Release more funds for Delhi's development: Arvind Kejriwal to Centre

[Prometheus]

I already said that people in Punjab will teach Akali's a lesson...Also when AAP took support from same Congress in 2013 did you call them hypocrites as well?? I am fine with your views on modi...whom am i to challenge them...however calling him as good as foreign affairs is certainly not keeping upto speed with his other initiatives...


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After 20,000 per acre compensation announcement by DElhi Govt............Punjab Govt. has "Begged" central govt. to give 10,000 rs compensation to Punjab Farmers.

Plz make a thread on it too...............enjoy

Badal seeks Rs 10,000/acre relief for rain-hit

 

[mehboobkz]

Dude, the issue is that all states in India get a certain share of central funds, Delhi is asking for a bigger share, ie they want other parts of India to give up part of their budget so that aap can bribe the Delhi citizenry and fulfill irresponsible election promises. Why should the rest of the country give up their dues .?

Do you have other states data to back up your above statement?

@Sky lord

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Dude, the issue is that all states in India get a certain share of central funds, Delhi is asking for a bigger share, ie they want other parts of India to give up part of their budget so that aap can bribe the Delhi citizenry and fulfill irresponsible election promises. Why should the rest of the country give up their dues .?

Do you have other states data to back up your above statement?

@Sky lord

That would invite intelligent debate, which the posters would never want to do.

 

[Sky lord]

Dude, the issue is that all states in India get a certain share of central funds, Delhi is asking for a bigger share, ie they want other parts of India to give up part of their budget so that aap can bribe the Delhi citizenry and fulfill irresponsible election promises. Why should the rest of the country give up their dues .?

Do you have other states data to back up your above statement?

@Sky lord

The central funds available for dispersal is finite " the pie " if you will, it is divided as per a formula. There are many claimants for these funds and not enough money. If one state wants to have more of central funds, somebody else will have to take less.

There are other ways for a state to raise money, but that requires hard work, it is much easier to demand more from mummy.

and Punjab???? down in the gutter ...................how cute..................Bhakt skipped Punjab Govt.................a shinning example of Good governance




Repeating again....

AAP is cheating , because they tried to be faithful .............BJP cant Cheat , because they were never faithful

I think we may be talking at cross purposes here. If BJP/alkali in Punjab has done a bad job, they should be booted out without question. The point is that none of these politicians are your saviours. You need to hold them accountable and explain clearly to them why you decided to boot them out. That is the only way to improve politics in India.

The problem for us as a country is that we tend to remain loyal to a party even when they are doing things wrong. Constructive Criticism is the need of the hour not blind loyalty.

 

[Nicky G]

Dude, the issue is that all states in India get a certain share of central funds, Delhi is asking for a bigger share, ie they want other parts of India to give up part of their budget so that aap can bribe the Delhi citizenry and fulfill irresponsible election promises. Why should the rest of the country give up their dues .?

Do you have other states data to back up your above statement?

@Sky lord

Lookup devolution of central taxes and funds. The devolution is done based on a complex formula considering income disparity, population and population growth, financial stability, performance, revenue situation etc.

Its not a simple matter of getting back in the same ratio as you give; as cities and industrial areas would report more tax collection and backward areas would continue to be so.

It used to be modified Gadgil formula for calculating the distribution, though that has likely been changed with the new government.

Some data points: Centre releases Rs 37,420 crore as 1st instalment of devolution

 

[mehboobkz]

The central funds available for dispersal is finite " the pie " if you will, it is divided as per a formula. There are many claimants for these funds and not enough money. If one state wants to have more of central funds, somebody else will have to take less.
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What is that specific formula?

 

[Sky lord]

What is that specific formula?

If you look back in this thread you will find it.

 

[mehboobkz]

Lookup devolution of central taxes and funds. The devolution is done based on a complex formula considering income disparity, population and population growth, financial stability, performance, revenue situation etc.

Its not a simple matter of getting back in the same ratio as you give; as cities and industrial areas would report more tax collection and backward areas would continue to be so.

It used to be modified Gadgil formula for calculating the distribution, though that has likely been changed with the new government.

