am talking about poor/rich fertility difference

Top 10 countries by birth rate are all poor.

1 Democratic Republic of the Congo 49.6
2 Guinea-Bissau 49.6
3 Liberia 49.6
4 Niger 49.0
5 Afghanistan 48.2
6 Mali 48.1
7 Angola 47.3
8 Burundi 47.1
9 Uganda 46.6
10 Sierra Leone 46.2

List of countries by birth rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fertility and Birth rate are unrelated factors in the given context. Do you notice a pattern in the list? Its the socio-economic conditions prevailing in those countries which dictates the birth rates, and not fertility! Add to that list, illiteracy, non-availability of primary health care facilities, and age-old traditions which many people are afraid or unwilling to let go of!

Religious intolerance is not exactly a "new racism" phenomenon. It is as old as the onset of religions, especially the onset of Abrahamic religions. It may sound like a flame bait, but its quite true.
AFAIK, it was the Egyptians and the Romans who first started religious discrimination against the Jews and then later the Christians.
 
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There's nothing for Canada to fear in those fertility rates
By Douglas Todd, Vancouver Sun July 2, 2010

In the old days in Canada, Protestants and non-religious citizens used to complain that Roman Catholic women gave birth to far too many babies.

With the Vatican forbidding couples to use artificial birth control, people feared followers of the Pope would overtake the country through fertility -- simply by force of their extra children.

But now Statistics Canada says Catholic women are giving birth to fewer babies than the average female Canadian. And independent polling shows most Canadian Catholics are quietly ignoring the ban on contraception.

However, the Western public's fear about women of a certain religious persuasion being too fertile has not disappeared. It's just shifted targets.

Now many people, including Canadians, are anxious about Islamic mothers bringing too many babies into the world.

Some fear-filled North American commentators have predicted that Europe will be 40-per-cent Muslim by 2020, fuelled by birthrates. They claim it would be more accurate to refer to Europe as "Eurabia."

It's a wild exaggeration. But, as with most stereotypes, there is a kernel of truth behind the belief Muslim women generally have more babies.

A long-ignored Statistics Canada report on fertility rates among women of different religions shows Muslim women in this country on average have 2.4 babies.

That compares with the national average of 1.6 babies per woman.

After Muslims, Canadian Hindu women are the second most fertile by religion, delivering 2.0 babies per woman, followed by Sikhs (1.8) and Jews (1.7).

Canadian Catholic women now give birth to an average of 1.5 children, a fraction below that of Protestants and a bit above women who have no religion. The least fertile Canadian women, by religion, are Buddhists.

Why do members of some religions have more children? Demographers suggest the complex answer lies in a mixture of doctrine and national cultures.

The holy books of Judaism, Christianity and Islam were written in eras when everyone agonized about infants dying young. As a result, scholars say, these scriptures tend to be pro-procreation. However, even though Roman Catholic prelates have interpreted the Bible to be anti-contraception and opposed to abortion, many Protestant Christians do not read it the same way. Similarly, Muslims have different ways of interpreting the Koran when it comes to fertility.

Separate from religion, birthrates are tied to local cultures and ethnic customs. On ethnicity alone, the lowest birthrates in Canada are among white, Chinese, Japanese and especially Korean women, all slightly below the national birthrate average (and well below the "replacement level" of 2.1).

In addition, even though Roman Catholic birthrates in Canada are roughly the same as the national norm, Filipino Canadian women, most of whom are Catholic, have a higher rate -- 1.8 births per woman.

In much the same way, the fertility rate among ethnic Arab women, who come to Canada from Muslim-majority countries, is also high, at 2.2 births per woman. Yet other Muslim women arrive in Canada from ethnic cultures with lower birthrates.

What's the upshot of all these figures? When the statistical analysis about religion and fertility is said and done, how rapidly will Muslim populations expand in the West?

Before offering the best projections, it's worth recognizing the demographic truism that women who emigrate from countries with high birthrates soon start having babies at roughly the same pace as women in their adopted country.

As a result, instead of Europe being 40-per-cent Muslim by 2020, responsible demographers project it will be only six-per-cent Muslim in a decade, a rise of two percentage points.

Statistics Canada has projected this country will be about seven-per-cent Muslim by 2031, up from four per cent. Christianity, in two decades, will account for 65-per-cent of Canadians.

