Questions about Hindus under Mughal empire

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hindu religion is illogical when one use his common sense he finds that it is based on only perceptions with no logic.such as how deaf mute blind immovable man made idols can help a person in need so I think logic given by Islam is very strong and also there is strong
spirit in Islamic rituals and teachings and also there is beauty spirit and shine in face of a Muslim which is absent in non Muslims and satisfaction and a sense of strength which can be felt by implementation of Islamic principles in one life so I think these matters also played a role in
spread of Islam

Nice click-bait [facepalm]

Call what you may, but please excuse the logic part, LOL. Religion do not confirm to any logic. Even by a simple logic, god (including yours) do not exist at all.

Coming to religions- on one hand, there is this "illogical" religion surviving thousands of years, originating much before any messenger of god had come, and still exists despite so many messengers coming and going back. They believe that god himself/herself comes to earth when needs to restore justice, rather then sending his/her agents/messengers. And then there is another religion, which would be a serious copyright issue (with other "book born" religions) had it been started in today's world.

 

[Yaseen1]

Of course you practice it so you should know better about Islam than me. My point was not about Islam itself but how rulers have persecuted Hindus/Buddhists in the name of Islam. And this is not limited to Hindus & Buddists alone. Even Umayyads and Persians have also used it for their own political purposes. Even Turko-Mughals have used it when it suited them.

BTW Hindus do not worship Idols themselves. Idols are used to help people focus when they pray. Hindus worship the supreme soul that is manifested in various forms of energy/life.

Of course you practice it so you should know better about Islam than me. My point was not about Islam itself but how rulers have persecuted Hindus/Buddhists in the name of Islam. And this is not limited to Hindus & Buddists alone. Even Umayyads and Persians have also used it for their own political purposes. Even Turko-Mughals have used it when it suited them.

BTW Hindus do not worship Idols themselves. Idols are used to help people focus when they pray. Hindus worship the supreme soul that is manifested in various forms of energy/life.

large number of idols make it impossible to focus similarly the these are made according to one own personal choice which shows that GOD ALMIGHTY HAS not ordered them
to make these idols they call these idols for help which is illogical becauase these idols themselves need help from humans for their existence.GOD form never changes because change shows defeciencies

 

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large number of idols make it impossible to focus similarly the these are made according to one own personal choice which shows that GOD ALMIGHTY HAS not ordered them
to make these idols they call these idols for help which is illogical becauase these idols themselves need help from humans for their existence.GOD form never changes because change shows defeciencies

Then why do we have mosques? And how can one say that god has not ordered them to make idols? God is almighty, without his will, nothing can happen, right? by the same logic, god orders men to make whatever they make, including idols (for some) and including bombs (for some others). It's all god's will mate.

 

[gayMo]

Nice click-bait [facepalm]

Call what you may, but please excuse the logic part, LOL. Religion do not confirm to any logic. Even by a simple logic, god (including yours) do not exist at all.

Coming to religions- on one hand, there is this "illogical" religion surviving thousands of years, originating much before any messenger of god had come, and still exists despite so many messengers coming and going back. They believe that god himself/herself comes to earth when needs to restore justice, rather then sending his/her agents/messengers. And then there is another religion, which would be a serious copyright issue (with other "book born" religions) had it been started in today's world.

The funny thing os that both God and allah will stop existing when humans disappear one dsy. It will happen just not in our lifetimes.

large number of idols make it impossible to focus similarly the these are made according to one own personal choice which shows that GOD ALMIGHTY HAS not ordered them
to make these idols they call these idols for help which is illogical becauase these idols themselves need help from humans for their existence.GOD form never changes because change shows defeciencies

So how do you call for for help?

Then why do we have mosques? And how can one say that god has not ordered them to make idols? God is almighty, without his will, nothing can happen, right? by the same logic, god orders men to make whatever they make, including idols (for some) and including bombs (for some others). It's all god's will mate.

Stop responding to such threads. They are just wrong perkod. What we do is correct.

 

[Hamza913]

Thanks... I need to Google want is Altaic

They're people who came from around the Altai mountains in Mongolia.

 

[Kashmiri Brahman]

Nader Shah was a detestable and despicable creature, calling him an organism is an insult to living creatures.

We don't exactly like him either, since he stomped through modern day Pakistan too. Glad he got stabbed and died, he deserved it.

Older Persian rulers such as Cyrus were much better, they treated the people of Indus much more appropriately after conquering the region and incorporated the people of Indus into the army.



They were also Persianised culturally.



Lot's of people are descended from the Huna people, such as the Gujjars and Rajputs.

But we are turks. Still nomads sadly we lost our tribes but on the bright side we are not United as one pure race.

Our folklore are full of stories of our empress turkish ness and conquest with migration.

 

[Kedardel]

Lot's of people are descended from the Huna people, such as the Gujjars and Rajputs.

Gurjars are not descendents of Huna, Huna is only one of many sub-caste (gotra) of Gurjars.

 

[Kedardel]

hindu religion is illogical when one use his common sense he finds that it is based on only perceptions with no logic.such as how deaf mute blind immovable man made idols can help a person in need so I think logic given by Islam is very strong and also there is strong
spirit in Islamic rituals and teachings and also there is beauty spirit and shine in face of a Muslim which is absent in non Muslims and satisfaction and a sense of strength which can be felt by implementation of Islamic principles in one life so I think these matters also played a role in
spread of Islam

Let's not start this debate of logic in religions. Are u suggesting if logic fails then the religion also fails. There is a reason why blasphemy laws are there. There is tons of material online challenging various logics in all the religions, u should read them and counter them there.

