What's new

REARMING of JAPAN

Correct. Japan is democratic, its leaders are chosen by free elections.

Vietnam should rather recognise Taiwan than China. Democratic Taiwan is 100 times better than commie China. Unlike mainland Chinese, we like the people in Taiwan.

Thanks for liking us, we have reputation of being the mixing pot of Asian cuisines~~;)

but regarding democratic Taiwan vs one party mainland, I won't say Taiwan is necessarily better in every way........in fact, democracy is a double-edged sword, we gained some but also lost some.

so why don't you give back the islands you occupied to Taiwan?They have the same territorial claim as we do.:cheesy:

hehe, yeah, both TW and mainland have the same claim for Diayu island and south China sea ~~
Ma Yin Jyo is just a way way way too peaceful leader to assert anything against others
 
.
This should be called according to wikipedia "retaliation against Vietnam's invasion of Kampuchea". Heck maybe you could even use the same word for napalming and agent oranging the Vietcongs.

So Cambodia is part of China? China invades Vietnam because of that?
 
.
So Cambodia is part of China? China invades Vietnam because of that?

Let me spell it out for you: "helping a friend", i don't recall claiming Cambodia as part of China though that's coming out from your mouth only
 
. . .
Let me spell it out for you: "helping a friend", i don't recall claiming Cambodia as part of China though that's coming out from your mouth only

So China's Best Friends

- Pol Pot
- Kim Jong Il/Kim Jong Eun
- Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
- Robert Mugabe

China's Sworn Enemy

- Dalai Lama
- Norwegian Nobel Committee
- Ai Wei Wei
- Liu Xiaobo
- Vatican
- Western Human Rights Organizations

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-15768925

China welcomes Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe as 'old friend'

China's vice-president Xi Jinping held talks in Beijing with Zimbabwean leader Robert Mugabe

China's vice-president has held talks in Beijing with Zimbabwean leader Robert Mugabe, whom he praised as an "old friend" of China.

Xi Jinping said the 87-year-old was "a famed leader of the national liberation movement in Africa".

Helping the Khmer Rouge? Really? How did that go?

China lost 30K troops in less than a month and fled.
 
.
So China's Best Friends

- Pol Pot
- Kim Jong Il/Kim Jong Eun
- Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
- Robert Mugabe

China's Sworn Enemy

- Dalai Lama
- Norwegian Nobel Committee
- Ai Wei Wei
- Liu Xiaobo
- Vatican
- Western Human Rights Organizations

America's who*e
- South Korea
- Japan
- EU
- Philippines

America's who*e to be
- Vietnam
 
. .
whether japan rearms or not, it doesnt change the fact that the glory of japan is over. if we take a look at the current situation. with the back of USA in military terms like aircraft, ship, missile and all weapons, japan ACTUALLY rearmed already. "Rearming" is just the official word and legalization for what they already did eiither secretly or openly. so, the rearming of japan doesnt make any drastically change to its strength and balance of the region. therefore, japanese rearming doesnt provide any hope to vietnamese and filipino like they are hoping as showed in this thead.
 
.
whether japan rearms or not, it doesnt change the fact that the glory of japan is over. if we take a look at the current situation. with the back of USA in military terms like aircraft, ship, missile and all weapons, japan ACTUALLY rearmed already. "Rearming" is just the official word and legalization for what they already did eiither secretly or openly. so, the rearming of japan doesnt make any drastically change to its strength and balance of the region. therefore, japanese rearming doesnt provide any hope to vietnamese and filipino like they are hoping as showed in this thead.

Really sir please look at the level of technologies of the two countries is? In terms of tech the Japanese wins that also goes for military tech and they train with US all the time imparting military tactics and experiences the Chinese on the other hand zero military experience and no one training them who have been in real wars in terms of the Americans teaching the Japanese so both artificial experience and technology the Japanese will owned the Chinese in any military engagement but the problems of the Japanese is they have been limited by their constitution limits their military capabilities and there military defense strategy depends on American help but with this changes they should be about to update their defenses tactics to a level they would not just be sole dependent of American help
 
.
For those who support a re-militarized Japan must have some sort of Stockholm syndromes or are they simply self imposed sadists?

map-japanese-empire.gif

Courtesy to gpit

Dude, if you think when Japan remilitarize, it will go back to something like WW2 right??

That mean you also said China will be a PUSHOVER like it did in WW2 then.

Dude, you cannot use what a country did 70 odd years ago as a rason to justify a decision the same country have to gone thru TODAY. that's the idea, situation changed. THe consitution should too. THat is the idea why.


Not if you exercise limited conflicts by restricting it to the sea or like what we are doing now, waging economic warfare. There is little to be gained by going in land.

The same, depend on where you rage a sea war.

If you are raging a sea war within international water with Japan, Japan warship cannot gone international unless escorted by US warship.

If you are raging a sea war within Japan territorial water, then you are invading japan. There are more US warship moving around Japan then there are Japanese warship (We got about 130 warship in 2 CSG in Japan while Japan only have 40 odds warship with the whole JMSDF.)

And that would be an invasion of Japan and will draw the US Navy to response.

