Regional Intelligence Chiefs met in Islamabad at ISI headquarters - 11th Sep 2021.

[Sal12]

Gave you a full blown insurgency in Balochistan with large parts openly hostile to Pakistan

Democracy handled it with diplomacy making it much better ,now Balochistan insurgency/hostility is much better

Multi ethnic nations suffer internal issues during dictatorship

If we were not as diverse a country I would have advocated for it but it doesn't suit us

Look at the long term, we want to be here for the next 100 years- dictatorship won't work here

Again this insurgency in Balochistan was restarted in later half of Musharf's rule and even then this insurgency was not as bad as it is today. Baloschistan has seen insurgency in 50s, 70s and now since last 13-14 years. Dictatorship isn't good but look at our politicians. They are even worse than dictators.

When dictator goes then he goes for ever and he never returns to the power again where as our politicians never goes. They keep looting the country again and again and then prepare their off springs to further plunder the country.

Dictatorship isn't the answer so is this fraud democracy. Actually this dictatorship is better than the democracy we have in Pak.

 

[Khan_21]

Pak has touched the GDP growth rate of 8% in Musharaf's era so no comparison with IK where GDP growth was 2.0, -0.1 and 3.9 in last 3 years. Actually GDP growth was even better in NS tenure than IK.

Only in Mushraf's rule, Pak's foreign debut were reduced otherwise through out in history of pak each ruler has increased the burden of debt on Pak. Pak was stuck in debt with IMF in 90's then Musharaf kicked out IMF and then IMF came back again after Mushraf departed and this is 12th year since PAk is stuck with IMF.

Musharaf gave you Block 52 F16 with AMRAM. JF17 also matured in his tenure as well as missile program. Mushraf also gave you SPD and NSA.

Each state institution i.e. PIA, railway, Steel mill and even PTV were in profit in Mushraf's rule.

All major telecom companies in Pak came during Mushraf rule.

Musharaf is the one who opened the electronic media though this media proved to be another curse for PAk. The number of universities got doubled in Musharf's era.

Only Musharaf knew how to handle India otherwise all rulers after Musharaf including your pussy IK were submissive to India. Look at IK how IK was begging India not to retaliate after pulwama attack.

The dollar was throughout stable in Mushrafs rule while dollar has reached from 125PKR to 168PKR in your pussy IK's 3 years rule.

The terrorism has started in last days of Musharaf when Musharaf already became very weak due to lawyer's movement other wise Musharf's era was peaceful.

Mushraf has expanded the Mangla Dam to increase the capacity twice.

Comparing IK with Musharaf is actually insult of Musharaf. Musharaf did make many mistakes but even with those mistakes Musharaf was far far better than Zardari, IK and NS.

Instability had already started in 2002-03 and by mid 2000's was already instable.

8% growth rate was US aid. It always happens during military rule because they end up getting shit load of US aid.

Also tell your dear musharraf to come back and face supreme court over corruption charges. He is charged with billions of corruption charges and illegal allotment of land to his incompetent jernails.

 

[Sal12]

Instability had already started in 2002-03 and by mid 2000's was already instable.

8% growth rate was US aid. It always happens during military rule because they end up getting shit load of US aid.

Also tell your dear musharraf to come back and face supreme court over corruption charges. He is charged with billions of corruption charges and illegal allotment of land to his incompetent jernails.

This is factually incorrect. Instability has started after Lal masjid operation in 2007 when lawyers movement was also going on.

As far as Aid is concerned then Pak got Kerry lugar financial package in PPP era which was bigger than those Aids of Musharf era. This package lasted in first half of NS.

The corruption of Musharaf or his fellow generals are not even match to Khurshid Shah let alone NS and Zardari.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Since Covid Fiasco in India. Modi chuuuup kar ek kone me bheta hua hai.

India k upar aik k baad aik mazalim ho rae hain.

I think Indian establishment has told him to shut up.

 

[ARMalik]

Again this insurgency in Balochistan was restarted in later half of Musharf's rule and even then this insurgency was not as bad as it is today. Baloschistan has seen insurgency in 50s, 70s and now since last 13-14 years. Dictatorship isn't good but look at our politicians. They are even worse than dictators.

When dictator goes then he goes for ever and he never returns to the power again where as our politicians never goes. They keep looting the country again and again and then prepare their off springs to further plunder the country.

Dictatorship isn't the answer so is this fraud democracy. Actually this dictatorship is better than the democracy we have in Pak.

Instability had already started in 2002-03 and by mid 2000's was already instable.

8% growth rate was US aid. It always happens during military rule because they end up getting shit load of US aid.

