Regional consensus: Islamabad tells ‘external actors’ not to meddle with Kabul!

[Norwegian]

had we given them that mujib the traiter who had been in indian lap since early 60s would have became the prime minister of pakistan
what would have become of us them ?
there are multiple sides to every issue no country would allow a traitor to become its leader

Better sitting in Indian lap than sitting in US-Saudi lap for decades

We? what do u mean by we?

We (Pakistani sources).

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Ha ha a 4th gen persecuted convert whose ancestors never ever ventured outside their village.....

Irony is ....The Baloch persecution is still going on after conversion

So your ancestors were subdued by "persecuted converts" ? seems you rank much lower on the food chain.. now remember your worth.. n stay down ..

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Better sitting in Indian lap than sitting in US-Saudi lap for decades


We (Pakistani sources).

I have the credentials to call myself a Pakistani but u dont have those. Pakistani is nationality not an ethnicity.

 

[Norwegian]

I have the credentials to call myself a Pakistani but u dont have those. Pakistani is nationality not an ethnicity.

Really? I can send you my passport nr and birth certificate from Holy Family Hospital, Rawalpindi to prove that I am infact from Pakistan

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Here go ahead:
The ISI’s Great Game in Afghanistan | The Diplomat

according to you we should have left afghanistan alone for northern alliance to claim it and use it against us those tajik uzbat nuts are our enemy they would do anything to hurt us
u want my little evil pakistan to be sand witched between two enemies who want to destro us
not to mention our border conflict with the aghan state in 60s proved that afghans as a whole cant be trusted apart from a few pushtun factions
the bad blood between us goes a long way back

Better sitting in Indian lap than sitting in US-Saudi lap for decades


We (Pakistani sources).

what the hell does that mean
had we allowed it there wouldnt have been any pakistan today no pakistan no bangladesh
akhand barat every where and u probably dont have any idea what that means of us pesky evil muslims
look at the modis india trailer has just released there

 

[Norwegian]

according to you we should have left afghanistan alone for northern alliance to claim it and use it against us those tajik uzbat nuts are our enemy they would do anything to hurt us
u want my little evil pakistan to be sand witched between two enemies who want to destro us
not to mention our border conflict with the aghan state in 60s proved that afghans as a whole cant be trusted apart from a few pushtun factions
the bad blood between us goes a long way back

There is something called Islamic Republic of Iran. When war broke-out in Afghanistan, they, unlike us sealed their borders. They completely disassociated themselves with Soviet Union? WHY? Because it was NOT their war. Why did Pakistan meddle with Soviet-Afghan war on behest of US is still a mystery to me! It was NOT our war. Neither was 9/11 that left 50,000+ Pakistanis dead since 2001!

what the hell does that mean
had we allowed it there wouldnt have been any pakistan today no pakistan no bangladesh
akhand barat every where and u probably dont have any idea what that means of us pesky evil muslims
look at the modis india trailer has just been released there

BS. After liberation of Bangladesh, India left that former part of Pakistan alone instead of annexing it. Are you sure India wanted to annex entire Pakistan when it agreed on its partition back in 1947?

 

[kaku1]

Better sitting in Indian lap than sitting in US-Saudi lap for decades


We (Pakistani sources).

You are right on many points. I dont know why the Pakistan chooses Saudi Arabia as a friend in Arab world, and why not a path like sweet tone diplomacy. Keeping all happy, Israel, KSA and Iran.

But Pakistan chooses a very different path, it took a very extremist mindset in foreign policy. No one can deny that, KSA is the major source of funding for wahabism inside Pak, and actually it make the situation worse. It radicalize and polarized the society.

I dont know, why ISI silent on this,, even this is also as major threat as India. But no, how can we take action against our brotherhood nation? Why the Pakistani politician is not understanding a simple fact, no one is there brother in this world.

 

[Sage]

isn't islamabad an external player too ??

Wont you say the same for Bangladesh

 

[Norwegian]

But Pakistan chooses a very different path, it took a very extremist mindset in foreign policy. No one can deny that, KSA is the major source of funding for wahabism inside Pak, and actually it make the situation worse. It radicalize and polarized the society.

Its because Saudis funded Pakistani nukes alongside Libya decades ago

I dont know, why ISI silent on this,, even this is also as major threat as India. But no, how can we take action against our brotherhood nation? Why the Pakistani politician is not understanding a simple fact, no one is there brother in this world.

