Re-Naming Akbar Road as Maharana Pratap Singh Road Is About Politics and Hindutva

[SarthakGanguly]

Politics - Yes.
Hindutva - No.
Stupidity - Yes.
Akbar was Great - Yes and No.

 

[Jackdaws]

Its Medically called Hemorroids ,piles is a layman term.
There is much Nehruvianism and Sickularism in country,what is needed is fumigation and sterilization of the whole machinery to get rid of the Nehruvian and Sickular bugs.

I am not going to argue with you on a topic where you clearly are in a class of your own. But I doubt your lack of a convent education permits you to be accurate or right. That also explains why you work in the Pest Control Department.

 

[Bombermanx1]

I am not going to argue with you on a topic where you clearly are in a class of your own. But I doubt your lack of a convent education permits you to be accurate or right. That also explains why you work in the Pest Control Department.

Whatever you think of me , do i care? Convent education no,but ICSE for sure not in a Christian or Secular institution.

 

[The_Showstopper]

good for you guys. I was educated in hyderabad and most of the history books contained info reggarding mughals and there predecessors who had very little to do with south and a little history was though on other kingdoms and empires..

Are you telling me that you haven't read about Kakatiyas, Cholas, Chalukyas, Vijayanagara Kingdom, Pallavas, Cheras in your history textbooks? Mughals ruled India for a good part of recent Indian history, so it is obvious that you will have a chapter written about them whereas you won't find much of a detail about Sher Shah Suri, Qutub Shahis etc. Are you a CBSE/ICSE student?

 

[haviZsultan]

Are you telling me that you haven't read about Kakatiyas, Cholas, Chalukyas, Vijayanagara Kingdom, Pallavas, Cheras in your history textbooks? Mughals ruled India for a good part of recent Indian history, so it is obvious that you will have a chapter written about them whereas you won't find much of a detail about Sher Shah Suri, Qutub Shahis etc. Are you a CBSE/ICSE student?

Having stayed in both "countries" (if not counting Lucknow as an independent state) the problem deeply persists in both nations. Pakistan has given privilege to Islamic education and Islamicizing history-we aren't even taught about Rana Pratap or Raja Dahir or Rana Sanga and if we are as villains.

India has given extra attention to Hindu dynasties more often though the Mughals are also covered in Indian education. This is natural as the Mughals ruled the region for 3 decades but still treated as foreigners which is partly true as Babur was a Timurid prince and Mongol from the mothers side. But my cousins always say that they are loosing urdu (can't read it) and foreign Hindu rulers being taught about in schools instead of Muslim rulers like Mughals Suris, Lodhis, Durranis etc whom they can identify with.

Education in both countries has deeply been politicized and given a religious tinge.

My view on the topic is that history is perceived through the eyes of the population or by every persons own analysis. In anyone's eyes Sher Shah Suri or Rana Pratap can be bad or evil or good and merciful. This is the fundamental right of the person to believe what he believes. What should be done by educational institutions is be absolutely impartial and teach the history of each and every group that ruled over Hindustan or Pakistan or areas of it. Let the student himself decide what they think of those rulers without labeling them with our own Hindutva/Islamic standards.

Do note that there will always be a difference between Hindu version of events on history and Muslim version. It is clear that Muslims see Aurangzeb and Akbar as heroes and Hindus as villains. Let them do so and in education don't try to influence them.

This is me trying to be a little more neutral. Just my 2 cents.

 

[itachii]

Are you telling me that you haven't read about Kakatiyas, Cholas, Chalukyas, Vijayanagara Kingdom, Pallavas, Cheras in your history textbooks? Mughals ruled India for a good part of recent Indian history, so it is obvious that you will have a chapter written about them whereas you won't find much of a detail about Sher Shah Suri, Qutub Shahis etc. Are you a CBSE/ICSE student?

The content related to kakatiyas, vijanagara, pallavas and cholas is very small when you compare it with mughals and their empires. There were chapters dedicated to each of the mughal emperors, not the same with other empires and emperors. There was a full chapter on sher shah suri while his empire was limited to north, not the same about Sri Krishna devaraya. Moreover, mughals are mostly limited to north, there kingdoms rarely expanded south, yet we were thought more about mughals than about south Indian empires. Vijayanagar empire was affluent and held on to the invasions of foreigners for long, It comprised of almost entire south, yet it didn't receive required fame, and was sidelined to few passages in our history books. Teaching about hyderabadi nizams makes more sense to me than mughals, who had little significance on South India.

