Recent Sino-Indian border conflict

[q12093487q]

In my opinion the win- win scenario is，indians can claim victory on media and international forums to fill up their growing nationalist sentiment while china can win in reality by fully control the whole dolkom

I suspect there must be some secret deal be made between PLA and indian army，this is indeed a win -win situation，I just hope china and india can work together to make more deal like this case，so everyone will be happy，cheers

 

[$@rJen]

Too bad for you that the satellite pictures show the reality, China has militarized the whole of Donglang plateau with permanent garrisons, helipads and multiple major roads.

Whereas India is nowhere to be seen.

What happened to India's "mutual defence treaty" with Bhutan? Did you write and sign it on a piece of toilet paper?

"Militarized whole" my brown @ss

Build a road where you were blocked kid.... After the humiliation you built something well within your territory and now showing that off
PLA should be dumb to build something within a mortar strikes ... helipad will be the first to go.... A long way for the supplies to reach... Take out few Bridges...bthe rest of the poor pla soldiers will run away

Denial is good for Indian. Instead of rebuke the proven proof. Indian has to hide embarrassment by trolling. No wonder Indian got kicked badly in 1962.

Proof!???
Kid... Don't be proud of attacking few soldiers who had no proper weapons with force by surprise...
Well what can I expect after all you people are the backstabbing race right.... That's why Japan and Mongolians thought you a good lesson

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Lol.... Look look someone is being proud of constructing something meaningless inside their own territory...

Oh so you now consider Donglang to be "Chinese territory"?

What a change in position!

 

[sinait]

See top to understand where the flat piece of high elevation land is. We occupied that whole plateau, confirmed again by Raj47 or Colonel Vinayak Bhat(retd). Now, the only question is this, how long do you think the road postponement will last? We only agreed to postpone the road, we never agreed to STOP the road. . Before this the whole Doklam Plateau only had roads, no supporting defense structure whatsoever, In a span of a few months, China militarize the whole plateau. My bet is after the defenses are up and running, we will flank you guys and continue to build the road, this time, the stakes are so high, you won't dare to cross it. This was proven by the recent UAV downing, until today not a squeak even after we confiscated your 12milUS$ drone.

Doka La is just a sliver of land on a ridge.
Now that China is controlling the plateau, access to Doka la is limited.
Next time, the Chinese just have to push them over the ridge to their doom.
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[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Too bad for you that the satellite pictures show the reality, China has militarized the whole of Donglang plateau with permanent garrisons, helipads and multiple major roads.

Whereas India is nowhere to be seen.

What happened to India's "mutual defence treaty" with Bhutan? Did you write and sign it on a piece of toilet paper?

It's all going back to pre-Americana world of 100 years back!!! It's about the inter-play of multiple great players (aka Empires) with ever changing dynamics!!! Only sharp minded folks with razor edge intelligence can play it with extreme patience and perseverance. Sacrifice of men and materials needs to be done at a moment's notice for the high goals. Fickle minded folks with shallow understanding and pockets will fizzle out before they know it!!!! The Show Must Go On.....

 

[Han Patriot]

Doka La is just a sliver of land on a ridge.
Now that China is controlling the plateau, access to Doka la is limited.
Next time, the Chinese just have to push them over the ridge to their doom.
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Doka La is a sliver of land on the fringes of the plateau. so when the Indians claim they didn't leave Doklam Plateau, it's correct, because a small portion of that plateau is within their borders. That's hw they bullshit their populace into thinking they are still in control. They also claim nothing happened at 'the point of conflict' without specifying how big or how far the area is. They just closed one eye when we build that base right next to the 'point of conflict' as long as no roads, they save face. Essentially they are willing to give up strategic areas just to save face, this is the short term ego I was talking about. And as Brahma said, they won a battle postponing a road, but lost the war by letting us occupy the plateau. Typical penny wise pound foolish attitude, this tactic can be recycled over and over again, these people are short term thinkers.

 

[sweetgrape]

Low IQ indian don't know what's is politeness, any try to reason with them is wasting time. Just like in 1962,
We had good relationship, but these sh!t really think they were more superior and someone, now they still be that, the Donglang Affair just make us know it more clearly, If indian really smart encough, their country should be richer than China with much better foreign environment, these indian with pig brain.

 

[sinait]

Doka La is a sliver of land on the fringes of the plateau. so when the Indians claim they didn't leave Doklam Plateau, it's correct, because a small portion of that plateau is within their borders. That's hw they bullshit their populace into thinking they are still in control. They also claim nothing happened at 'the point of conflict' without specifying how big or how far the area is. They just closed one eye when we build that base right next to the 'point of conflict' as long as no roads, they save face. Essentially they are willing to give up strategic areas just to save face, this is the short term ego I was talking about. And as Brahma said, they won a battle postponing a road, but lost the war by letting us occupy the plateau. Typical penny wise pound foolish attitude, this tactic can be recycled over and over again, these people are short term thinkers.

The watershed on Indian side is steep, a landslide or avalanche by an explosion on the plateau and the Indian soldiers are doomed.
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[Han Patriot]

Indians should snap out of their imperialist dreams and recognize the McMahon line as illegal and a very sneaky play by their ex-British master to create tension in this region. Recognize that the McMahon line drawn by the British imperialist on Chinese soil without Qing dynasty authority but solely with separatist Tibetan monks and themselves (Simla Accord (1914)) is illegal and have zero factual basis (example: signing treaty with Hawaiian separatist group recognizing American border limits with a hostile foreign power). Indian government knew well that it is illegal, they also know that it is they themselves under Jawaharlal Nehru decided to acted on their British masters imaginary line and expanded into Chinese territory (Neville Maxwell's India's China War book is banned by Indian government for exposing them). Remember what happened in 1962? Indians like to convince themselves that "Chinese betrayed us! We were friends and they attacked us!" oh really, India?
Previous border clashes and recent Doklam tension shows India still have not changed one bit, if anything India is trying become more eager and aggressive. As a responsible major regional power, China will do what it must to keep Indian imperialist policy in check while still determined to promote mutual benefit (OBOR) for all.
Are Indians aware they are being pulled to the dark side?

