Reactive armor does not help Ukrainian tanks

[Reashot Xigwin]

Reactive armor does not help Ukrainian tanks

Dynamic protection in most cases does not work

Detached tower tank with quiescent explosive reactive armor
At the end of the 1950s at the Moscow Research Institute of Steel under the leadership of Bogdan Wojciechowski developed the first examples of dynamic tank protection from the cumulative jet. In the mid-60s had a similar development in the German research engineer Manfred Held, and in 1982 the dynamic elements of protection have been installed on the first Merkava.

Dynamic protection of the second generation that emerged in the second half of the 1980s, began to be used not only against the cumulative jet, but also against kinetic munitions.

On the Ukrainian tanks installed elements DZ type "Contact", developed in the 70s. Constructively such reactive armor elements are metal boxes weighing 137 kg and the dimensions of 251.9 to 131.9 mm, which is placed 280 grams of explosive.

However, the development of reactive armor put forward strict requirements for insensitivity to fire means not threaten the armor of the tank, such as bullets, shells, small-caliber guns, artillery shell fragments.

Therefore, the charges of explosives, which are filled with explosive reactive armor, had Phlegmatized. This gave rise to the problem of insufficient sensitivity of these elements at the initiation of low-speed kinetic projectiles and even some types of cumulative munitions such as grenades the RPG.

Moreover, 10 years after the manufacture of explosives phlegmatizing it so that does not explode even at undermining TNT blocks.
The problem of failure DZ our tanks encountered during the Chechen campaigns. Therefore, our designers and began anew to find a solution to this problem.
It was solved only in Russia with the advent of dynamic protection 3rd generation "Relic", taken into service in 2006, established by Russian tanks T-72B2 "Slingshot" T-90cm.
In it the problem of protection against actuation in contact with non-hazardous for tank ammunition solved simply: explosive charge located behind a thick barrier, impenetrable fields, small-caliber projectiles and shrapnel .
Therefore Phlegmatized explosives in the "relict" is not necessary. Unfortunately, the "Relic" is established only to new tanks.

At the same Ukrainian tanks, as shown by the recent fighting, dynamic defense in most cases, does not work: the newest boxes made in 1991. Therefore, we can contemplate with tanks exploded ammunition, and explosive reactive armor intact.

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[Thəorətic Muslim]

Reactive armour only works if the anti-tank weapon hits the plate, its not going to work if the weapon hits an area that isn't covered.

 

[Penguin]

Above looks like hit by artillery. ERA isn't designed, intended to protect from artillery hits. Atlso not the tanks appear to be T-72, not T-80UD or OPLOT-M, which are equipoped with more modern ERA . THrid pic appaers T-64B/BM/BV

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[Etilla]

T-80 and T-84 are obsolete tanks especially for urban warfare. No wonder Russia is replacing T-80 with T-72.

 

[Penguin]

T-64

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

T-80 and T-84 are obsolete tanks especially for urban warfare. No wonder Russia is replacing T-80 with T-72.

Just because Pakistan uses them?


P.S: These above destroyed tanks are t-72s..

 

[Etilla]

Just because Pakistan uses them?


P.S: These above destroyed tanks are t-72s..

Russia is replacing T-80 with T-72 after T-80 failures in Grozny.

Ukraine has not operated T-72 for years. They have been lying in reserve as no spare parts.

Pakistan uses them none of my concern friend.

 

[Penguin]

Ukrainian T-72

Ukrainian Forces Destroyed Russian Tank T-72
Ukrainian Forces Destroyed Russian Tank T-72 - Ukraine Investigation

Ukraine has not operated T-72 for years. They have been lying in reserve as no spare parts.

This would seem correct.

All units are stored as they were produced in Russia and thus there is no access to parts to maintain them. Around 700-800 T-72 was sold to third countries in the period 1992-2014

Ukrainian Ground Forces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Oplot:

UD/84:

T-64 Bulat (upgraded):

 

[Etilla]

Ukrainian T-72

Ukrainian Forces Destroyed Russian Tank T-72
Ukrainian Forces Destroyed Russian Tank T-72 - Ukraine Investigation


This would seem correct.

Here are some Ukrainian T-72

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They have been retired years ago as Ukraine was unable to procure spare parts.

The T-80 is the core of Ukraine's armour as of now. Failing as expected.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Russia is replacing T-80 with T-72 after T-80 failures in Grozny.

Ukraine has not operated T-72 for years. They have been lying in reserve as no spare parts.

Pakistan uses them none of my concern friend.

Pakistan uses T-80UD.. The same thing as T-84.. Not a concern for us.. Although a lot of knocked out T-72s from Georgia,Syria etc .. Even the barrel bursting night blinded ones from from India can be found on the internet.

 

[Etilla]

Pakistan uses T-80UD.. The same thing as T-84.. Not a concern for us.. Although a lot of knocked out T-72s from Georgia,Syria etc .. Even the barrel bursting night blinded ones from from India can be found on the internet.

I wonder why the Russian army is replacing its T-80's with T-72. Must be really stupid i guess? Or perhaps its you who is wrong? Russian army vs defence forum poster. Geez i wonder who should be relied on more

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

T-64

The old t-64 .. Certainly no Bulat..

 

[Penguin]

The T-80 is the core of Ukraine's armour as of now. Failing as expected.

???

No pics of destroyed T-80s yet

 

[Etilla]

???

No pics of destroyed T-80s yet

the destroyed tanks aren't T-80?

T-72 are all in Eastern Ukraine graveyard since mid 90's.

Ukraine's abandoned tank graveyard could be needed if tensions with Russia escalate | Mail Online

T-84 and T-80 are only tanks left for Ukraine to fight with? The situation does seem somewhat confusing

@Penguin

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