Rangers reciprocate Indian firing at LoC killing 5 soldiers

[SledgeHammer]

Pakistan has had no problems previously. Modi is taking advantage of our war on terror.

I think you are misunderstanding the policy taken by the new govt. in Delhi, it all started with Pakistan's decision to carry on 'talks' with the separatists sitting in Delhi in spite of Govt. of India's clear displeasure about it, as a result talks with Pakistan was suspended, and after a few days Pakistan started the border firing so that India start asking for talks.
But the new govt.'s policy is to retaliate with equal or greater force in case of such provocation, and so is being done. Pakistan on the other hand is trying to make Indian govt. stand down from its stated position (of no talks with Pakistan while proxy war is being done by them) with increasing border tension, but this policy of Pakistan is unlikely to work now.
You can also check the post # 87 to 99 in this thread: US brushes aside assumptions linking Pakistan to Kashmir violence | Page 6

 

[nForce]

Unfortunately, a good portion of Indians have truly been brainwashed by their media machine...and they refuse to see the grey area. Rather everything is black and white to them.

Few things to consider, Pakistan is genuinely f@cked due to the ongoing terrorism and the mega-corruption. Even the most dumbest and daftest of pupil would NOT go beyond their means in such an extraordinary condition....yet the Indians believe that the "evil" Pakistan Army is stirring trouble on the Eastern border and LOC.

Remember, each side takes advantage of the other going through a difficult time, Pakistan has done it....and it is now India which is doing it. The difference is that we are honest about it, Indians are just....meh.

It's a simple equation when it comes to Pakistan and India....a very simple equation.

What taking of advantage are you talking about ? What is there to gain for India in these petty border skirmishes ? It has been Pakistan which has sent regular soldiers and militia masked as guerrillas back in '48 again in '65, in '99. It is the Pakistani govt. under Zia that created the mujahedin, harboured them in Afghanistan and started using them against India as a state policy, which has continued till-date, something that has been confirmed by many Pakistani officials including Musharraf. The Pakistani rangers provide them covering fire.

India has no territorial ambitions. If that had been the case, then Bangladesh would have been a part of undivided Bengal. Even if you don't believe that, think about it in this manner- the return on investment would be simply too low and possibly detrimental!! Whats there in Pakistan to gain ?!

So, go have fun in the Pakistan that you have created..we are doing fine here, stay off the border.

 

[Slayer786]

More fake news propagated by Pakistani army for morale boosting purpose of the populace which is under dual attacks of terrorists their country itself created and then these attacks when their armed forces are trying to push "Good terrorist" in India to kill innocent Indians on the street. But beware and get ready for more shelling and more loss of life, because now we believe that that's the only language Pakistanis understand. BSF will in no way let the Pakistanis push their "Good terrorists" in India by providing them cover during these cease fire violations..

Ok your threats have shaken us. My God we shudder to think what indian BSF will do. I guess we will just let them do whatever they want and sit back and do nothing.

 

[Randhawa]

such views are not shared by all
there is no grace and glory when civilians are being killed and displaced on both sides.
I have same views about the unprovoked killing of soldiers.

sir but the first casualty was the BSF constable sniped by your side.

 

[acid rain]

Its pretty obvious why India have been aggressively weaponizing worth Billions of dollars from the West/Russia (Aircraft's, Missile tech, AWACS, Transport Aircraft, Submarine hires from Russia etc, etc) in these last few months. Modi`s government has recently took a big leap in modernizing the Indian defence industry and domestic arms production in anticipation of war with Pakistan. Modi was put in charge for a good reason, and even the Russians are weary of him as a partner.

These small exchanges will do more damage to India than it will Pakistan, as India is effected more in trade, stock markets and financial/business, so India will push for the big one.

How is our trade, shares, financial or business affected? Even if there is a full fledged war with Pakistan - there will not be any difference in all that you say, in fact it will boom because it will go in overdrive as a war economy.

Unfortunately, a good portion of Indians have truly been brainwashed by their media machine...and they refuse to see the grey area. Rather everything is black and white to them.

