Reaction of the Americans to the Japanese natural disasters

[fallstuff]

I am not surprised at all. The vile some of these spews even at fellow American is disgusting.

 

[Vinod2070]

^^ I can empathize with your feelings.

It is only human to have such feelings. It is great that China has overcome it and maintains the kind of relations with Japan still.

I feel the same rage when I think of the atrocities perpetrated on our people.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

^^ I can empathize with your feelings.

It is only human to have such feelings. It is great that China has overcome it and maintains the kind of relations with Japan still.

I feel the same rage when I think of the atrocities perpetrated on our people.

The Imperial Japanese Army, slaughtered 20 million innocent Chinese civilians, during WW2.

But we never took revenge against them. And today... they are our largest trading partner in Asia.

Even if we "wanted" to take revenge, who is there to take revenge against?

Is there any war criminal still alive?

 

[Vinod2070]

The Imperial Japanese Army, slaughtered 20 million innocent Chinese civilians, during WW2.

But we never took revenge against them. And today... they are our largest trading partner in Asia.

Even if we "wanted" to take revenge, who is there to take revenge against?

Is there any war criminal still alive?

Yep. There is no one to take revenge from.

I can imagine resentment against the Japanese in general among several Chinese people.

It can become a rallying issue at some point in future when there is a leader that wants to avenge it. Because the issue has not been closed.

I would say that Japan should offer an unconditional and massive apology and help bring closure to the issue. It may not undo those atrocities but will help people come to terms with it.

 

[ephone]

It is not about revenge.

Any issue need its closure. Germany did it but Japan have not.

What do you expect it will get when it asks China to support its bid into UNSC?

Yep. There is no one to take revenge from.

I can imagine resentment against the Japanese in general among several Chinese people.

It can become a rallying issue at some point in future when there is a leader that wants to avenge it. Because the issue has not been closed.

I would say that Japan should offer an unconditional and massive apology and help bring closure to the issue. It may not undo those atrocities but will help people come to terms with it.

 

[desioptimist]

Sometimes, i feel ashamed of being an American.

Your flag says you are a pakistani living in america. You are no american to begin with.

 

[gpit]

IF IF IF -- if pigs had wings they would fly!...the foundations of democracy are shared. The very europe looks at USA to lead...

If the foundations of democracy were shared, India wouldn't have 2,000,000 child starved to death per year....

US has some idiots on face book while Pakistan brings its idiots on national TV to herald them- as they dance on the graves of other countries- Like Zaid Hamid " given prime time slots on Pak TV. which do you think is really despicable?

The US has idiots on facebook while the Chinese govt itself disregard lives of its own citizens and allows 30 million to starve, allows hundreds of thousand to die in earthquakes , but refuses to ask for help because it wants to maintain an 'image' of all is cool and handled... which do you think is more despicable?

The US has idiots on face book but the Indian govt pretends that peoplle who hid black money offshore are more worthy to protect than people who dissent with words like that gal Ms Roy. I dispise what she says but I'll be first to stand up and say - in India in a democracy we have freedoms protected and she has a right to say it.

The US has idiots on face book but many Indians hoaxed to imagine, as long as they are democratized, they would be as rich and as strong as the British or US. In fact, democratically elected GoI disregards lives of its own citizens and allows 120+ million kids to starve to death since independence, many more lived an illiterate life, manipulated by their malicious, democratically elected politicians like flying pigs...

 

[gpit]

[/B][/COLOR] finally you have a chinese speaking the truth...as I have said and know all along. In india we have a special comment for your guys " 3rd rate ghati"

Never surprised as Caste System is your invention to keep - the ugliest ever invention in human history.

Let us know when your invention of even lower ghati comes out...

 

[President Camacho]

Never surprised as Caste System is your invention to keep - the ugliest ever invention in human history.

Let us know when your invention of even lower ghati comes out...

Believe it or not, it is one of those great formulations that has been taken up by other cultures from time to time. Ever heard of Boston Brahmins?

 

[gpit]

That JayAtl guy dragged my response and created another thread called: Chinese reaction to Japanese earthquake. Well, he simply just wanted to demonize me or more Chinese people.

