- Wishful thinking you say? I think that accurately describes your entire post. Anyway here are some credible sources that support my argument:
RAW : An Instrument of Indian Imperialism | Asian Tribune
RAW facts on South Asia India’s unconventional war strategy
Your pathetic forum wont let me add url's below 5 posts. So google em. The above will also clarify to you the extent of India's regional influence.
that's fine and all, but you can't possibly believe that india is a dominant and superpower by exerting power over nepal, sri lank, and bangladesh do you?
try pakistan, you won't because you know a nuke would be stuck up your arse!
As for your fallacious claim that "R&AW has never been able to infiltrate NWFP, let alone FATA", here's a list of regions RAW has infiltrated, including among those you so zealously deny, Sindh (Sindhi-desh movement) Punjab (the Saraiki movement) and even regions in and around your major cities such as Lahore, Karachi and the national Capital. It will also clarify how much of KHAD's infiltration is really its own. It has a mischievous title and yes, as expected, it is from a pakistani source:
so where has india infiltrated NWFP of FATA? exactly, like i said you can't back up your claims sh*the*d! where is the Sindh movement? where is the seraiki movement?please do enlighten me with you PHd. in chanakya studies!
- Your stupidity actually amuses me. Are you saying there's a correlation between the number of times a person is shot in the neck and who assassinated him? And if you think that would have caused an uproar in India, you're sadly mistaken- because we don't really give a shyte about some bitsch named Bhutto. After all, history has shown us she doesn't exactly have an unblemished record in the first place. Or perhaps you confuse your country with ours, where our citizens are not aware of the clandestine activities of our intelligence agencies and are not meant to be. Maybe, in your own, these things are common knowledge- an indication of your incompetence perhaps? And if you can speculate that it was either the ISI or the US that bumped her off, then so may I that it was the RAW.
like i said, provide me with a link, where it says R&AW was behind bhutto's death. otherwise it is wishful thinking and stupidity on your part. i don't speculate, I know bhutto was sent to her own death. like the solid argument i made before, the new govt. wants a UN investigation. that means they're not buying musharrafs claim. they believe the isi was behind it.
Or can't you read the caveat before my assertion, jackass? To paraphrase my own words: The ruthlessness attributed to the CIA is purposefully exaggerated because it has a function in and of itself- have you ever heard of the concept of dread, motherfucker? Moreover, the extent of the ruthlessness ascribed to the CIA in flicks and lore is hyperbolic and is unwarranted (in extent) by its actual activities. If you're conception of the CIA and Mossad is shaped only by what you see in movies, then you're a fool and a faggot. Do you grasp that?
ruthlessness to scare other agencies, yea whatever. your posts just go to show me exactly how old you are. by the way, did you sign your 18 or older permission form for this website yet? im sure the mods can help you get the form.
The only governments the ISI has destroyed are your own. It neither has nor has ever had the capacity or the balls to take on any foreign government on its own. I'm sure your hyperactive imagination dreamed that up while you were shagging yourself in your sleep last nite. As for controlling Afghanistan, you don't mean all those taliban scurrying into their burrows in the FATA and kidnapping or killing your own soldiers do you? Or perhaps you're talking about Karzai, who just a few days ago threatened to invade the Pakistan that was supposedly in control of his government- pretty significant threat that nay?, especially considering that even the most trouble-torn country in the world right now won't hesitate to whoop your arse. Control Afghanistan! dont make me fuckin laugh.
the only govt. isi has destroyed are our own? please provide a link. in neither has the capacity or balls to take on any other? where have you been ignorant son of **? did you just forget what we're talking about?
the only reason why this crap is happening against the army is because of the war on terror, that's it. if india was behind it, please provide me a link of this stuff happening before 2001, thanks.
Watch: YouTube - Inside Story -Indian/Israeli collaboration -21 Oct 07-Part 2
and wait for the part where one of your own majors Iqram Sehgal admits that Pakistan's military, intelligence and nuclear capabilities are SPECIFICALLY STRIVING FOR PARITY WITH INDIA. As well, open your ears when an academic- Cmdr. Uday Bhaskar (who take as unemotional stance on the issue- as is evidenced on numerous occasions by his previous appearances on similar programs) asserts that the spectrum of India's concerns is not limited to Pakistan. As you see therefoe, my claims are based on the words of your own armymen- the guardians of that shithole you call your country- while you speak merely out of hystercal arrogance.
and? that's the point of every military, di**head.
