Raymond Davis Case: Developing Story

[All-Green]

i think so bcoz it says OFFICIAL MULTIPLE

Let us not speculate.
I am sure the details shall be revealed to us as the investigation matures.
Let us hope that this matter is investigated thoroughly instead of covering up things due to the pressure being exerted.
There are a lot of questions which need answering.

 

[JonAsad]

So at least now we know for sure that Mr Davis had a valid visa and a Diplomatic passport to go with it.

Eventually Pakistan will have to release him on the ground of Diplomatic immunity and self defense. If they don't then well Pakistan diplomats and embassy over in America better be on their best behavior. Cause next thing you know they ll be getting framed in all sorts of crimes and won't be able to claim immunity under Vienna Convention.

And if Mr Davis is let go, Zardari will loose whatever credibility he has left and good luck to him in the next elections.

These are the two things thats complicating the case,

Did he acted on self defense?
Did he have a Diplomatic Immunity?

 

[Rank]

I am pretty sure with in 10 - 15 days or maximum 1 month this terrorist will be release because govt of all ISLAMIC NATIONS right now very under pressure because of Egypt revolution. All are American puppet Govt in all ISLAMIC STATES and all Islamic states people extremely hatred towards USA. These Islamic states govt's are not capable to hold even 10 million people who will show some aggression in front of Parliament. We have (Pakistan) are totally different situation. We have people who have different kinds of agenda's. We will never become 1 single objective nation. More over half of population have different kinds of objectives/needs and own style of law-mind. But still govt of Pakistan just holding petrol prices, David Case and rest of all those issues which are directly connected with the people of Pakistan. At least 15 - 20 days govt will do whatever is but in favor of Pakistani. When this Egypt issue will settle down and all kinds of so called perception/estimates/etc like revolution or any civilian aggression on govt (Pakistan) chances will reduce this person 101% released and back to US without any justification or clearance to the people of Pakistan. So govt actually bit scared in fact PPP and Govt of Punjab (Muslim-L-N) also actually playing own games especially PPP right now.

 

[mughaljee]

^
InshahAllah, Not,

 

[Roybot]

These are the two things thats complicating the case,

Did he acted on self defense?
Did he have a Diplomatic Immunity?

If you have a look at the video of Najam Sethi posted earlier, he addresses both the issues. By looking at some of the earlier posts it seems like Mr Sethi is seen as a paid agent by Pakistanis or whatever, but no harm in keeping an open mind. Here have a look,

YouTube - Aapas Ki Baat 31st January 2011 Part 1

YouTube - Aapas Ki Baat 31st January 2011 Part 2

YouTube - Aapas Ki Baat 31st January 2011 Part 3

YouTube - Aapas Ki Baat 31st January 2011 Part 4

 

[[Pakistani]-evilX]

@ AstanoshKhan

1 ) that is not the visit visa because the visa type clearly states : Visit Visa , but the scanned copy says Official Business with Single entry even if you call it Business Visit Visa then that is wrong too, Type- Business Visa

2) this one is the same one as above but with multiple entries

3) this one is the current and valid visa which clearly says Official, so it is a diplomatic visa,

 

[Durrak]

A Pakistani judge has banned any move to hand over to US authorities an American government employee who is under investigation for double murder.
Lahore High Court Chief Justice, Ijaz Ahmed Chaudhry, ordered on Tuesday that Raymond Davis remain in prison until next week while Pakistani police investigate the shooting,An order is issued to put his name on the ECL (exit control list)..Pakistani media said earlier the US embassy official is an agent for the notorious security firm, Blackwater.

 

[Peregrine]

According to the judicial proceedings the Court has yet to decide whether he is a diplomat or not, So to say that he is entitled for diplomatic immunity, will only be decided by the court.

 

[logic]

Court to decide Davis fate: Rehman Malik PDF Print E-mail
ISLAMABAD, Feb 1 (APP): Federal Interior Minister Rehman Malik on Tuesday categorically stated that central and provincial governments would not hinder the court proceedings regarding Raymond Davis, the US national accused of killing two Pakistanis in Lahore last week. Talking to newsmen outside the Parliament House, the minister said that Raymond’s fate would be decided by the court.

SLAMABAD: Ruling out any move to hand over to US authorities its national involved with a double-murder case in Lahore, Pakistan's court directed the government on Tuesday to put his name on the Exit Control List (ECL), to prevent him from leaving Pakistan.