Still, for those Canadians who continue to fear that high fertility and immigration will lead to the Muslim religion becoming dominant, there is another Statistics Canada figure to keep in mind. It is that most Canadian Muslims are not religiously active. Only two out of five Muslims in this country attend mosque once a month or more.

In other words, most Muslims, after moving to Canada, quickly begin accepting the country's overriding secular habits and values, including on fertility, just as most Catholic women have in the past 50 years.

Canadian fertility trends are fascinating to study, especially in regard to religion. But with so many important things to worry about in the world, Muslim birthrates do not need to be one of them.

dtodd@vancouversun.com
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Think Buddy. Why hindus fled from pakistan in such a large number.

That is no brainer. Pakistan was created in the name of Muslim and India was saying we do not want to create separate nation.

Now think of a Hindu in Pakistan before Partition.
He know these guys created Pakistan because they cannot live together with Hindus, so message was clear. So Hindus left.

Now think of a Muslim in India, he knew Indian's were saying they are fine living together, so he did not feel that much threat and stayed in India. Today we have 130 million Muslims in India proves they felt comfortable with India.

I have heard of Hindus and Muslim migrating to India, never heard other way round (Minus marriage).
 
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I have heard of Hindus and Muslim migrating to India, never heard other way round (Minus marriage).

There are Bangladeshi, both Muslims and Hindus, migrating from overcrowded areas to India. There are no Muslims migrating from Pakistan to India. Few marriage partners moving either way does not matter.
 
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There are Bangladeshi, both Muslims and Hindus, migrating from overcrowded areas to India. There are no Muslims migrating from Pakistan to India. Few marriage partners moving either way does not matter.

I met 10 in my life who completely migrated to India with family not for marriage, some prime ones are Adnan Shami. He stayed here and after staying for 5 years applied for citizenship which he got. I had 1 neighbor in Pune who migrated with family. I also know one family in Bhopal who migrated and opened a hotel. Rich family.
 
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I met 10 in my life who completely migrated to India with family not for marriage, some prime ones are Adnan Shami. He stayed here and after staying for 5 years applied for citizenship which he got. I had 1 neighbor in Pune who migrated with family. I also know one family in Bhopal who migrated and opened a hotel. Rich family.

Adnan Shami felt that his artistic talent is not being appreciated in Pakistan and he will have better career and money in India. I have also met hundreds of Indian Muslims that have migrated to Pakistan after 1985. I don't think there is large stream either way. Though many Pakistani Hindus from Tharparkar district of Sindh do cross the border into Rajasthan.
 
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Adnan Shami felt that his artistic talent is not being appreciated in Pakistan and he will have better career and money in India. I have also met hundreds of Indian Muslims that have migrated to Pakistan after 1985. I don't think there is large stream either way. Though many Pakistani Hindus from Tharparkar district of Sindh do cross the border into Rajasthan.

Entire family migrated, that is news thanks for letting me know.
 
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Entire family migrated, that is news thanks for letting me know.


Adnan Sami parents are Pakistani and he was born and raised in UK. I remember him being in Pakistan and the controversy of him moving to India. Adnan Sami at the time said, as reported by Pakistani press, that he wanted to move to India for his career only. Probably he holds or claims British, Canadian, Pakistani and Indian citizenships.

According to Wikipedia:

Adnan Sami Khan (Hindi: अदनान समी; Urdu: عدنان سمیع خان; born 15 August 1973), popularly known simply as Adnan Sami, is a British-born singer, musician, pianist, actor and composer of Pakistan origin. He currently holds Canadian citizenship and lives in Mumbai, India.
 
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Adnan Sami parents are Pakistani and he was born and raised in UK. I remember him being in Pakistan and the controversy of him moving to India. Adnan Sami at the time said, as reported by Pakistani press, that he wanted to move to India for his career only. Probably he holds or claims British, Canadian, Pakistani and Indian citizenships.

According to Wikipedia:

Adnan Sami Khan (Hindi: अदनान समी; Urdu: عدنان سمیع خان; born 15 August 1973), popularly known simply as Adnan Sami, is a British-born singer, musician, pianist, actor and composer of Pakistan origin. He currently holds Canadian citizenship and lives in Mumbai, India. His style merges Asian and Western music styles and instrumentation and ranges from classical to jazz to modern pop-rock.

Agreed but you also will agree that these are sensitive things and no one will say, I am moving because I do not like Pakistan or the other way round. Similarly Saniya Mirza said they want to live in Dubai for Career.
 
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