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The above in an extract from Telegraph UK posted by a non- Pakistani and non-Muslim reporter Rob Crilly on a unbaised website.
Credit to the poster Logic :tup:

where is the report of robbers shooting at him at the front windscreen?
The bullets coming out of rear windscreen and shattering it?

Which stupid news channel/agency is AE following?
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Keeping in mind that many foreigners including Chinese, Americans, French etc. have been killed or kidnapped in the past in Pakistan, Mr. Davis seems to be having a very solid case of self-defense and it's very likely that he will be acquitted even if tried in a Pakistani court.

All he has to prove is that he believed he was going to be robbed and he fired in self-defense.
 
Mr. Davis seems to be having a very solid case of self-defense and it's very likely that he will be acquitted even if tried in a Pakistani court.

All he has to prove is that he believed he was going to be robbed and he fired in self-defense.

I don't think so. That is why the US Embassy is pushing to get him off-the-hook before hand. The case is weak. You don't put nine bullets in someone in self-defence. Both of the youth killed had one shot in front and three and four in the back. What does that tell you? They were trying to run away after the first shots.
 
I don't think so. That is why the US Embassy is pushing to get him off-the-hook before hand. The case is weak. You don't put nine bullets in someone in self-defence. Both of the youth killed had one shot in front and three and four in the back. What does that tell you? They were trying to run away after the first shots.

I'm not saying how many shots they have and how many they don't.

All I'm saying is that Mr. Davis has to prove that he was convinced that he was going to be kidnapped/robbed/attacked which, considering recent few years' happenings in Pakistan, is not an unlikely scenario, and he is done.

That's all he has to do.
 
LAHORE, Pakistan, Feb 1, 2011 (AFP) - A Pakistani court on Tuesday blocked any move to free a US government employee under investigation for double murder as Washington stepped up calls for his release, citing diplomatic immunity.

The US consular employee, whom Pakistani police identified as Raymond Davis, was arrested last Thursday after shooting dead two motorcyclists, claiming that he acted in self-defence, fearing that they were about to rob him.

A third Pakistani was knocked down and killed by a vehicle from the US consulate in Lahore that tried to rescue Davis. The American was instead arrested by police and a case of double murder registered against him.

The incident has aroused huge controversy in Pakistan, where anti-Americanism is rampant, stirred by Washington's alliance with an unpopular government, the war in Afghanistan and US missile attacks targeting Islamists in the northwest.

A senior Pakistani judge in Lahore on Tuesday blocked any move to hand the American over to US authorities and put his name on the exit control list.

"I am restraining him (from being handed over to US authorities). Whether he has or does not have (diplomatic) immunity will be decided by the court," ruled Lahore high court chief justice Ijaz Ahmed Chaudhry.

"An order is issued to put his name on the ECL (exit control list). The case is adjourned for 15 days."

A Pakistani lawyer had petitioned the Lahore high court under public interest laws to block any move to hand Davis over to the United States.

Washington says its employee belongs to its US embassy's "technical administrative staff" and is therefore entitled to "full criminal immunity".

US television network ABC reported that Davis is a private security officer with experience in the US Special Forces.

Representing the Pakistani government in court, deputy attorney general Naveed Inayat Malik asked the judge to give "time" to the Pakistani foreign ministry to determine whether Davis has diplomatic immunity or not.

The United States on Monday again called for the American's release, saying that he acted in legitimate self-defence.

"He cannot be lawfully arrested or detained in accordance with the Vienna Convention," US State Department spokesman Philip Crowley told reporters.

Visiting US congressmen asked President Asif Ali Zardari to free Davis.

The head of state told them: "It would be prudent to wait for the legal course to be completed," according to his office.

Washington is adamant that Davis is being held unlawfully and supports his version of events that he was confronted by two armed men on motorcycles.

Davis "had every reason to believe that the armed men meant him bodily harm. And minutes earlier, the two men, who had criminal records, had robbed money and valuables at gunpoint from a Pakistani citizen," said Crowley.

Police told AFP they recovered a Glock pistol, four loaded magazines, a GPRS navigation system and small telescope from the American's car.

From the two Pakistanis, an officer said on condition of anonymity that police found two pistols, magazine belts and four mobile phones, at least two of which they believe could have been stolen.

The officer described one of them as a street robber "wanted" in connection with three or four incidents and the other as his accomplice.

But questions remain about why the American was driving around with a gun, the precise sequence of events and how he came to see the motorcyclists as a threat. Neither have US officials confirmed his name.

Doctor Fakhar Zaman of Lahore's Mayo Hospital, who conducted a post-mortem on the two motorcyclists, told AFP that they were hit mostly from the back.

He said Mohammad Faheem received bullets to the brain, left of his back, left arm, chest and abdomen, apparently fired through the windscreen of a car, and that Faizan Haider was shot in the chest, back and kidney.

Relatives of the third man who died told AFP they would support Davis' release as part of a swap with Pakistani scientist Aafia Siddiqui, jailed for 86 years by a US court for the attempted murder of US military officers in Afghanistan.
 
Keeping in mind that many foreigners including Chinese, Americans, French etc. have been killed or kidnapped in the past in Pakistan, Mr. Davis seems to be having a very solid case of self-defense and it's very likely that he will be acquitted even if tried in a Pakistani court.

All he has to prove is that he believed he was going to be robbed and he fired in self-defense.

Many foeigners including Americans, french, canadians, britishers have been killed or raped in india, that doesn't mean they go on killing frenzy citing self defence.
 
"I am restraining him (from being handed over to US authorities). Whether he has or does not have (diplomatic) immunity will be decided by the court," ruled Lahore high court chief justice Ijaz Ahmed Chaudhry.

Now the first question that arises is how can Pakistan arrest someone who claims diplomatic immunity?

According to Vienna Convention, any person who claims diplomatic immunity cannot be arrested. Plain and Simple.
 
Many foeigners including Americans, french, canadians, britishers have been killed or raped in india, that doesn't mean they go on killing frenzy citing self defence.

Yes it does. If a foreign diplomat or even an ordinary citizen feels that his life is under threat, he/she can shoot or kill in self-defense.

India is no exception.
 
Yes it does. If a foreign diplomat or even an ordinary citizen feels that his life is under threat, he/she can shoot or kill in self-defense.

India is no exception.

Who would you feel if AJMAL KAZAB claimed diplomatic immunity?
 
Now the first question that arises is how can Pakistan arrest someone who claims diplomatic immunity?

According to Vienna Convention, any person who claims diplomatic immunity cannot be arrested. Plain and Simple.

And the answer is he has no diplomatic immunity, he does not even have a diplomatic visa, all you have to do is go back few pages and see the scans of his passport.
 
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