Raymond Davis Case: Diyat Paid by Saudi Arabia? US Denies Payment.

[Mujeeb47]

I think no need for petition

 

[Mujeeb47]

@ Rig Videc
I believe 201% that Pakistan's involvement was necessary in 1980s.

 

[Mujeeb47]

@ Yeti
conspiracy story to prove that Aafia was terrorist in court. Actually she was kidnapped in her way to Islamabad from Karachi. She was travelling with her two children. Musharaf sold her to America , as he has mentioned in his book that he used to get money by selling people to America.

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

I hope the custodian of "two holy mosques" also do something about poor afia jailed for 84 years for allegedly trying to shoot americans.

The Saudis are busy killing other Muslims in Bahrain nowdays!!! duh

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

Raymond Davis’ release challenged in SC
Updated at 1015 PST Friday, March 18, 2011
Sohail Khan

ISLAMABAD: A constitutional petition, challenging the release of American national Raymond Davis, accused of killing two persons was filed on Thursday in the Supreme Court, praying for declaring the orders of release passed by additional district and sessions judge, Lahore illegal, unconstitutional and having no legal sanctity.

Maulvi Iqbal Haider advocate has filed the petition under Article 184(3) of the Constitution, making Federation of Pakistan, Government of Punjab, Home Secretary and Prosecutor General Punjab, Muhammad Yousaf Ojla, additional district and sessions judge, Lahore, Raymond Davis, the accused through American Embassy, Islamabad and SHO Police Station Lytton road Lahore as respondents.

He further prayed to the court to declare that the offence that was committed on January 27, 2011 within the jurisdiction of SHO, Lytton Road, Lahore by Raymond Davis in broad daylight at a public place was not ‘trial-able’ before the additional district and sessions judge, Lahore as the offence was to be tried by an anti-terrorism court, thus the trial and order of the district and sessions judge’s court is void and has no legal effect.

The petitioner further prayed to declare that the respondents including Federation, Government of Punjab, home secretary and prosecutor general Punjab and SHO police station Lahore have failed to fulfill their statutory duties against the accused Raymond Davis in respect of his anti-state activities.

He contended that on January 27, 2011 the offence was committed at Qartaba Chowk, Lahore and resultantly two innocent Pakistanis namely Faizan and Faheem were murdered by Raymond Davis at a public place.

He submitted that the on March 16, the respondents, with mala fide intentions and ulterior motives, in connivance with additional district and sessions judge produced the accused before the court where the court framed charges against the accused and at the same time the legal heirs of the deceased submitted an application for acceptance of Diyat and gave their statements to forgive the accused and later the court without touching the jurisdiction point and other relevant laws including the Anti-Terrorism Act discharged the accused from the cases and ordered his immediate release.

The petitioner submitted that the accused committed offences which were non-compoundable and in case of waiver or compounding of offence in light of Section 309 PPC the conditions should be considered by the learned additional and district sessions judge but the learned Judge in connivance with the respondents ignored and avoided to consider the relevant law as well as the issue of independence of judiciary and released the accused without due process of law.

He contended that the Supreme Court of Pakistan is a guarantor to enforce the fundamental rights of the citizens and uphold all the provisions of the Constitution as Article 2-A, 4, 6, 9 14, 17, 18, 25 and 35 enshrine the rights of the citizens which are being violated by the respondents against greed, interest and protecting their personal gain by taking money and other benefits.

Raymond Davis

Pathetic... the system that does injustice once can and will do injustice a million times...

 

[Imran Khan]

were gone that millions marchs today i was expecting they will broke islo in peaqces but i dont see a single news till now

 

[T-Faz]

@ T-Faz
And hope you also knew that soviet backed afghan jet fighters also tried to enter Pakistan (some of which were killed by army).

Pakistan got involved to protect it's sovereignty from Afghanistan which was with the backing of the USSR trying to steal Pakistan territory. After the USSR pullout Iran, India and the Russian Federation tried to exploit the situation. I can't believe ignorant people claiming that "Pakistan shouldn't involve itself" it's the geo politics affecting us.

Should we not safeguard our sovereignty against Afghan interference in Balochistan?

Here we go:

The U.S., with the support of its allies, would presumably be prepared to go to war with the U.S.S.R. over the Persian Gulf, which supplies of the West's oil. A Soviet attack on Pakistan would be something else; it would, and should, be costly, from Moscow's point of view, but would not necessarily lead to American or British intervention. Thus Washington's present intention is to help Zia ward off Soviet border forays rather than arm Pakistan against a Soviet invasion—an eventuality that Western strategists do not think likely.

World: Should the West Arm Pakistan? - TIME

Now read this article where it describes how the Soviets never crossed the border and only wanted Zia to end his support for the militants.

