Rafale is not a Game Changer - Senior Analyst Shahzad Chaudhry

[Ghessan]

Nobody know's I would say no for now.

yep that flame gave a lot of people goosebumps, the other 'talkshow' on the other side of the "world' was crazy and still has some fire under burnt up logs.

 

[BON PLAN]

For Pakistani ones..... here u go

https://imgur.com/m1ZQRLU

https://imgur.com/iXFLsfJ

https://imgur.com/vlwmXzz

Tom Clancy..... a source.... pffff ....

 

[BON PLAN]

The news sources stating meteor range at 150 are BS.

Meteor No Escape Zone > 60km
so the max range of Meteor can be >> 150km. But in a near rocket mode, ie with so few energy at the end that it can only reach a tanker in a full straight flight. ie useless.

The source saying that AMRAAM D has a >100km range is in the same situation : in a low energy end of flight, with a very low pk.

 

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A UAE M2000.

[Bréve] Un F-22 Raptor "tiré" par un Mirage 2000-9 - avionslegendaires.net

5 mars 2010, par Gaëtan. Décidément, les rapports de l'exercice multinational, intitulé ATLC (Advanced Tactical Leadership Course) disputé en décembre dernier aux Emirats (voir

www.avionslegendaires.net

 

[BON PLAN]

But i will take the vipers over the Mirage-2000 anyday

F16 > M2000 in low altitude
M2000 > F16 in mid to high altitude.

In dog fight the M2000 pilot has to take advantage very soon, thanks to it's high ITR. If not it degrades too much its energy and then F16 win.

 

[PradoTLC]

Tom Clancy..... a source.... pffff ....

if you bothered to read carefully he was qouting Gen. Chuck... yes same the guy who smashed the Iraqi airforce in a few hours...he words have a lot of weightage..

 

[fitpOsitive]

But F15 might be.

 

[ziaulislam]

Meteor No Escape Zone > 60km
so the max range of Meteor can be >> 150km. But in a near rocket mode, ie with so few energy at the end that it can only reach a tanker in a full straight flight. ie useless.

The source saying that AMRAAM D has a >100km range is in the same situation : in a low energy end of flight, with a very low pk.

Lol every one knows that aim120c has >100km range and aim 120d >160km range(60% imporvement) with better kinetics and data link and end stage seeker

 

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Lol every one knows that aim120c has >100km range and aim 120d >160km range(60% imporvement) with better kinetics and data link and end stage seeker

big LOL.
better kinetic ? what improvement that can justify 60% more range?
Data link? no data link before? Explain us how a data link or new data link can expand the range....
End stage seeker? every seeker is end stage. Explain us how a niw seeker can expand the range....

 

[ziaulislam]

big LOL.
better kinetic ? what improvement that can justify 60% more range?
Data link? no data link before? Explain us how a data link or new data link can expand the range....
End stage seeker? every seeker is end stage. Explain us how a niw seeker can expand the range....

why so angry man..i know americans are lying
aim 120d, f-35 and f 22 are all hoax..
UAE was drawn in same hoax trusting their f16 instead of rafale and now looking for f35

 

[LeGenD]

Meteor No Escape Zone > 60km
so the max range of Meteor can be >> 150km. But in a near rocket mode, ie with so few energy at the end that it can only reach a tanker in a full straight flight. ie useless.

The source saying that AMRAAM D has a >100km range is in the same situation : in a low energy end of flight, with a very low pk.

FYI

"The truth is that the Meteor isn’t that new at all as it has been in development for nearly two decades. Still there is no doubt that the missile is extremely impressive, but it is not necessarily the best solution for the beyond-visual-range (BVR) job for all fighters and for all scenarios."

AIM-120D is very impressive AMRAAM and its effective range is TWICE that of older AIM-120C7 model (close to 200 KM mark).

AIM-120D is very well-rounded and resilient AMRAAM - effective in both WVR and BVR engagement capacities (rare characteristic). This weapon system will deliver results in situations where even AIM-9X might not be able to.

Is the European Meteor Air-To-Air Missile Really the Best in the World?

Some would say the best arrow is the one still left in your quiver.

www.thedrive.com

Some strike platforms are equipped to utilize an AMRAAM to its maximum potential while others are not. For instance, the latest F-15 variants can make the most out of an AMRAAM in potential engagements which is not possible in the case of Rafale - a medium capacity/capability Western fighter jet.

 

[Nomad40]

F16 > M2000 in low altitude
M2000 > F16 in mid to high altitude.

In dog fight the M2000 pilot has to take advantage very soon, thanks to it's high ITR. If not it degrades too much its energy and then F16 win.

LOLLLLLLLLL

 

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LOLLLLLLLLL

explain why?

 

[BON PLAN]

https://www.ilmailuliitto.fi/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/rafale_finlande_13x18_1219_pap_v7.pdf

Definitively : frame life = 9000 hours

 

[Nomad40]

explain why?

For that I would have to explain how a mirage will fight and how the F-16 will, very long a tedious.


Hence I can give you a hint.


The mirages strength Lies in the the front and how the pilot wishes to turn that nose of his.


No matter where you start a pure dogfight you will always end at the deck.