Raymond Davis, a US citizen, was arrested in Lahore on Thursday after gunning down two persons, Faizan, 22 and Fahim, 17, in broad daylight. A third person was killed when he was hit by a vehicle from the American Consulate in Lahore that was rushing to the rescue of Davis.

"I am restraining him (Raymond Davis) from being handed over to US authorities. Whether he has or does not have diplomatic immunity will be decided by the court," Lahore High Court's (LHC) chief justice Ijaz Ahmed Chaudhry said in short court order.

"An order is issued to put his name on the exit control list. The case is adjourned for 15 days," it said.

With anti-American sentiments high, the government in Pakistan has been caught in a difficult situation of how to handle a case involving a citizen of a major donor country. According to sources, President Zardari came under immense pressure on Monday when a six-member US congressional delegation called on him and sought diplomatic immunity for the arrested US national.

A statement released by the US embassy in Islamabad read: "He enjoys diplomatic status and is immune from prosecution in Pakistan." Pakistan's foreign office and home ministry have so far not ascertained the status of the detained man. The government has asked the court on Tuesday for time to determine whether Mr Davis had diplomatic immunity or not. "Once the status of Raymond Davis is confirmed the government will take action accordingly," interior minister Rehman Malik told a private TV station.

However, diplomatic sources in Islamabad said that Raymond Davis had first received a three-month diplomatic visa on a diplomatic passport on request of the US State Department in September 2009. That is the only visa issued to him by the Pakistan embassy in Washington. His presence in Pakistan after the expiry of his first visa in December 2009 was neither known to nor authorised by the Pakistan embassy in Washington or the Foreign Office, sources added

 

[logic]

Raymond Davis incident: What sort of diplomat carries a loaded gun?​

Raymond Davis incident: What sort of diplomat carries a loaded gun? - Telegraph

 

[JonAsad]

Geo News gets post mortem report of Lahore victims



LAHORE: Geo News has received the detailed post mortem report of two deceased men, allegedly killed by US citizen David Raymond as later opened fire on them near Abid market at Mazang Chowk.

According to the report, deceased received nine bullets altogether out of which one bullet struck the each deceased from the front.

Doctors from King Edward University conducted post-mortem of Faizan Haider and Faheem Shamshad.

Report said that Fahim Shamshad, whose post mortem was conducted after 22 hours and 30 minutes of his death, got killed immediately after receiving bullets at 2:45 pm at Lytton road.

It said that there were four wound marks of each bullet on Fahim's body. First bullet hit his head at right side from the back, second at his back, third on left side of his waist while fourth bullet hit its left wrist which passed after touching his left leg.

According to the post mortem of Faizan Haider, he succumbed to injuries in hospital after surviving 1 hour and 35 minutes after the incident. His post mortem was conducted after passing 19 hours and 55 minutes of his death.

Faizan got five wound marks on his body out of which five were of bullets and one was of operation. He received first bullet from the front at left side of his chest, second passed through his left hip, third at left side waist from the back while two bullets passed after touching his left leg.

Geo News gets post mortem report of Lahore victims - GEO.tv

 

[JonAsad]

Nice bullets Reymond Davis fired.. and the two alleged robbers did not even fire one?

out of my mind.

 

[Peregrine]

The Court has issued orders to restrict Davis from going out of Pakistan, This decision is taken as consequence of several petitions received by the court and one of those petitions states that, instead of prosecuting him in a normal court this matter should be referred to Anti-Terrorism court of Pakistan........... Very Intriguing establishments indeed.

 

[ashok321]

The Court has issued orders to restrict Davis from going out of Pakistan, This decision is taken as consequence of several petitions received by the court and one of those petitions states that, instead of prosecuting him in a normal court this matter should be referred to Anti-Terrorism court of Pakistan........... Very Intriguing establishments indeed.

The guy is not a terrorist, so why this frivlous request?

 

[JonAsad]

Davis was arrested last Thursday. He was driving a Honda Civic alone through Lahore when two men pulled alongside him on a motorbike at traffic lights. According to the US embassy in Islamabad, he saw that one of them had a gun. Apparently fearing that he was about to be robbed, he opened fire, killing both. When US officials arrived to rescue him from a growing mob, they ran over a bystander, resulting in a third death. (I think we can assume that the driver of the second vehicle is no longer in Pakistan.)

The above in an extract from Telegraph UK posted by a non- Pakistani and non-Muslim reporter Rob Crilly on a unbaised website.
Credit to the poster Logic

where is the report of robbers shooting at him at the front windscreen?
The bullets coming out of rear windscreen and shattering it?

Which stupid news channel/agency is AE following?