Featured Rajasthan Muslim Auto-rickshaw Driver Attacked, Forced To Chant 'Jai Shree Ram'

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Every person who claims to be a believer should. It eventually dictates all the actions he eventually takes and how one will be judged by the highest Authority of all


Based on your actions you can create a heaven or hell for yourself in this very world. But the good or bad promised in the hereafter far exceeds in magnitude than what we have in this world

Good.
Can you answer the question now?

 

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Which is BETTER or WORSE: to erase the oldest / original in toto OR force someone to chant a slogan.

Forcing anyone to say anything against their religious belief is the greater sin in my opinion

 

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[IsThisNameAvailable]

Forcing anyone to say anything against their religious belief is the greater sin in my opinion

Thanks for the answer.

 

[terry5]

When you support the oppression of Kashmiris ( muslims of India ) you deserve everything and more .

how you used to praise the Hindus for killing Kashmiris , how you used to support Hindus for raping Kashmiris ,

I say good and you deserve much much more .

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Forcing anyone to say anything against their religious belief is the greater sin in my opinion

Thanks for the answer.

On a related but more serious note, I would like to inform you why the world at large does not take your allegation of HR violation & forced occupation & mistreatment of muslims etc. seriously. Whether it is Israel-Palestine issue or K-valley under lockdown or incidents of lynching of minorities in India or Ram Temple construction in Ayodhya, you allege lot of things, no one takes it seriously. Perhaps you would like to know.

On one side, entire population of minority gets erased without a murmur. On the other side, one (or few) guys of minority get beaten up or lynched. You find the second one greater sin.

On one side, entire population of minority gets erased without a murmur. On the other side, one riot in Delhi, one riot in Gujarat, may be few more riots elsewhere. You shout 'genocide genocide' about second one while trying to avoid the first one.

On one side, entire population of minority gets erased without a murmur. On the other side, the population rises significantly. You shout mistreatment & genocide & what not about second one while keeping quiet about first one.

I dont know whether you pretend to search trees in forests are genuinely unable to see the sun in broad daylight. Rest assured, world wont take you seriously either way.

 

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and one "genocide" in Delhi? Thats it?

In India's 70 year history you can think of only progrom committed by Hindutva terrorists? You conveniently forgot Jammu, Hyderabad, Kashmir and Gujrat and without me even mentioning the 84 Sikh massacre. All these were comitted becuase these people did not agree with your religious beliefs

No reduction by even 0.01%?

You guys are practising. With enough tries you will become master of genocide. I have full faith in your Sanghi buddies

You erased in toto without someone like

Not sure how we Muslims are responsible your "erase toto" when we are closer to these ideals of toto than you are

By the way you are beginning to sound like a flat-earther who claims that new evil Copernican Theory destroyed the flat-earth theory along with the ancient wisdoms it held

 

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On a related but more serious note, I would like to inform you why the world at large does not take your allegation of HR violation & forced occupation & mistreatment of muslims etc. seriously. Whether it is Israel-Palestine issue or K-valley under lockdown or incidents of lynching of minorities in India or Ram Temple construction in Ayodhya, you allege lot of things, no one takes it seriously. Perhaps you would like to know

Because the non-muslim world at large has always held a grudge against Islam and its collective interest. It may have been sidelined in the post WWII world and days of the cold war but it was always there. The Islam's quick rise and its potential ability to convert all of the world gave serious headaches to the people who have a stake in keeping the world as it is. With the muslim world divided as it is, some forces believe they can deliver a major blow to Islam denying it justice and funding extremists within their ranks, with their wealth and power

On one side, entire population of minority gets erased without a murmur. On the other side, one (or few) guys of minority get beaten up or lynched. You find the second one greater sin.

Yes because the person you are beating up doesn't even agree with your version of history and beliefs. You are forcing your values on to him. Yes that is a greater sin. Ask anyone with a working brain between his shoulder

I dont know whether you pretend to search trees in forests are genuinely unable to see the sun in broad daylight

Not sure what language you translated this into English from but you butchered it

Rest assured, world wont take you seriously either way.

