PYD now confirming Turkish shelling of YPG areas near Aleppo Syria [PIC]

[Chevil]

Kurds are enough of a threat to you with 70 year old rifles no need for us to ''threaten'' you.

Why don't you understand that there is no need for a conflict between the two countries ? The trade volume between Iran&Turkey is very important.

When our coward government is trying to reduce tensions with others , others will see it as sign of weakness in Middle East rather than sign of good intention .... reformist never had any good policies in Middle East ...

this is your war .russia esad and ypg kiling innocent people .they dont fight aganist isis.. we would be quite the time when you or your people are in trouble...it is time to help those people.esad already killed half of million people..

last time I checked , Pakistan was in east of Iran and doesn't have any Kurds ....

 

[500]

Why are Turks acting like Kurds are a proxy of Iran to attack Turks? Hey, Turk bros, the Kurds were the darlings of NATO. We haven't been going Kurd Kurd Kurd for 5 years. It's your own allies that have done that.

Yes, NATO and Turkey literally saved Kurds when they were destroyed by IS in Kobani.

But right now Kurds in Afrin started a scoundrel coward aggression on rebels in North Aleppo, who are already attacked from east by Iran, south by IS and air by Russia.

 

[Pakistani E]

And this is why Turkey and the Gulf Arabs need to look carefully at which ethnic groups in Pakistan have historically been their friends and allies. Generally the Iranic and Turkic origin people of Western Pakistan.





Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto was the Bashar of Pakistan. A feudal sectarian racist and self-declared 'soosha-list' who ruined everything Ayub Khan had built, and deliberately worked for the partition of the country because he didn't want to let those 'little dark-skinned Bangalis' (his words) win an election. The only people who could have saved Pakistan in such a situation were Pakistanis.

I don't see you blaming the Chinese for not sending soldiers to fight the Indian Army, despite the fact they had much greater capability to do so...and let's not forget that 90,000 Pakistanis abandoned by the vaunted Generals of Pakistan would have been lost if Pakistan's Arab, Turkish, Chinese allies had not placed pressure on the diplomatic front.

Oh, and let's not forget the Shah of Iran, and the favors which he did Pakistan. How did Pakistan repay him?

I blame Bhutto as well as the Generals of that time, I blame mostly Pakistanis for the 1971 war and the handling of all this issue regarding rights of Bengalis.

I also blame the Chinese but I also understand they were under pressure from the soviets. I don't know which Arab or Turkish allies intervened to bring back the Pak soldiers. But I would be interested to learn if that did happen.

The Shah of Iran is no more. What do you mean how did we repay him? He was toppled in a popular uprising, did you expect Pakistan to invade Iran to shore up the Shah?

 

[xenon54 out]

Turkey wont allow a future pkk base on its border, no matter how much Iranians cry about it.

 

[Pakistani E]

this is your war .russia esad and ypg kiling innocent people .they dont fight aganist isis.. we would be quite the time when you or your people are in trouble...it is time to help those people.esad already killed half of million people..

Bashar al Assad is no saint, but the guys supported by Turkey, Saudis etc are no angels either. Muslims fighting each other while both have two different powers behind them fighting their own proxy war. Stupid Muslim countries have always fought each other at the behest of foreign powers.

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Assad or his allies. I am merely saying that Pakistan should not pick a side in this conflict. This conflict has the potential to become a full blown Civil war in the Muslim community between Sunni and Shia. Why should Pakistan allow that to happen? Pakistan should be trying to bring both parties together to sit down and negotiate. Both Iran and Saudi arabia, and now Turkey need to stop this madness and understand you are all Muslim brothers, when I look at the pictures of people suffering in Syria, I can't tell who's Sunni or Shia. All I see are humans suffering because ego maniacs on both sides can't see sense in settling their differences through peaceful negotiations.

last time I checked , Pakistan was in east of Iran and doesn't have any Kurds ....

Off topic but the Baloch ethnic group in Pakistan/Iran are genetically similar to Kurds.

EDIT: I should probably clarify that I support Turkey against PKK and those that are providing weapons to them from Syria. I was merely giving an overview of the Syrian civil war as a whole.

 

[MoshteAhani]

When our coward government is trying to reduce tensions with others , others will see it as sign of weakness in Middle East rather than sign of good intention .... reformist never had any good policies in Middle East ...
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Middle East strategic and military affairs are in the hands of the office of the supreme leader and the IRGC, not the government.

 

[Gold Eagle]

Yet we haven't seen even a single Turkish bullet to be fired towards the ISIS!

 

[Al-Kurdi]

Fascists among kurds who have committed ethnic cleansing against nearby arab and turkmen villages deserve no less...

is it not fun how most of those who liked this bullshit comment are TURKS?

Bashar al Assad is no saint, but the guys supported by Turkey, Saudis etc are no angels either. Muslims fighting each other while both have two different powers behind them fighting their own proxy war. Stupid Muslim countries have always fought each other at the behest of foreign powers.