 

[Jackdaws]

Having stayed in both "countries" (if not counting Lucknow as an independent state) the problem deeply persists in both nations. Pakistan has given privilege to Islamic education and Islamicizing history-we aren't even taught about Rana Pratap or Raja Dahir or Rana Sanga and if we are as villains.

India has given extra attention to Hindu dynasties more often though the Mughals are also covered in Indian education. This is natural as the Mughals ruled the region for 3 decades but still treated as foreigners which is partly true as Babur was a Timurid prince and Mongol from the mothers side. But my cousins always say that they are loosing urdu (can't read it) and foreign Hindu rulers being taught about in schools instead of Muslim rulers like Mughals Suris, Lodhis, Durranis etc whom they can identify with.

Education in both countries has deeply been politicized and given a religious tinge.

My view on the topic is that history is perceived through the eyes of the population or by every persons own analysis. In anyone's eyes Sher Shah Suri or Rana Pratap can be bad or evil or good and merciful. This is the fundamental right of the person to believe what he believes. What should be done by educational institutions is be absolutely impartial and teach the history of each and every group that ruled over Hindustan or Pakistan or areas of it. Let the student himself decide what they think of those rulers without labeling them with our own Hindutva/Islamic standards.

Do note that there will always be a difference between Hindu version of events on history and Muslim version. It is clear that Muslims see Aurangzeb and Akbar as heroes and Hindus as villains. Let them do so and in education don't try to influence them.

This is me trying to be a little more neutral. Just my 2 cents.

My take-away from this insightful comment -

1. Lucknow - an independent state.
2. Mughals ruled for 3 decades and not centuries.
3. Hindus see Akbar as a villain.
4. Rana Pratap can be bad in someone's eyes

 

[Roybot]

My take-away from this insightful comment -

1. Lucknow - an independent state.
2. Mughals ruled for 3 decades and not centuries.
3. Hindus see Akbar as a villain.
4. Rana Pratap can be bad in someone's eyes

Mind you, that was him being a little more neutral

 

[Jamwal's]

Rana is a symbol of resistance and his love for the freedom of his motherland Mewar.

As an Indian he should be given preference over a Turko Mongol.Govt should keep in mind the sentiment of Hindu majority.

 

[CorporateAffairs]

Nobody cares in India. Easy.

 

[Jackdaws]

Rana is a symbol of resistance and his love for the freedom of his motherland Mewar.

As an Indian he should be given preference over a Turko Mongol.Govt should keep in mind the sentiment of Hindu majority.

Not really - In a democracy it is about upholding individual rights not the rights of a community whether in a majority or a minority. The onus of a Government is to do the right thing and not the popular thing. But both are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

 

[Jamwal's]

Not really - In a democracy it is about upholding individual rights not the rights of a community whether in a majority or a minority. The onus of a Government is to do the right thing and not the popular thing. But both are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

In the same "democracy" which is based on public opinion and voting, there are promises to be keep and values to be uphold, in this case BJP whose base is majority Hindu vote and Indian values.

I am not expecting this from Left/secular parties but from BJP whom majority (Hindus) voted to power.

Besides Rana is a National Hero and an ideal for Indian military specially Rajputs just like Shivaji for Marathas , he is in the same league of Bose, kalam, Shivaji etc so his stature is above to a foreigner Turko Mongol Akbar.

 

[The_Showstopper]

The content related to kakatiyas, vijanagara, pallavas and cholas is very small when you compare it with mughals and their empires. There were chapters dedicated to each of the mughal emperors, not the same with other empires and emperors. There was a full chapter on sher shah suri while his empire was limited to north, not the same about Sri Krishna devaraya. Moreover, mughals are mostly limited to north, there kingdoms rarely expanded south, yet we were thought more about mughals than about south Indian empires. Vijayanagar empire was affluent and held on to the invasions of foreigners for long, It comprised of almost entire south, yet it didn't receive required fame, and was sidelined to few passages in our history books. Teaching about hyderabadi nizams makes more sense to me than mughals, who had little significance on South India.

Very little is known about Kakatiyas, so I guess you won't find much of the detail. I am a SSC student and we had Vijayanagara Kingdom as a chapter which is not the case with other dynasties/kingdoms including muslim kingdoms like Bahmani Kingdom, And just one chapter was dedicated to Mughals with reign of Babur, Akbar, Jehangir, ShahJahan and Aurangzeb being sub chapters. We had a chapter on Marathas, British rise in India, Anglo-Maratha and Anglo-Mysore wars, 1857 etc. So I guess we had pretty much of everything. Yes I won't get to learn much of South India but if you have telugu as your subject then you are sure to learn a lot about Telugu history and various other regional personalities.