Wow! You speak like a fuckin expert on these matters, yet you can't produce a shred of evidence to support your overblown claims. Even, if you could (which you cannot) that would only demonstrate just how adept your ISI is at keeping its activities secret. Nor can you show me any proof to deny the existence of RAW networks in all of those places you mentioned. Speaking of which, barring China, India has far better relations than Pakistan with nations in every single one of those regions, as well as a greater number of its nationals, traders, students, diplomatic missions and businesses which exponentially increases the likelihood of its successfully conducting clandestine activities there rather than Pakistan. Wishful thinking perhaps, but only on your part.
my claims run on common knowledge. tell me the isi doesn't have influence in northern africa or the middle east? my claims are overblown? please provide links to yours, thanks.
As for ISI networks in Israel and Russia- gimme a fuckin break. These countries would sooner castigate themselves than allow putrid shyte like ISI to operate within their borders. Besides wasn't it you who just ranted on about what great agencies the Mossad and the KGB/FSB actually were.
let's not forget about the islamists in the ISI who have sympathy for muslims. last time i checked, chechens were getting their weapons from somewhere.
Yes it does. "Adding the CIA to the picture" takes away the life support that your ISI depended on to carry out its activities abroad (read Afghanistan and India during the Cold War) and what you would otherwise have claimed to be your greatest ally and mentor in the field of espionage. Poor Pakistan, all alone and friendless. Fuckin pathetic!
no it doesn't, people won't forget skills overnight, moron. "poor pakistan, all alone and friendless, fuckin pathetic!" just goes to show me how old you are!
As for RAW being trained by the Mossad and KGB for the last howmanyyears, i only mentioned it because i thought (and rightly so) that you fuckin retards wouldn't know otherwise. Its a good thing i did too, cuz if all of u had the miserable level of intelligence you've displayed, i'd have to repeat myself a thousand times more until it seeped through your thick skulls.
"miserable level of intelligence" ill be sure to remember that one
A national database of 140 million people you say! Impressive. You'll have to do better than that though, considering you shag like rabbits. Here's what we however shall have in the near future:
"The MNIC is a smart card with 16KB of memory designed to be in line with the specifications laid out in ISO 7816 and SCOSTA. Earlier smart card applications of the Government of India have adapted the ISO 7816 specifications under the SCOSTA (Smart Card Operating System for Transport Applications)[5] program of the government of India. The cards are designed to support a minimum of 300,000 EEPROM write cycles and will retain data for at least 10 years"
- Multipurpose National Identity Card (India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As of May 2008, this project is now in full swing in the 13 states mentioned above and has already been introduced into the rest. Frankly, i dont know what motherwhoring age you're living in.
get this done first, then come back to me.
- It's good that you now know that "a ton of our agents" were caught by the ISI. Such information is declassified only when the "double agents" in question are either neutralized or discovered by the agency to which they formerly belonged- which ofcourse tells you the status of these agents as they stand at present. You do not however have information about the extent to which former pakistani, now double agents working for India have infiltrated your establishment- because many of these agents are still active and still valuable assets in the intelligence war against you barbarian scum.
please provide links to your claims, thanks. i highly doubt that, no double agent has ever been revealed.
As for technology, we are certainly way ahead of you simply because the size of our defense and intelligence budgets eclipses yours, because we can afford to spend more on our security and on your disarray because our economy is not in the doldrums like yours... shuvey, motherfucker?
please provide links on technology, thanks.
As for the Reds, they exist only because some state governments receive enormous funding to combat them- which admittedly is not put to the task, but rather siphoned off instead. They exist, therefore dickhead, because a few state govts. see it in their own interests to let them lye. This is evidenced by the fact that the Maoists have never been able to effectively destabilize the country, unlike ofcourse the mullahs and the radicals are doing to yours. Here are some recent developments you should educate yourself about:
no, thats why i mentioned BCCI. the main financial vehicle of the isi. it was the isi that was behind it, just learn to accept these things okay.
- It seems like your childish understanding of things general extends to the uses of satellites as well. Here are the advantages the spy satellites we've deployed give us over you:
- High-res photography of sensitive locations including your military installations and nuclear sites, detection of movement of troops and fissile material and reconnaissance for possible future operations targeting these areas through techniques of imagery and measurement and signature intelligence
- Eavesdropping on communications, detection of missile launches as well as autogenous covert communications through Signal Intelligence for reduced response intervals.