Because of that infamous Two-Nation theory. We thought millions of Afghan refugees were "our" brothers until they started meddling with our arch-enemy India

 

[haviZsultan]

had we given them that mujib the traiter who had been in indian lap since early 60s would have became the prime minister of pakistan
what would have become of us them ?
there are multiple sides to every issue no country would allow a traitor to become its leader

We should have let him... it was better than the option we used. What could he have done, break the country without the backing of the countrymen. We pushed public opinion to his side by using the army to crush a local movement. It ZAB's hunger for power, yahya tikka and niazi's violence and brutality that caused Bengal to be divided.

 

[Norwegian]

We should have let him... it was better than the option we used. What could he have done, break the country without the backing of the countrymen. We pushed public opinion to his side by using the army to crush a local movement. It ZAB's hunger for power, yahya tikka and niazi's violence and brutality that caused Bengal to be divided.

Perfectly reasoned! Ayub in fact hated Bengalis and insulted them on many occasions!

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

There is something called Islamic Republic of Iran. When war broke-out in Afghanistan, they, unlike us sealed their borders. They completely disassociated themselves with Soviet Union? WHY? Because it was NOT their war. Why did Pakistan meddle with Soviet-Afghan war on behest of US is still a mystery to me!
It was NOT our war. Neither was 9/11 that left 50,000+ Pakistanis dead since 2001!

no they didnt they accepted afghan refugess as much we did but they kept them under control
its not that much of a mystery pakistan saw it as an opportunity to get rid of anti pakistan afghan regime and a proper shield against our nuclear ambition before the start of war americans were furious at us as second we became there jihad buddies if afghanistan they left us alone
its was not our war ?
maybe maybe not
soviets were always expantionists they entered afghanistan the second they saw an opportunity
had they succeded the communist party of pakistan would have been jolly and zia was not gonna rule pakistan forever the political climate could have easily allowed soviets to expand their influence in pakisan not to mention the india factor
the rest u can guess
now lets go to 9/11
we were given a choice a straight forward choice either u stand with us or we **** u
american would have attacked kabul with or without our help thats a fact
facing more sanctions was not an option at the time a crippled economy cant bare more burden
a part for this mushy had a lot more reasons to help americans to name a few f 16s etc
but we should have learned from the past and should have moved a couple of hundred thousand troops to western border to seal it
peace

 

[kaku1]

Its because Saudis funded Pakistani nukes alongside Libya decades ago

Yes, but they cant do a thing to Pak. Did they?

When Pak start to loose its inferiority complex to KSA ( including arab world), why not start to take some hard stand against KSA? KSA is not "thekedaar" of all Muslims, and they are not the only one who knows Islam.

Because of that infamous Two-Nation theory. We thought millions of Afghan refugees were "our" brothers until they started meddling with our arch-enemy India

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The two-nation theory is best for taking independence from India, but that should be ended in 14 Aug 1947, there was no use of this tool after that. But instead Zia ul Haq fueled this theory further. It become from independence tool to a political tool, which role was actually power control for dictator like ZIa ul haq. And then it used again and again.

It was cool to taking help from US of A, but making enemy because of this was not cool at all.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

We should have let him... it was better than the option we used. What could he have done, break the country without the backing of the countrymen. We pushed public opinion to his side by using the army to crush a local movement. It ZAB's hunger for power, yahya tikka and niazi's violence and brutality that caused Bengal to be divided.

just think what u r saying ?
we know from his time as bangladeshs prime minister that he was nothing more than an indian puppet had we alowed him to rule us how to you think indra ghanghi would have used him we all know that old lady was tough as hell she wouldnt have left us alone
a traitor leader a confused military could have undone pakistan in a short time i can live with having half of the country we once had rather than having no country at all

 

[kaku1]

just think what u r saying ?
we know from his time as bangladeshs prime minister that he was nothing more than an indian puppet had we alowed him to rule us how to you think indra ghanghi would have used him we all know that old lady was tough as hell she wouldnt have left us alone
a traitor leader a confused army are a sure ingredients of disaster
zab was only power hungry i can live with that

Isnt 1971 was disaster enough for Pak?

When the whole military leadership of Pak knows that, they cant defend East Pak in a case of Indian invasion, then why not thinking of negotiations and start to accommodate an east pakistani origin PM?