Previously China had no intention of militarizing the Doklam plateau, but Indians love to self-fulfill their own prophecies.

This is the typical penny wise pound foolish Indians, very myopic view of things. Had they left us alone, it would have just been roads, no military facilities at all. We didn't recognized a demarcated border as a potential conflict point, we were just patrolling it occasionally while negotiating with Bhutan to settle the border. India just created another conflict zone, and pushed us to reciprocate by intervening on behalf of Pakistan. Before this we were only helping Pakistan indirectly, there are giving us the excuse to be in Kashmir.

Do you guys realize, China after Doklam became even more aggressive with base building in Pakistan and arming Pakistan? We gave peace a chance but these supa powans really think they are comparable with China.

 

[Deino]

Guys ... this topic is NOT on ethnics, NOT on NATO-politics, NOT on USA-Turkish relationship or Russian military.

No rants, no offense, no insults and even more posting BS-videos and comics are not allowed.

Either you stay on topic - which has to be related to the Chinese military - or you continue this now almost pure political discussion in the correct section, but NOT here.

Deino

 

[Han Patriot]

Official response from CHINA MOFA on troop stationing in Doklam on 15/1/2018, simple straight to the point and no bullshit unlike the Indian MEA.

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/2511_665403/t1525880.shtml

Q: For what you said about the comment by the Indian army chief, he also said that China was exerting pressure along several border areas and India has made sure the situation did not escalate beyond certain point. Maybe through his comments, he wanted the Indian public to know that he was praising about the India-China relations. What exactly you have taken exception to his comments?

A: I have made myself clear just now. If this senior officer was referring to China's Dong Lang, this particular area, then I believe you are quite clear about our position. The Dong Lang area has all along been part of China and under China's continuous and effective jurisdiction. And we are exercising our sovereignty rights and upholding territorial sovereignty in accordance with the stipulations of historical conventions by stationing Chinese border troops in the Dong Lang area and having them patrol the area. I said just now that we hope the Indian side could learn its lessons from that and avoid a recurrence of last year's events.

The watershed on Indian side is steep, a landslide or avalanche by an explosion on the plateau and the Indian soldiers are doomed.
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That's the beuty of this chess game, we essentially pushed them to the Doka La corner, they have no space to expand. By locking them at the Doka La area, we buy time to build on the whole plateau. Since day 1, I tried to say this, the plateau is the strategic part not the ridge nor the valley, by hook or by crook we need to occupy it.

 

[Beast]

Official response from CHINA MOFA on troop stationing in Doklam on 15/1/2018, simple straight to the point and no bullshit unlike the Indian MEA.

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/2511_665403/t1525880.shtml

Q: For what you said about the comment by the Indian army chief, he also said that China was exerting pressure along several border areas and India has made sure the situation did not escalate beyond certain point. Maybe through his comments, he wanted the Indian public to know that he was praising about the India-China relations. What exactly you have taken exception to his comments?

A: I have made myself clear just now. If this senior officer was referring to China's Dong Lang, this particular area, then I believe you are quite clear about our position. The Dong Lang area has all along been part of China and under China's continuous and effective jurisdiction. And we are exercising our sovereignty rights and upholding territorial sovereignty in accordance with the stipulations of historical conventions by stationing Chinese border troops in the Dong Lang area and having them patrol the area. I said just now that we hope the Indian side could learn its lessons from that and avoid a recurrence of last year's events.


That's the beuty of this chess game, we essentially pushed them to the Doka La corner, they have no space to expand. By locking them at the Doka La area, we buy time to build on the whole plateau. Since day 1, I tried to say this, the plateau is the strategic part not the ridge nor the valley, by hook or by crook we need to occupy it.

No, the delusion Indian fans will claim the one occupy by PLA is not Doklam plateau and Indian won.

 

[Han Patriot]

http://www.mea.gov.in/media-briefin...+to+queries+regarding+the+situation+in+doklam

Official Spokesperson's response to queries regarding the situation in Doklam
January 18, 2018

In response to media queries about the situation in Doklam, the Official Spokesperson said:

''Our attention has been drawn to some reports that question the accuracy of the position stated by the Government in respect to the situation in Doklam.

It may be recalled that last year, a face-off situation that had arisen in the Doklam region, was resolved following diplomatic discussions between India and China, based on which both sides arrived at an understanding for the disengagement of their border personnel at the face-off site.

Subsequently, in response to repeated questions about any change in the status quo at the face-off site, Government had stated that there was no basis for such imputations. Government would once again reiterate that the status quo at the face-off site has not been altered. Any suggestion to the contrary is inaccurate and mischievous.''

Notice how the Indian MEA omitted the word 'vicinity' from their usual generic statement. The radius seems to be getting smaller by the day.

 

[Beast]

The watershed on Indian side is steep, a landslide or avalanche by an explosion on the plateau and the Indian soldiers are doomed.
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Unsurprisely, Chinese is always on the higher ground (Tibet, Doklam Plateau, decision making) compare to Indians.

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/957537591024218113