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Assad or his allies. I am merely saying that Pakistan should not pick a side in this conflict. This conflict has the potential to become a full blown Civil war in the Muslim community between Sunni and Shia. Why should Pakistan allow that to happen? Pakistan should be trying to bring both parties together to sit down and negotiate. Both Iran and Saudi arabia, and now Turkey need to stop this madness and understand you are all Muslim brothers, when I look at the pictures of people suffering in Syria, I can't tell who's Sunni or Shia. All I see are humans suffering because ego maniacs on both sides can't see sense in settling their differences through peaceful negotiations.



Off topic but the Baloch ethnic group in Pakistan/Iran are genetically similar to Kurds.

EDIT: I should probably clarify that I support Turkey against PKK and those that are providing weapons to them from Syria. I was merely giving an overview of the Syrian civil war as a whole.

Baloch hail from Media and speak a north west Iranic language just as Kurds. Historically, yes. Genetically not quite.

Yes, NATO and Turkey literally saved Kurds when they were destroyed by IS in Kobani.

But right now Kurds in Afrin started a scoundrel coward aggression on rebels in North Aleppo, who are already attacked from east by Iran, south by IS and air by Russia.

You think Turkey would have perfered "PKK" in Kobane over IS? No. Turkey did not have much choice but allow logistics and other stuff come through after USAF started bombarding IS in a campaign to help Kurds("PKK") to retake the town. One of the costs of being a NATO member.

It's about seizing the opportunity and giving payback. After Mare and Tel Rifaat the landscape is predominatly Kurdish and Kurdistani land.

"Kurdistan flag in the entrance of Al bab before FSA backstabbed kurds & sold them to ISIS."

Don't forget that IS and FSA under Aikidi togheter went on full offensive hand in hand 2013 against Jabhat-Al Akrad(used to be FSA's ally) who were in control of most Kurdish areas north of Aleppo countryside and started a ethnic cleansing of Kurds.

Kurdish survivors from Tal Aran&Tal Hase massacre

This is karma. The "rebels" betrayed the Kurds not vice versa.

 

[libertycall]

Bashar al Assad is no saint, but the guys supported by Turkey, Saudis etc are no angels either. Muslims fighting each other while both have two different powers behind them fighting their own proxy war. Stupid Muslim countries have always fought each other at the behest of foreign powers.

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for Assad or his allies. I am merely saying that Pakistan should not pick a side in this conflict. This conflict has the potential to become a full blown Civil war in the Muslim community between Sunni and Shia. Why should Pakistan allow that to happen? Pakistan should be trying to bring both parties together to sit down and negotiate. Both Iran and Saudi arabia, and now Turkey need to stop this madness and understand you are all Muslim brothers, when I look at the pictures of people suffering in Syria, I can't tell who's Sunni or Shia. All I see are humans suffering because ego maniacs on both sides can't see sense in settling their differences through peaceful negotiations.

Off topic but the Baloch ethnic group in Pakistan/Iran are genetically similar to Kurds.

EDIT: I should probably clarify that I support Turkey against PKK and those that are providing weapons to them from Syria. I was merely giving an overview of the Syrian civil war as a whole.

You protest too much.

"If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality." - Desmond Tutu

No, they aren't.

When someone as well-informed as the first secretary General of Hezbollah (Sheikh Subhi Al-Tufayli) and one of its founding members says that he told Iran to stay out of this, and that now “Iran and Hezbollah bear responsibility for every Syrian killed, every tree felled, and every house destroyed.” I think we can guess who is responsible.

Not sure why you keep trying to create some equivalence in the role of Turkey and that of Iran. Turkey isn't bombing Shiite villagers.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

result of turkish bombardment

 

[Pakistani E]

You protest too much.

"If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality." - Desmond Tutu

No, they aren't.

When someone as well-informed as the first secretary General of Hezbollah (Sheikh Subhi Al-Tufayli) and one of its founding members says that he told Iran to stay out of this, and that now “Iran and Hezbollah bear responsibility for every Syrian killed, every tree felled, and every house destroyed.” I think we can guess who is responsible.

Not sure why you keep trying to create some equivalence in the role of Turkey and that of Iran. Turkey isn't bombing Shiite villagers.

Okay Iran is more responsible than any other nation. But what should Pakistan do?

 

[Chevil]

Middle East strategic and military affairs are in the hands of the office of the supreme leader and the IRGC, not the government.

What is a lie , for sure IRGC was against al Ebadi and sees him as American puppets ... but our National Security council decide to support al Ebadi to reduce tension ....

 

[libertycall]

Okay Iran is more responsible than any other nation. But what should Pakistan do?

Well the first thing is say what some of Iran's own supporters are telling them, Bashar needs to go, and be replaced with an interim government ready to hold elections.

Pakistan should also offer to be part of any relief efforts for people affected by this war.

 

[MoshteAhani]

What is a lie , for sure IRGC was against al Ebadi and sees him as American puppets ... but our National Security council decide to support al Ebadi to reduce tension ....

Important affairs are coordinated with the Supreme leader.

 

[anatolia]

Yet we haven't seen even a single Turkish bullet to be fired towards the ISIS!

you asked a bullet i offered you more