Also tell your dear musharraf to come back and face supreme court over corruption charges. He is charged with billions of corruption charges and illegal allotment of land to his incompetent jernails.

All this has nothing to do with ISI Chief hosting regional Spy Chiefs. You fellows can open a different thread and continue arguing there. You are DERAILING THIS THREAD.

 

[HRK]

i am surprised, Pakistan seems like a global power.. very impressivr

its just beginning .... but road ahead is still very bumpy

 

[maverick1977]

its just beginning .... but road ahead is still very bumpy

This government is assertive and tries its best to earn respect for the country and its people. This is unknown for Pakistan in last 30 years

 

[Aesterix]

Dictatorship is the only situation and progress for Pakistan. I miss Musharf days where Pakistan really progressed in standard of living. In Pakistan, Democracy is a cancer.

UAE, KSA, Oman, Jordan, Thailand, Qatar, Egypt, Kuwit and Singpore all progressed under king or dictatorship.

Totally agree.

 

[Kharral]

No, he is not. He is a charlatan.

Saleem Safi is cautiously calling this meeting as 'major step forward' in making Afghanistan not as a bone of contention between these powers but a bridge of connection.
Safi is one of the most informed persons in the world about Afghanistan. Rahimullah Yusufzai was one more and he passed away recently. RIP. Others to watch are Pakistan's former ambassador to Afghanistan Rustum Shah. They are all Pashtun, BTW.
PS. When EVERYONE was predicting a bloody civil war, Pakistan's General Tariq Khan made a bold prediction several weeks ago that no civil war! He said how can that be when one side is surrendering. His video is still on this forum from weeks ago. He is the only one proven correct about what unfolded on 15 Aug. 2021 when Kabul fell to the Taliban -- that date was incidentally also India's Independence Day

No, he is not. He is a charlatan.

 

[kursed]

The meeting is being held under the ambit of SCO, India was invited but they wanted to turn this into another one of those pissing contests and refused to come to Pakistan. They were dropped by the chair from attending the meeting (Uzbeks).

This is from the SCO Foreign Ministers' meet, just two days ago:

"Cautioned against the possibility of incitement and role of spoilers, both inside and outside the country, to derail efforts towards an all-inclusive political settlement in Afghanistan.

Reiterated that terrorist organizations, such as ISIS, Al-Qaeda, ETIM, TTP, BLA, Jondollah and others should not be allowed to maintain a foothold on Afghanistan's territory."

系统维护_中华人民共和国外交部

www.fmprc.gov.cn

 

[nahtanbob]

Dictatorship is the only situation and progress for Pakistan. I miss Musharf days where Pakistan really progressed in standard of living. In Pakistan, Democracy is a cancer.

UAE, KSA, Oman, Jordan, Thailand, Qatar, Egypt, Kuwit and Singpore all progressed under king or dictatorship.

tell us about North Korea and Myanmar

Pak has touched the GDP growth rate of 8% in Musharaf's era so no comparison with IK where GDP growth was 2.0, -0.1 and 3.9 in last 3 years. Actually GDP growth was even better in NS tenure than IK.

Only in Mushraf's rule, Pak's foreign debut were reduced otherwise through out in history of pak each ruler has increased the burden of debt on Pak. Pak was stuck in debt with IMF in 90's then Musharaf kicked out IMF and then IMF came back again after Mushraf departed and this is 12th year since PAk is stuck with IMF.

Musharaf gave you Block 52 F16 with AMRAM. JF17 also matured in his tenure as well as missile program. Mushraf also gave you SPD and NSA.

Each state institution i.e. PIA, railway, Steel mill and even PTV were in profit in Mushraf's rule.

All major telecom companies in Pak came during Mushraf rule.

Musharaf is the one who opened the electronic media though this media proved to be another curse for PAk. The number of universities got doubled in Musharf's era.

Only Musharaf knew how to handle India otherwise all rulers after Musharaf including your pussy IK were submissive to India. Look at IK how IK was begging India not to retaliate after pulwama attack.

The dollar was throughout stable in Mushrafs rule while dollar has reached from 125PKR to 168PKR in your pussy IK's 3 years rule.

The terrorism has started in last days of Musharaf when Musharaf already became very weak due to lawyer's movement other wise Musharf's era was peaceful.

Mushraf has expanded the Mangla Dam to increase the capacity twice.

Comparing IK with Musharaf is actually insult of Musharaf. Musharaf did make many mistakes but even with those mistakes Musharaf was far far better than Zardari, IK and NS.

how much foreign aid flowed during musharraf compared to Imran Khan