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R-73 ARCHER, R-77 ADDER missiles and Ejection Seat of W/C Abhinandan!

No - it achieved its objective. To prove PAF and DGISPR was lying about F16 usage. It achieved its objective - case closed. There is nothing else that need to be done.


Actually it has done more than PAF has. It painted air battle picture - complete with how many aircrafts , the vectors and the response. PAF other than issue statement through DGISPR has done nothing. I am waiting on some information about supposed Su 30 - which i honestly believe is well concoted lie.


Neutral expert as in PDF members , right ? I mean it does not matter. Here's an awesome chance for you to screw IAF and GOI - release the serial numbers , paint air battle picture and lay this theory to rest. Serial #'s will prove the F16 shot down as bogus and Air battle picture will force IAF on backfoot about Su 30. It actually flew the same Su 30 - prove that its not.


Comon Areesh - you know what i am talking about. It should not be difficult to get a clear shot of serial number. Dont give me the chalta hain attitude. Show the number in the exact same way that IAF did. This is the chance.



But IAF never claimed to have material evidence ! Its has been clear from day 1. We have radar intercepts, comm intercepts, visual sightings , EW signatures through which we are confident that an F16 went down. It has very clearly stated that it does not have material evidence.
The least PAF can do is share similar evidence of for the Su 30 shot down.


It doesnt work like that. You make a claim - you lay out the proof. In case of Su 30 - present the proof , the planes flew on republic day. For F16 - lets start with serial numbers. I am more than eager to get serial numbers - for i believe people who are truthful have nothing to be afraid. I believe in IAF and our checks / balances. Even in case of fraticide - it publicly declared 'we screwed up' - i was upset but then i accepted it. Its the right process.


IAF always had consistent story. Gafoora changed the story every time - need i say more.



Thank you for posting the article. I read through the article . Here's the summary "India’s latest release of information is interesting, but it remains too circumstantial and limited to put the issue of whether or not the IAF shot down an F-16 to rest for good. The Indian government’s repeated claims, and the counter-claims of an audit of Pakistani Vipers, only seem to raise new questions about exactly what happened in the skies over Kashmir more than a month ago"

I agree with the above summary. All the author is saying "its confusing and not enough". Hence lets start with serial numbers of missiles and we will go from there. You guys should be helping out the PAF by making the serial numbers public.

Lets see what this leads to - perhaps serial numbers will be put out on 27th.


Still waiting for the certificate from Russia confirming all your su-30’s are intact.


Also can you prove that IAF did not paint the AMRAM serial number on a piece of metal as they knew one day they would lose a lot of aircraft to the AIM-120. I think it took some time for IAF chief to show this as the painted part had to be flown all the way from Israel.

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So this serves as the fuel throughout the journey ?
@Sine Nomine


Give that man a privacy yar, UHU does irritate everyone.
In case of R73, as @Sine Nomine mentioned, It would serve as a sort of an auxiliary powering unit to steer the missile hence freeing/dedicating the solid fuel of the R73 to power forward.

@anathema

Are you intellectually numb?

Christine Flair blasted the entire narrative of your Air Force on stage while your Chief didn't have the balls to utter a single word in the defense and honor of the very force he commanded. All he had was a wicked, demonizing facial expression. While the junior ranking officers stood up and mansplained the same journalist who has been anti Pakistan from day 1.

The burden of proof lies with you, Indians. We had your pilot. We have your wreckage. All you could retrieve was blasted fragments of an AMRAAM and the wreckage of your own heli.

This is ladies and gentlemen, the net result of so called Operation Bandar of these incompetent assholes called Indians.

I'm amazed to see your audacity of even showing up on this thread. You deserve the Vir Chakra every bit more than Abhinandan.
 
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They should have label Mig-21 ejection seat with its name "KM-1" which has two parachutes one for pilot and one for the seat. which solves "dosra banda" mystery.
 
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In case of R73, as @Sine Nomine mentioned, It would serve as a sort of an auxiliary powering unit to steer the missile hence freeing/dedicating the solid fuel of the R73 to power forward.

@anathema

Are you intellectually numb?