- In conjunction with Human and Technical Intelligence as well as other forms of overt intelligence (which is all too readily available, given the "paper trail" ISI leaves behind, which incidentally accounts for its "ruthless reputation"), this gives us an enormous advantage over your primitive intelligence gathering techniques.
like i said before, and the way you confirmed it right now, it's good for spying on military installations from overhead. that's not going to stop spies from infiltrating your territory.
- As for your claim about using Chinese satellites, i'd like to see you verify that with credible sources. Don't get too jumpy about your presently cozy relationship with China. They'd sooner let you jizz on them than let you use their satellites!
please whatever, china has launched our satellites, has helped us build satellites, and lends us satellites
"ohhh, that's scary Germany and Singapore! ISI already colloborates with other agencies, why do you seem to ignore that? why does it even matter, do you think R&AW still needs help?"
- Yes Germany and Singapore indeed! 2 of the most sophisticated, albeit less notorious agencies in the world. And yes, we're not ashamed to say we do need help, again because our sphere of concern and influence far exceeds that of yours. Your ISI on the other hand are resigned to defining their existence as anti-India. Heck, i can't blame them. After all, who would have ever heard of those gaulish cunnies were it not for the Romans.
please provide links, thanks. singapore lol
As for ISI collaborating with other agencies, why do you leave us all hanging by just leaving it at that. We're all waiting with bated breath to know who in their right mind would collaborate with the ISI. So spit it out. Or is this another of your, to use your own words, "wet dreams"?
ISI collaborates with many agencies, including the cia. please check that out.
Our house is more in order than your little slum hut is or ever will be. You may wallow in your own pride and amuse yourself, but that does not change reality. And that reality is that the RAW has and will always be a more efficient, disciplined and better organized agency than the ISI. You may fool yourself into thinking that the collapse of "the Soviet war machine" and the destruction of the afghan govt. had everything to do with the ISI. But in truth, all you can do is simply usurp the credit that belongs to someone else. Were it not for the massive transfer of weapons, funds and intelligence by the CIA, the Soviet and all the afghan heroin smugglers who turned the Soviet troops into addicts, the Soviet army would never have been ousted from Afghanistan. As such, your ISI was merely a pawn the CIA used cleverly and slyly to their own ends.
please provide links for that. like i said, just accept the isi was behind the withdrawal of soviet forces, it'll be a lot easier.
- Again, all you do is repeat yourself over and over and over again. Really, you ought to come up with something more original- perhaps an education out of a madarassa may achieve that?
I've already replied to this same argument above. Go figure.
no stupid, you're repeating bullsht on this thread. just accept the fact that youre running on speculation.
- Yes the BCCI, another telling failure of the now apparently hapless ISI. On the topic of which, is it not striking how you used the BCCI to back stab your beloved chink friends?. After all, did not some of China's largest state banks deposit huge sums in the BCCI's Shenzhen branch? Only to have those monies lost forever upon its liquidation. And finally for the nail in the coffin, is it not also telling how the BCCI story figures prominently under Wikipedia's list of "Most Notable Business Failures"? Need i say more?
wikipedia's nothing credible to quote from. please go read up on the BCCI and its fortunes.
- Chanakya! My dear boy, is that all you can come up with? Your jealousy and servility towards your masters betrays itself slave! Get your dick out of your own arse and stop fuckin yourself over. In the eyes of the world and even of your own citizens, it is you who are the desperate, starved lot- shitting your guts out at the prospect of being the State's, or for that matter Afghanistan's next target. Your economy is in a virtual state of ruin and your politics so anarchic it can barely recognize its dismembered self. You are truly, in the words of "Fund for Peace' and 'Foreign Policy', a failed state.
It should be apparent to you now that the garbage you've spewn from your mouth is nothing but bullshit and little short of churlish india-bashing. By the blood of Mars, it's a good thing the internet was invented cuz it'd be a sin to cut down a tree for such tripe!
And finally, while you're here, notice motherfucker how my fellowmen have immediately rallied to the defense of another son of the Republic, while the only post so far from one of yours has unwittingly validated my position and degraded yours. And this on a forum entitled...
Rest in peace my little cunt slave
you're just a low life piece of dirt who's not even worth a slave. who's ruled who for a thousand years, did anyone tell you that on bharat rakshak? it was me who ruled you for a thousand years, and when the time came for you to rule, i broke off a chunk of your dream land.
like i said back up your speculations by links. prove it to me india has infiltrated nwfp and fata, or how india has killed bhutto. pakistan has a better claim on indira gandhi thanks to sikhs. now can you provide me with detailed evidence on your claims?
P.S: goodbye Tupac175!