I could not care less if a world gone mad agrees with me or not. History has never been kind to a mad world anyway

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Because the non-muslim world at large has always held a grudge against Islam and its collective interest. It may have been sidelined in the post WWII world and days of the cold war but it was always there. The Islam's quick rise and its potential ability to convert all of the world gave serious headaches to the people who have a stake in keeping the world as it is. With the muslim world divided as it is, some forces believe they can deliver a major blow to Islam denying it justice and funding extremists within their ranks, with their wealth and power


Yes because the person you are beating up doesn't even agree with your version of history and beliefs. You are forcing your values on to him. Yes that is a greater sin. Ask anyone with a working brain between his shoulder


Not sure what language you translated this to English from but you butchered it


I could not care less if a world gone mad agrees with me or not. History has never been kind to a mad world anyway

LOL at the anger at the world not taking you seriously. But good that you accepted the fact.

I dont need to ask anyone with a working brain whether "cleaning entire specific group of population over a period 5 decades" is worse than "one (or few) getting beaten up or lynched over a period of 7 years". My own brain is enough to tell me which "sin" is of greater magnitude. India or Indic religions NEVER claimed to be perfect anyway. The PERFECT one doing smallest mistake is BIGGEST sin. Its BIGGER than the BIGGEST sin the imperfect can ever do. It simple logic. Very elementary. But nevermind

"I dont know whether you pretend to search trees in forests OR are genuinely unable to see the sun in broad daylight" => An OR was missing. Anyone familiar with the ENGLISH proverb "missing the forests for the trees" would have been able to ignore the "butchering of English" and decipher the great hidden wisdom in the simple sentence.

"...world at large a always held grudge against islam..." Wonderful really. Once again you proved that you know more about kafirs than kafirs know about themselves. After all, its written in the divine revelation. On a serious note, you seem to be an educated person. If you have such brainwashed state of mind, it is actually no wonder that many millions are going BOOM all over the world. They are much less to blame.

But its good discussing this with you. We are at least questioning & answering and presenting views & counter-views.

Cheers!

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

In India's 70 year history you can think of only progrom committed by Hindutva terrorists? You conveniently forgot Jammu, Hyderabad, Kashmir and Gujrat and without me even mentioning the 84 Sikh massacre. All these were comitted becuase these people did not agree with your religious beliefs

I am pointing out "genocides" and "pogroms" against muslims only and under the regime of "terrorist modi" only.
Otherwise, there was mumbai and bhagalpur & many more. And, sikhs dont crib day&night about 1984 anyway. In short, in 7 years of "terrorist modi", there was only one "pogrom" which was in Delhi during visit of POTUS.

You guys are practising. With enough tries you will become master of genocide. I have full faith in your Sanghi buddies

So we are practising what you are masters at? Should the master not teach the student or point out mistakes? Or is the master now ashamed of the skills he mastered?

Not sure how we Muslims are responsible your "erase toto" when we are closer to these ideals of toto than you are

Please rephrase thisas I didnt understand what you are trying to say. "erase in toto" means "erase in totality". Minorities are erased in totality. Who is to blame? Tomorrow if muslims are erased from India, you can at least blame Modi. But there is no one to blame when for erasure of minorities on your side? Thats great. Its called "meetha meeta gup gup, kadwa kadwa thoo thoo". Does not work in civilised world.

By the way you are beginning to sound like a flat-earther who claims that new evil Copernican Theory destroyed the flat-earth theory along with the ancient wisdoms it held

LOL at the final divine revelation being wisest of all. Its like saying "God learns & improves & reveals the improvised versions from time to time". And when, all of a sudden, God realised that now he is God and doesnt need to improvise further, he sent the last wisest message. LOL

 

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LOL at the anger at the world not taking you seriously. But good that you accepted the fact.

I am not angry the world at all. On the contrary it's the world that angrily claims that no wrongs have been committed against the Muslim world. Not now nor in the past. Thanks for the admitting that world never took us seriously and want us dead under one filmsy pretext or the other

India or Indic religions NEVER claimed to be perfect anyway

Divine law has to be perfect since it from the divine. Otherwise how can it be differentiated from man made law?
BTW what do Indian laws agree upon other than the caste system? Who else will benefit from an all Hindu India other than the higher castes?

"I dont know whether you pretend to search trees in forests OR are genuinely unable to see the sun in broad daylight" => An OR was missing. Anyone familiar with the ENGLISH proverb "missing the forests for the trees" would have been able to ignore the "butchering of English" and decipher the great hidden wisdom in the simple sentence.