He basically tried his best label me either as some kind of monster without feelings or whatever.

Well, I have posted my replies there but that thread has been deleted because so many twisted posts are there.

My post initially just tried to explain why people in US or China have such feeling and such feeling has its historical root, and are not generating from nowhere.

I see people label them as "nuts", "stupid people" or "extremist" or even worse. Well, I do not think they should be labeled that way and that is why I wrote my post.

Think about two pilots who dropped the nuclear bombs on japan during WWII. One was very regretful later in his life for causing so many japanese dead then. The other was indeed very proud for doing so to punish the japanese atrocity, end the war and save hundreds of thousands of US soldiers' lives. He said in various interviews that he never regretted for one second for doing so for America.

Well, you want to label one as hero, the other as monster? Or one as hero, the other as traitor?

Without deep understanding of an issue and simply drawing an conclusion, many members here are just like that.

As far as for WWII japanese atrocity against China and other asian countries, it was documented very well historically. However, japan has never even acknowledged its criminal brutality, let alone apologize or show its remorse, and tries its best to gloss over such historical atrocity. It tries its best to erase such history from its textbooks or any kinds of media. Any people who dare to tell the truth are harassed, threatened or killed. The current generation of japanese have no or little knowledge about what happened more than 70 years ago. It even put its war criminals into shrine to let common japanese to pay tribute to those bastards. Those who forget history will unfortunately see history repeats itself. That is why we Chinese never trust it since we do not know what the real intent is behind japanese's polite smile, deep bow or seemingly kind words. Historically, japan always wants to invade china since we are just so resourceful. It was defeated many times at least since Tang dynasty up to Ming dynasty but took advantage of us during our weakest time after two opium wars and various internal rebellions, civil wars.

Germany has the guts to fully acknowledge and apologized officially for its past atrocity, put it into textbooks to educate the young generations, tried its best to compensate a great sum to those victims, and outlaw any nazi related propaganda. His premier minister knelt down in Israel to show his country's true remorse. Even with those, many past victims still would not forgive it.

How about the japanese? It has done none of the above but the opposite. You still think Chinese people generate such feelings from nowhere???

Anyway, my original post was simply written for explanation, not intended to bash anyone. It seems that some members here are only interested in twisting my words, intentions and taking that out of contexts.

From those anti-japan posts, you clearly can see the real relation between China and japan is not healthy at all. The deep mistrust of japan is rooted historically. From this point of view, I think it is japan who need show its sincerity and acknowledge the history in the right way. Only then, the two countries may be back to a normal path for developing healthy relationship.

While JayAtl brandished his Indian invention and insulted you virulently with his " 3rd rate ghati", he proved himself 6th level or lower of gati.

He thought he controls Karmar... What an idiot!

 

[gambit]

And then we have..........

The list could go on and on and on..... I have to say I don't know of anyone on this Site that interjects racism into threads more then you do.

This thread serves no true purpose except to promote hate and strife. Mods should lock it!

Thomas,

The racism exhibited by the Chinese boys here is no surprise to us 'inferior' Asians. Racism and racialist thoughts are not exclusive to white people. Before the ancient Chinese encounter other peoples whose skin tones were actually paler than their own, the Chinese did considered themselves the 'white', and therefore, superior 'race'. The Buddha was 'converted' into a much more 'whiter' or paler version of his original Indian self. Even for Chinese who labor in the fields and had their skins darkened through natural processes, the idea that a Chinese is a 'white' person remain ingrained.

Zheng He - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Between 1405 and 1433, the Ming government sponsored a series of seven naval expeditions. The Yongle emperor designed them to establish a Chinese presence, impose imperial control over trade, impress foreign peoples in the Indian Ocean basin and extend the empire's tributary system. The voyages also presented an opportunity to seek out Zhu Yunwen (the previous emperor whom the Yongle emperor had usurped and who was rumored to have fled into exile) – possibly the "largest scale manhunt on water in the history of China".[9]

Zheng He was placed as the admiral in control of the huge fleet and armed forces that undertook these expeditions. Wang Jinghong was appointed his second in command. Zheng He's first voyage consisted of a fleet of 317 ships[10][11][12] (other sources say 200 ships) holding almost 28,000 crewmen (each ship housing up to 500 men).[10]
One of a set of maps of Zheng He's missions (郑和航海&#22270, also known as the Mao Kun maps, 1628.