Some data points: Centre releases Rs 37,420 crore as 1st instalment of devolution

Delhi GDP is more than Punjab.
Consequently Delhi contributed more taxes to the center.
Why it is getting less money than Punjab?

If you look back in this thread you will find it.

So you don't know the shit.
But love to blabber.

 

[Sky lord]

Delhi GDP is more than Punjab.
Consequently Delhi contributed more taxes to the center.
Why it is getting less money than Punjab?



So you don't know the shit.
But love to blabber.

I think @Nicky G explained it very well above. Again, she has provided the direction but you will have to do some of the work yourself. Like you're leader you prefer to trade insults because you have NO. Rational arguments and too lazy to actually look for them.

So be it. Someday someone will make a Bollywood comedy based on the tamasha going on . And sir in future please keep your bad language to yourself.

 

[Nicky G]

Delhi GDP is more than Punjab.
Consequently Delhi contributed more taxes to the center.
Why it is getting less money than Punjab?

As I mentioned, its not a proportional system liked to GDP alone. The other factors I listed are representative of what goes in to actual calculations. Then you have special states to take care of, states like Bihar love to get on that special status list.

Its the same worldwide; in US for instance, California has a huge GDP, compare that to Mississippi, do you think the federal grants are proportional?

Besides, Delhi is a pseudo-state that has significantly less burden compared to a full fledged state as it does not have to provide for police, reduced bureaucratic overheads etc.

Ultimately, when you live in an union, you have to share the resources and burden. Regionalism above nationalism is just another scourge that regional players such as Kejru or Mamta or Nitish like to flare up and take advantage of.

 

[mehboobkz]

I think @Nicky G explained it very well above. Again, she has provided the direction but you will have to do some of the work yourself. Like you're leader you prefer to trade insults because you have NO. Rational arguments and too lazy to actually look for them.
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My dialogue was with you, one on one.
Wherein you failed miserably for lack of substantiation against your own tall claims.
With Nicky types, I will deal separately.

As I mentioned, its not a proportional system liked to GDP alone. The other factors I listed are representative of what goes in to actual calculations. Then you have special states to take care of, states like Bihar love to get on that special status list.

Its the same worldwide; in US for instance, California has a huge GDP, compare that to Mississippi, do you think the federal grants are proportional?

Besides, Delhi is a pseudo-state that has significantly less burden compared to a full fledged state as it does not have to provide for police, reduced bureaucratic overheads etc.

Ultimately, when you live in an union, you have to share the resources and burden. Regionalism above nationalism is just another scourge that regional players such as Kejru or Mamta or Nitish like to flare up and take advantage of.

So its arbitrary.
And if so, why can not center give good amount of funds to its capital?

 

[Nicky G]

So its arbitrary.
And if so, why can not center give good amount of funds to its capital?

The formula is determined by the Financial Commission, so I'd hardly call it arbitrary. I am not sure if the exact formula is in public domain, but we should be able to dig out the factors considered, I already provided a representative list.

Define good amounts. As a pseudo-state, Delhi already gets more than it deserves in many senses. It is after all a glorified municipality below the likes of Mumbai for instance.

Besides, you do know that the state government has to devolve its funds to local bodies, right? So do you mean Kejru's government is doing the same at his level arbitrarily? Should I bring up how one local body is being paid more than another even though tax collections are higher?

Dear sir / madam, countries the size of India don't work this way.

 

[Sky lord]

My dialogue was with you, one on one.
Wherein you failed miserably for lack of substantiation against your own tall claims.
With Nicky types, I will deal separately.



So its arbitrary.
And if so, why can not center give good amount of funds to its capital?

It's NOT arbitrary you dunce! That is what we have been explaining to you for the last several pages.


Jeez

 

[ZooZoo]

Dear sir



OK cool.............I completly agree with u

@Oscar

Sorry Carried away.. I am ex-AAPTard . Disapponinted with Hitler (Kejriwal)....

Was not meant to offend you..

 

[mehboobkz]

The formula is determined by the Financial Commission, so I'd hardly call it arbitrary. I am not sure if the exact formula is in public domain, but we should be able to dig out the factors considered.

Determined on what fundamentals or principle?

And why was Modi crying for the same funds (from center) while he was the Gujarat CM?