I understood the wisdom in that cryptic message of yours but it applies to you more than it applies to me

Once again you proved that you know more about kafirs than kafirs know about themselves. After all, its written in the divine revelation.

Isn't True Divine revelation perfect. The disbeliever will follow its script perfectly even though they stubbornly refuse to believe it

If you have such brainwashed state of mind

I am not the one forcing my beliefs on anyone like you. My arguments are good enough

it is actually no wonder that many millions are going BOOM all over the world

When people like you run out of arguments you start bombing our homes under filmsy pretexts

But its good discussing this with you. We are at least questioning & answering and presenting views & counter-views.

Thank you

 

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I am pointing out "genocides" and "pogroms" against muslims only and under the regime of "terrorist modi" only.
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And you are pretty excited to demolish a mosque that was built when even our great-grandfathers were not born? Whose the one holding the thousand year old grudge?

 

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LOL at the final divine revelation being wisest of all. Its like saying "God learns & improves & reveals the improvised versions from time to time". And when, all of a sudden, God realised that now he is God and doesnt need to improvise further, he sent the last wisest message. LOL

God doesn't need to improve his message. His message is perfect for the time it is revealed in (barring some time specific instructions in past religons). It's humans that need a refresher course from time to time. And also humans have a nasty habit of twisting his perfect message to suit their needs.

BTW what gods do Hindus even agree on?

 

[Verve]

the two persons that have been arrested were drunk when they attacked and assaulted Kachhawa

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @PAKISTANFOREVER @Musings @masterchief_mirza

This was my experience of India travels back in 1999 that I shared in another thread: a bit of alcohol inside Indian Hindus and the hate starts flowing out.

It was always there, but now they have a fascist government's backing to harm and kill.

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

I am not angry the world at all. On the contrary it's the world that angrily claims that no wrongs have been committed against the Muslim world. Not now or in the past. Thanks for the admitting that

The world-at-large has NEVER claimed to be PERFECT. It has NEVER claimed that it did not do anything wrong. It has done wrong against every weak & vulnerable group since ever, nothing special about muslims

Divine law has to be perfect since it from the divine. Otherwise how can it be differentiated from man made law?

Divine law should be perfect in theory. Divine creation of God should be perfect too. But God didn't make a perfect world, right? (On this point, even kafirs will agree with you). So if God did not make a perfect world (he could have done it but chose not to), there is no guarantee that he would make a perfect law & reveal it perfectly (he could have done it but chose not to). Will the perfect law be useful in an imperfect world? Unlikely. There is no perfect law or perfect world (as far as this material world goes). Beyond this world, there may be perfect worlds and perfect laws.

BTW what do Indian laws agree upon other than the caste system? Who else will benefit from an all Hindu India other than the higher castes?

Hindus dont live in La La Land. Whether India becomes all Hindu or remains as mix as it is today, the weak & vulnerable will be exploited irrespective of their caste, religion, language, whatever. The extent of exploitation may differ a bit here or there, but it will be far from perfect.

I understood the wisdom in that cryptic message of yours but it applies to you more than it applies to me

How? in pure numeric terms, lets say 1% of population converted (or erased) by force versus 100 individuals forced to say a slogan against their religious belief, which one is forest and which one trees?

I am not the one forcing my beliefs on anyone like you. My arguments are good enough

You can be brainwashed even if you dont force your beliefs. The two are different things. You consider "world at large holding a grudge against you". That's pure brainwashing whether or not you force it on me. On my part, I can assure you that I was never taught to hold grudge against anyone whom I dont know. So there is no question of me holding any grudge with you. You assume that just because the divine revelation told you so. One thing I will agree: Organised religions do hold grudge against other religions (organised as well as unorganised i.e. Indic)

When people like you run out of arguments you start bombing our homes under filmsy pretexts

do you agree that brainwashed folks go BOOM? or do you think they are right in doing that?
Since a seemingly educated person like you believes in "world at large having a grudge against you", is there anything wrong in assuming that the uneducated illiterate can be brainwashed to a much larger degree and can be much easily made to believe that "such & such country, sect, religion, community are our enemies who deserve to be killed"? Is anything wrong in my assumption that a uneducated person can be brainwashed much easily than a educated one?

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