A Soviet captain emerged from the personnel carrier. "We want the three men back," he said, addressing Pakistani frontier policemen in English. Beside | him, an Afghan officer repeated the request in Urdu, adding, "If we don't have them back, you will be in for a lot of trouble." The Soviet vehicle then turned around and rumbled back into Afghanistan. "Not a shot was fired," a Pakistani officer recalled. "But just in case we didn't believe they meant business, they dropped 80 artillery shells on our positions that night." For the next two days, sporadic tank and artillery fire fell on the Pakistani outpost--and on the morning of the third day, the Pakistanis sent the three deserters back. Says a Pakistani intelligence officer: "There are a lot of changes on the border. The Soviets are now much closer than they have ever been before."

The heightened activity has led Western intelligence sources to conclude that the Soviets are making a greater effort than ever before to destroy mujahedin units operating from sanctuaries in Pakistan and stem the flow of weapons and supplies provided to the resistance by the U.S., China and several Muslim states. The U.S. pipeline alone is delivering an estimated $250 million in covert aid this year. Additional humanitarian assistance is going to the 3 million Afghan refugees in Pakistan, whose number has increased by 500,000 over the past year.

Unlike some alarmists in Islamabad, the Reagan Administration does not believe that the Soviet Union is about to take full-scale war into Pakistan. But the U.S. acknowledges Moscow's continuing attempt to bully Zia into backing off from his demands for a Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, the return of the refugees to that country and free elections in Kabul. U.S. military aid to Pakistan's 478,600-member armed forces is substantial--about $1.6 billion promised for the 1981-86 period--and includes F-16 jet fighters, tanks, artillery, antiaircraft missiles and a radar surveillance system.

To some degree, the Soviets have been giving mixed signals on the subject. Even as the border situation grew more threatening last week, Soviet Ambassador to the U.S. Anatoli Dobrynin offered to work with the U.S. to resolve regional conflicts, including Afghanistan. Said he: "We don't believe there is no solution to Afghanistan." The trouble is that Moscow would define the problem as "continued intervention from Pakistan." But once that matter is solved, "the problem is solved," Dobrynin contended, and the Soviets could then "take our troops home."

Pakistan Dirty, Deadly Game - TIME

So you see how we intervened when we could have just stayed away from this game.

 

[Mujeeb47]

@ M B Q
Saudis are present on the request of Bahrain. If Bahrain doesn't need them , order them they will go back. This is according To Gulf Agreement

 

[Mujeeb47]

@ Imran
No need for any million march. Instead expecting , you should be part of march. Thanks

 

[GOD OF WAR]

Well, giving him a new identity will only delay his death, till the time the US want him dead, and dispense him for a much more bigger agenda . the fact that he will be given a new identity will only 'preserve' him to be used on by the US as the ingredient for the right cake, when they want.

 

[senselesstalk]

How can pakistan army and its establishment give the confidence to the kashmiris that they will stand by them and will not sell their sacrificies just like they are doing with their own citizens? How can they justify the fight to liberate kashmir from india when pakistan cannot provide justice and basic human rights to its citizens? Seeing this situation indian kashmiris would like to be part of india only, atleast their lives are not sold at a cost ?

 

[Imran Khan]

How can pakistan army and its establishment give the confidence to the kashmiris that they will stand by them and will not sell their sacrificies just like they are doing with their own citizens? How can they justify the fight to liberate kashmir from india when pakistan cannot provide justice and basic human rights to its citizens? Seeing this situation indian kashmiris would like to be part of india only, atleast their lives are not sold at a cost ?

its test of kashmiri brains if they are fools they will trust them like pakistani public trust them and cry daily. if they have brains they stay away from pakistan.

 

[Mujeeb47]

@ T-Faz
The Pakistani embassy in soviet union also suggested that soviet union can intrude in Pakistan , if necessary. On east , Pakistan was facing India and on western border , we were facing pro-India soviet union. In these conditions , our institutions feel that we should engage Soviet union in Afghanistan before it comes to Pakistan. Our institution were feeling Pakistan extremely insecure at that time. Times magazine is calling Pakistani dirty play but remember America was top leader of this dirty play.

 

[T-Faz]

@ T-Faz
The Pakistani embassy in soviet union also suggested that soviet union can intrude in Pakistan , if necessary. On east , Pakistan was facing India and on western border , we were facing pro-India soviet union. In these conditions , our institutions feel that we should engage Soviet union in Afghanistan before it comes to Pakistan. Our institution were feeling Pakistan extremely insecure at that time. Times magazine is calling Pakistani dirty play but remember America was top leader of this dirty play.

No references for your claims, all of it is just propaganda that Zia fed the people.

India was in a complete abysmal state back then and it would have never done anything to Pakistan, remember the times they were in, the Golden Temple, Indira's assassination, they were completely overwhelmed with their own problems.

And you assertion that we should 'engage', by engaging, we are giving them a chance to work against us.

The sole reason why Zia accepted this deal was because he wanted to save his own highly unpopular government and to gain economic aid for Pakistan.

Don't tell me made up stories, I know more than enough from people who were decision makers in those days.

 

[Mujeeb47]

@ Imran
Sir please dont degrade Pakistani sacrifices for Kashmir. We have fight 3 wars for great Kashmir. Graves of pakistanis from every part of Pakistan can be seen in Kashmir. Kashmir Pakistan ki Sah-rug hai (Quaid).