Zheng He's fleets visited Arabia, Brunei, East Africa, India, Malay Archipelago and Thailand (at the time called Siam), dispensing and receiving goods along the way.[12] Zheng He presented gifts of gold, silver, porcelain and silk; in return, China received such novelties as ostriches, zebras, camels, ivory and giraffes.

It was not until the Ming Dynasty with Zeng He's voyages that Chinese racialist thoughts became more nuanced with regards to skin tones and their order in the universe. Africans and those with similar dark tones were placed at the lowest rung of the human ladder, not much higher than that of livestock. Peripheral Asians such as Thais, Cambodes, and Viets just above the Africans. When Darwinian theory of evolution came to China during the Qing Dynasty, just like how white Europeans used the theory of evolution to support their notions of the races and their order in life, Chinese racialist thoughts became similarly influenced. But also in order to reconcile the confusion the Chinese felt when they see Europeans with their superior technology and lighter skin tones when they are supposed to be the 'white' or superior race on Earth, Chinese intellectuals began to describe the Chinese race as 'yellow' rather than 'white' and to make the Chinese, at least for now, the superior of the other 'yellow' races, meaning the 'inferior' Asians, and therefore the racial equal of the paler Europeans.

HRIC |

Mankind is divided into five races. The yellow and white races are relatively strong and intelligent. Because the other races are feeble and stupid, they are being exterminated by the white race. Only the yellow race competes with the white race. This is so-called evolution. Among the contemporary races that could be called superior, there are only the yellow and the white races. China is the yellow race.

To Chinese racialist thoughts even to this day, there are two types of of 'barbarians': the shufan and the shengfan. The shufan are us 'inferior' Asians or non-Chinese Asians. The shengfan would be the 'white devils' like yourself. The shufan are supposed to be ruled over and if they have their own nation-states, they are to be tributary nation-states to China. The shengfan are to be tolerated, competed against, and WHEN possible, militarily defeated. Africans are to be either enslaved or exterminated.

The Chinese boys' racism exhibited here with their incessant 'IQ' arguments is emblematic of that social and cultural institutional memories of Chinese racialist thoughts transmitted from generation to generation, just like Yamato society and culture did that resulted in WW II and the atrocities committed against us 'inferior' Asians.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Gambit.

I don't think other races are inferior. I just think you are inferior.

Constantly trying to prove all Chinese are racist is in itself a racist ideal as I have told you many times.

As for IQ it doesn't take a genius to know you are severely lacking in that aspect. Vietnamese people are pretty smart though.

 

[Brotherhood]

Gambit.

I don't think other races are inferior. I just think you are inferior.

Constantly trying to prove all Chinese are racist is in itself a racist ideal as I have told you many times.

As for IQ it doesn't take a genius to know you are severely lacking in that aspect. Vietnamese people are pretty smart though.

Obviously, he need to find an excuse for his own racist behavior against Chinese, thats understandable why he's been accussing Chinese being racist in almost every single one of his post inorder to cover up his own a@s, a textbook example of a self-hated pathetic coward period.

 

[gambit]

Obviously, he need to find an excuse for his own racist behavior against Chinese, thats understandable why he's been accussing Chinese being racist in almost every single one of his post inorder to cover up his own a@s, a textbook example of a self-hated pathetic coward period.

Why do I need to find any 'excuse' when there is this...

Agreed. The problem with all of East asia is worship of whites despite our superiority.

Hmmm...Interesting that 'our superiority'. Guess a shufan like myself should know my place than to challenge a Chinese.

 

[CardSharp]

I have never met anyone so bloody obsessed with race. Give it a rest, this forum is turning into the comment section under a neo-nazis youtube video .