Few things to consider, Pakistan is genuinely f@cked due to the ongoing terrorism and the mega-corruption. Even the most dumbest and daftest of pupil would NOT go beyond their means in such an extraordinary condition....yet the Indians believe that the "evil" Pakistan Army is stirring trouble on the Eastern border and LOC.

Remember, each side takes advantage of the other going through a difficult time, Pakistan has done it....and it is now India which is doing it. The difference is that we are honest about it, Indians are just....meh.

It's a simple equation when it comes to Pakistan and India....a very simple equation.

All your internal issues does not in anyway change or alter pakistan's external policy vis a vis India...proxy war and keeping the insurgency alive in Kashmir is part and parcel - in fact, it's the major part of pakistan's army driven India policy.

BJP has come up with a strategy wrt to kashmir and pakistan, and Pakistan is paranoid about it.

The insurgency in Kashmir infrastructure doesn't ebb let it be any internal issue in pakistan because it's a core policy - the most important one for pakistan.

So, listing all your internal issues to make someone assume that it will alter in any way the militancy training and deploying will not sell.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

sir but the first casualty was the BSF constable sniped by your side.

again I regret that

surprised/ confused?

you shouldn't be. to me every human life is precious. its coming from a person who has seen the war personally. A soldier's life is equally precious and shouldn't be wasted on such tit for tat situations.
not justifying but I recall when a Pakistani soldier crossed by mistake on the other side of the border he didnt even have a weapon on him. he approached a post thinking it was his inside Kashmir and was captured and shot and then handed back in a flag meeting. his stupid mistake resulted in his death in the fog of war but could have been avoided just like this sniping case you are mentioning,.

we know Indian snipers firing tracer rounds on fields and burning them and then shooting people who tried to put the fire out who are basically subsistence farmers nothing noble there either.

 

[Strigon]

Pls you might take pleasure in watching such videos, I didn't even bother with it.
Please get of your high horse, after all who can forget the famous Rotherham scandal .


"Men of Pakistani heritage treated white girls like toilet paper. They picked children up from schools and care homes and trafficked them across northern cities for other men to join in the fun. They doused a 15-year-old in petrol and threatened to set her alight should she dare to report them. They menaced entire families and made young girls watch as they raped other children."

Rotherham: In the face of such evil, who is the racist now? - Telegraph




I have no problem what so ever , every one has right to their opinion..what I am allergic to is the hypocrisy being displayed.



Here is the reality check for you.

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Our failure was short lived and rectifiable was rectified by us in the end itself, your failure(if indeed it was one) will haunt you forever.

6 months is short lived. A stain on your army's credibility forever is not rectifiable and is further reinforced when it indulges in producing trashy 3rd class videos it calls proofs that nowhere actually prove anything but show some people randomly moving around and then fill headlines up with EXPOSED and gullible people like self overuse the word turning it into a joke.

 

[jha]

falling morale of rangers....thanks for the laughs

its your soldiers who have the suicide rates, fratricide rates like no other

Yeah Right... Your side has the unique distinction of hiding surrender from whole country... Now laugh some more..

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Yeah Right... Your side has the unique distinction of hiding surrender from whole country... Now laugh some more..

your side has the disctinction of murdering innocent people, then claiming they were ISI infiltrators or other such hogwash

and nobody listens

 

[Randhawa]

again I regret that

surprised/ confused?

you shouldn't be. to me every human life is precious. its coming from a person who has seen the war personally. A soldier's life is equally precious and shouldn't be wasted on such tit for tat situations.
not justifying but I recall when a Pakistani soldier crossed by mistake on the other side of the border he didnt even have a weapon on him. he approached a post thinking it was his inside Kashmir and was captured and shot and then handed back in a flag meeting. his stupid mistake resulted in his death in the fog of war but could have been avoided just like this sniping case you are mentioning,.

we know Indian snipers firing tracer rounds on fields and burning them and then shooting people who tried to put the fire out who are basically subsistence farmers nothing noble there either.