 

[wiseone2]

to be fair, the poor guy had to face the full weight of nader shah's army. (just look at what nader did to the mighty ottomans as an example).

one of our last wars of aggression. we defeated an indian army 6 times larger and took/sack delhi. You Pakistanis should learn from this

pardon my interruption~ as you were...

I doubt the Mughal army was 6 times larger

 

[Yaseen1]

Then why do we have mosques? And how can one say that god has not ordered them to make idols? God is almighty, without his will, nothing can happen, right? by the same logic, god orders men to make whatever they make, including idols (for some) and including bombs (for some others). It's all god's will mate.[/
Muslims can pray any where on this earth and we donot worship mosques and not call them for help.they are like any other building to provide shelter to humans but are sacred because people come to offer prayers but these idols are not required to provide any benefit such as shelter to people performing prayers

Then why do we have mosques? And how can one say that god has not ordered them to make idols? God is almighty, without his will, nothing can happen, right? by the same logic, god orders men to make whatever they make, including idols (for some) and including bombs (for some others). It's all god's will mate.[/
Muslims can pray any where on this earth and we donot worship mosques and not call them for help.they are like any other building to provide shelter to humans but are sacred because people come to offer prayers but these idols are not required to provide any benefit such as shelter to people performing prayers .there is no proof that GOD ALMIGHTY HAS ordered to worship these idols there is no authentic book in which this is mentioned and these are based on people perceptions

Then why do we have mosques? And how can one say that god has not ordered them to make idols? God is almighty, without his will, nothing can happen, right? by the same logic, god orders men to make whatever they make, including idols (for some) and including bombs (for some others). It's all god's will mate.

The funny thing os that both God and allah will stop existing when humans disappear one dsy. It will happen just not in our lifetimes.


So how do you call for for help?


Stop responding to such threads. They are just wrong perkod. What we do is correct.

ALLAH ALMIGHTY exists forever even when human stop to exist then same human will again formed after death by ALLAH ALMIGHTY on doomsday forever human existence.we call ALLAH ALMIGHTY ALONE for help

 

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ALLAH ALMIGHTY exists forever even when human stop to exist then same human will again formed after death by ALLAH ALMIGHTY on doomsday forever human existence.we call ALLAH ALMIGHTY ALONE for help

That's your belief, and you have no proof, no logic to support that.

By your own logic, idols are sacred because people prey to them, as a symbolic means to prey to god, same as mosque, or the cube.

 

[Yaseen1]

That's your belief, and you have no proof, no logic to support that.

By your own logic, idols are sacred because people prey to them, as a symbolic means to prey to god, same as mosque, or the cube.

That's your belief, and you have no proof, no logic to support that.

By your own logic, idols are sacred because people prey to them, as a symbolic means to prey to god, same as mosque, or the cube.

That's your belief, and you have no proof, no logic to support that.

By your own logic, idols are sacred because people prey to them, as a symbolic means to prey to god, same as mosque, or the cube.

we have proof of ALLAH ALMIGHTY existence in the form of Holy Quran which is the most authentic book in this world and after 1400 yrs it exist in the same form and no one is able to make a single verse equal to its smallest verse.similarly jews and christans were also told in their books to worship ALLAH ALMIGHTY ALONE .Again Muslim donot worship mosques but pray only to ALLAH ALMIGHTY unlike hindus who worship idols which you can see when Muslims are in journey if they not find any mosque they pray in open ground

 

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we have proof of ALLAH ALMIGHTY existence in the form of Holy Quran which is the most authentic book in this world and after 1400 yrs it exist in the same form and no one is able to make a single verse equal to its smallest verse.similarly jews and christans were also told in their books to worship ALLAH ALMIGHTY ALONE .Again Muslim donot worship mosques but pray only to ALLAH ALMIGHTY unlike hindus who worship idols which you can see when Muslims are in journey if they not find any mosque they pray in open ground

Brother, you are blinded by your faith. I don't see any leeway to discuss with you on logic. Worship your god, whichever way you want, go read the holy book. And let me know where your god has told you to compare your religion and its practices with other religions. why is this inferiority complex? Why do you need to argue, trying to prove that your god is the only god? just believe in it, inside you. By trying to demean other's religious practices, you are demeaning your own god.

I respect every religion, and hence would try my best to not fall into this trap of pulling your faith off the hooks by demeaning arguments.

 

[StraightShooter]

large number of idols make it impossible to focus similarly the these are made according to one own personal choice which shows that GOD ALMIGHTY HAS not ordered them
to make these idols they call these idols for help which is illogical becauase these idols themselves need help from humans for their existence.GOD form never changes because change shows defeciencies

Do you go to a restaurant or a car showroom and complain about too many options being provided to choose from?

Hinduism does not have any set of rules or a book to follow. It is the most liberal and flexible religion which provides freedom of choice to practice or not practice what one believes in . It allows people to follow monotheism, dualism and atheism. It recognizes, respects and tries to preserve all types of matter both living and non living.

 

[Yaseen1]

Do you go to a restaurant or a car showroom and complain about too many options being provided to choose from?

Hinduism does not have any set of rules or a book to follow. It is the most liberal and flexible religion which provides freedom of choice to practice or not practice what one believes in . It allows people to follow monotheism, dualism and atheism. It recognizes, respects and tries to preserve all types of matter both living and non living.

GOD is only one as a country is run by one prime minister and if there are two different pms from opposing parties they will fight each other to run a country on their own way and whole system will be destroyed.the options are required when each individual object is incomplete but if one object is complete and perfect in all sense then looking for different objects with partial and incompleteness is waste of resources




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