Can we stop with the country bashing & stick to the topic which is the rearming of Japan. China & Japan won't go to war with each other because both country Economy is tied to each other. Japan sinks China will follow. The ECS conflict will be nothing more than both country sending ships back & forth into disputed territory.

Many people failed to see trading is a 2 way street, China lost as much capital than Japan lose its gain. Without Japan this biggest customer, who will take it place?? Chinese never thought of that.

And yes, this topic have been derailed a lot....

Do you even know that USA was the No. 1 supporter of Khmer Rouge? If not, I must say Americans were brainwashed to the core. CCP has a lot to learn.

Just googled "USA Khmer Rouge", here is the first link.

The U.S. Is Even More Guilty Than Pol Pot

Technically speaking, US support Thai regime while Thai physically supported Khmer Rouge Regime, they may be pro-US but US have nothing to do with it, get your fact right first.

Really sir please look at the level of technologies of the two countries is? In terms of tech the Japanese wins that also goes for military tech and they train with US all the time imparting military tactics and experiences the Chinese on the other hand zero military experience and no one training them who have been in real wars in terms of the Americans teaching the Japanese so both artificial experience and technology the Japanese will owned the Chinese in any military engagement but the problems of the Japanese is they have been limited by their constitution limits their military capabilities and there military defense strategy depends on American help but with this changes they should be about to update their defenses tactics to a level they would not just be sole dependent of American help

Japanese is a well trained troop, but the problem is, there are less Japanese troop, A LOT LESS, then there were Chinese Troop. According to the latest info, Japan have less than 150,000 Ground troop while China is touching 3 millions. IN a textbook Island warfare engagment, the best scenario for Japan is for them to own the sea and air, which will result in the attacking troop into a 10:1 fight. Which is still lower than the 15:1 ratio of Chinese/Japan Troop number. And that is the best scenario, in term of war, i don't think Japan can get the upperhand on sea and air. Which will drop the attacking troop ratio to 7/8:1

Technically speaking, if China were to attack Japan today, they would just roll over and died. If we raise the troop of Japan to a total of 500,000 and 300,000 ground troop, that will achieve the 10:1 ratio, which just ssatisify the best case scenario with Japan.
 
.
Dude, if you think when Japan remilitarize, it will go back to something like WW2 right??

That mean you also said China will be a PUSHOVER like it did in WW2 then.



Didn't I hear somewhere you're going for a master degree?
 
.
Didn't I hear somewhere you're going for a master degree?

what have my qualification again come into play in this forum??

War started when one size need something and think the other side are pushover, otherwise they will not start the war in the first place. Regardless on whether or not if the case is the truely the case, you will not start a war unless you have absolute sense that you either will win or got something out of it.

The way China did was a push over because Chinese have been fighting itself from the get go, i am not saying China is a push over now but back then, it was a push over to Japan. all the territories lose by China were achieved by first 2 years of the war. And only stopped when Japanese also think America is a push over and attack us in Pearl Harbor.

If you start a war and do not know for certain you can get out of it with something, you are really stupid.

Since you are saying Chinese is not the same Chinese back in 1938, how can you say Japan is the same Japan since 1938?? You know something about future that i don't??

Baseline is, EVERY COUNTRY have the right to defend itself. It DOES NOT MATTER what they did 70 years ago or 100 thousand years ago. This is the right given to a sovereign nation. No nation should be able to take it away. Not US, nor China. If there were a vote to change the constitution, only Japanese Voice count, you can say you don't agree with me, but you cannot say my view is incorrect.
 
.
Really sir please look at the level of technologies of the two countries is? In terms of tech the Japanese wins that also goes for military tech and they train with US all the time imparting military tactics and experiences the Chinese on the other hand zero military experience and no one training them who have been in real wars in terms of the Americans teaching the Japanese so both artificial experience and technology the Japanese will owned the Chinese in any military engagement but the problems of the Japanese is they have been limited by their constitution limits their military capabilities and there military defense strategy depends on American help but with this changes they should be about to update their defenses tactics to a level they would not just be sole dependent of American help

i dont believe much about the training program. the real battle field is not the same with assumed situation in training. besides, china have their own training too, the problem is that you know much about the training of japan or whatever but know little or nothing about how china military is. therefore, you overrate japan to the highest extreme .
Regarding technologies, the technologies of japan are not higher than USA, i dont believe they make better weapons than USA. at this time all top weapons of USA, which are better than japanese weapon, were already in service in Japan. this point out that japan actually rearmed already! but which such many top modern weapons in japan, japan still can do nothing to china. that is why i said that reaming of japan didnt change anything.
 
.
Didn't I hear somewhere you're going for a master degree?

you know what degree he will got? that is Phd degree of japanese views study. he mentioned that his wife got phd of east asia study blah blah. but to me, the correct name for that BSht degree is Phd degree of japanese views. why? he reasons sht like what japanese propaganda will tell you as if east asia has only japan! follow his idea, you will easily realize that japanese views supersede all the views of all east asia countries! if the study has only japan sht or japanese views, then nobody say east asia study :butcher:
 
.
Back
Top Bottom