Death of civilians and soldiers is regrettable but forces needs to be vigilant as gruesome massacres in the past took place when the border was not fence like chattisinghpura not far from border and 80000 Kalashnikov has already been recovered from the terrorists who are mostly infiltrated from Azad Kashmir

 

[rockstarIN]

Keeping LOC as peaceful as possible is the best interest of India. Making noise and internationalise the kashmir is what Pakistan wants. Simply that's the logic and the whole world understands that. Pakistan hardly fire to the civilian population who are Muslims. It is part of their game. The only different now is the new government po licy of tit for tat escalating the situition without considering about the peacefulness, they do not care about whether it helps internationalise or not.

 

[Folkindia]

What putrid pile of rubbish, totally erroneous and filled with your bias.. I wonder if you actually believe your own BS?!.. It wouldn't amaze me, given than you're indian and you people inherently suffer from delusions of grandeur, coupled with Tourette's syndrome. Not a healthy combination.

Keeping LOC as peaceful as possible is the best interest of India. Making noise and internationalise the kashmir is what Pakistan wants. Simply that's the logic and the whole world understands that. Pakistan hardly fire to the civilian population who are Muslims. It is part of their game. The only different now is the new government po licy of tit for tat escalating the situition without considering about the peacefulness, they do not care about whether it helps internationalise or not.

 

[Areesh]

Was I ??..DO Show me where??!!
Are you suffering from early onset Alzheimers? Or is it perhaps your inability grasp the written language ?Either Ways you have some serious comprehension issues..then you have the audacity to project your inadequacies on others!

So you are a liar too other than being an arse. Here is where you were asking me not to use Indian source to report Indian casualties since I don't trust and accept Indian military fed reports of Pakistani casualties reported in Indian media. Here is where you came up with this weird logic:

Indian aggression at LOC | Page 64

And now in this thread you also don't agree with Pakistani claim of 5 Indian casualties and thanking a bharati who is calling it fake propaganda. Whatever happened to your face saving rule of sticking to one source. Behaving like an arse. like always??

Do you consider this news as crap and source untrustworthy?..a simple Yes or No answer will suffice.

No since it is about Indian casualties I would trust NDTV or Hindustan times over this one for Indian casualties. Even though I hope this many soldiers die from your side.

Because as per your stated position you should..then why mince your words?

You should have asked a more difficult question from me.

 

[Hurter]

Heavy Overnight Shelling by Pakistan at International Border in Jammu and Kashmir, Several BSF Posts Targeted

There seems to be no end to the ceasefire violations by Pakistan as its troops resorted to heavy overnight shelling, targeting several Border Security Force (BSF) posts, in various sectors at the International Border in Jammu and Kashmir.

The Director General of the BSF is scheduled to go to Jammu today and visit the forward areas to take stock of the situation.

Yesterday, 15 Indian posts came under fire from the Pakistan Rangers in the Samba and Hiranagar sectors. One BSF jawan who was injured in the firing later succumbed to his injuries.

Indian retaliatory fire has killed five Pakistan Rangers. Apart from this, one civilian, a woman, has been killed and 10 others injured as a result of Pakistani fire, according to the BSF.

Meanwhile, most of border population in the Samba and Hiranagar sectors have been evacuated and moved to safer places, to avoid any casualties. Authorities have also ordered the closure of all schools in the Hiranagar and Marheen region, and also issued a notification for the postponement of the ongoing examinations for Class XI.

The Kathua District administration has also closed all educational institutions indefinitely and has set up more camps to serve the people evacuated from villages close to the border.

The District Magistrate (DM) of Kathua said that Pakistani shelling has also extended a significant distance from the border, with shells exploding 3.5 km inside Indian territory, at places like Chakra, Sherpur and Londi.

Heavy Overnight Shelling by Pakistan at International Border in Jammu and Kashmir, Several BSF Posts Targeted

Right news!!

Take this fake news somewhere inside you.

 

[Armstrong]

@Icarus - Janaab zaraa pataa tou karvaiiin what in heaven's name is happening on the borders ?

It wouldn't make any sense for us to start hostilities seeing that we've got Zarb-e-Azb going on one hand, we're cleaning up the last remnants of separatism in Baluchistan, we've got Intelligence lead operations being conducted in the country (according to DG ISPR) and we've got some friction with the Iranians on our borders with them; we'd have to me exceptionally stupid to open up another front.

What are the Indians up to then ?

I'd ask @Xeric but abbb woh lift hi nahin karvateiii !