Christine Flair blasted the entire narrative of your Air Force on stage while your Chief didn't have the balls to utter a single word in the defense and honor of the very force he commanded. All he had was a wicked, demonizing facial expression. While the junior ranking officers stood up and mansplained the same journalist who has been anti Pakistan from day 1.

The burden of proof lies with you, Indians. We had your pilot. We have your wreckage. All you could retrieve was blasted fragments of an AMRAAM and the wreckage of your own heli.

This is ladies and gentlemen, the net result of so called Operation Bandar of these incompetent assholes called Indians.

I'm amazed to see your audacity of even showing up on this thread. You deserve the Vir Chakra every bit more than Abhinandan.

A flat earth theorist who believes there is a big glass dome on top of a flat earth just tried to launch a rocket to go to space.. and died; so we can give Indians a bit more leevay since their media is preaching to a massive flat earth type society.
 
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can paf get any info to use it for reverse technology


Out dated mate. We can make better if we actually wanted to and put some money into it.
Best is to do joint ventures with Turkey and China to have own AAM's and AGM's just like having own aerial platforms.

A flat earth theorist who believes there is a big glass dome on top of a flat earth just tried to launch a rocket to go to space.. and died; so we can give Indians a bit more leevay since their media is preaching to a massive flat earth type society.


Yet, he was able to think freely from the indoctrinated version of things unlike people completely hooked up to the matrix and defending it, and thinking people with ability to question are some how mad.
That's a bare basic compounded ignorance mentality right there.
 
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Out dated mate. We can make better if we actually wanted to and put some money into it.
Best is to do joint ventures with Turkey and China to have own AAM's and AGM's just like having own aerial platforms.

R-73 and 77 are not out dated at all. They are both comparable to Aim-9 and Amraam.
 
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We used to call it CLA=comfort level adjustment back as teens.
I can make pretty nasty jokes with this and stick to the context but then it doesn't go with my Title....

I need a second Id for trolling :what:o_O:secret:
 
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Out dated mate. We can make better if we actually wanted to and put some money into it.
Best is to do joint ventures with Turkey and China to have own AAM's and AGM's just like having own aerial platforms.




Yet, he was able to think freely from the indoctrinated version of things unlike people completely hooked up to the matrix and defending it, and thinking people with ability to question are some how mad.
That's a bare basic compounded ignorance mentality right there.
Well, why don’t those unplugged from the “matrix” just walk of the edge? They’ve got feet
 
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Well, why don’t those unplugged from the “matrix” just walk of the edge? They’ve got feet

Well, even if one was to believe in the flat earth theory. There is not supposed to be an edge of the infinite earthly realm with no edge.
Some times it's good to know what we want to criticize or have a difference of opinion with.
 
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Well, even if one was to believe in the flat earth theory. There is not supposed to be an edge of the infinite earthly realm with no edge.
Some times it's good to know what we want to criticize or have a difference of opinion with.
So the infinite earth came about after flat earth was found to be the fantasy realm it is. But as I said, if Indians can believe that Abhinandan shot down a F-16 even with all 4 missiles nicely sitting in the picture then flat or infinite or tetrahedron earthers and chemtrailers can believe all they like.

After all, it is the power of belief that makes people drink animal urine to cure coronaviruses so just all sides of the same intellectual capacity.
 
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So the infinite earth came about after flat earth was found to be the fantasy realm it is. But as I said, if Indians can believe that Abhinandan shot down a F-16 even with all 4 missiles nicely sitting in the picture then flat or infinite or tetrahedron earthers and chemtrailers can believe all they like.

After all, it is the power of belief that makes people drink animal urine to cure coronaviruses so just all sides of the same intellectual capacity.


It's not the power of belief that makes people drink cow piss.
It;s the power of indoctrinated minds following a system blindly without questioning it.

There are people who believe everything NASA and science tells them.
And then there are people who question everything and find their own answers.

It's easy to follow, and it's hard to question and choose your own path. And those who lack the will to step out of the comfort zones for it takes a lot of will power and strength, every one who has ever dared is a mad man for sure :)
 
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