Putin: "There was never a country called Kazakhstan"

[Surenas]

you are superior on paper because you published more papers as a nation? Ok show me some achievements in industry technology? All you Farsi can do is make fake fighter jets with third rate parts you can buy off eBay. Those papers you have written are nice but it is not an achievement by itself.

Yes, it is. It is how scientific progress is being measured, and google is your friend if you want to read about achievements accomplished in Iran. It isn't strange that Iran always scores better on international scientific competitions than Turkey.

Same way your parents that fled Iran to clean toilets in Netherlands are not scientist. Most of you can't even speak descent Dutch.

Should I post pictures of your people cleaning toilets in Europe again?

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Yes, they invaded Iran, but not due to wars, but due to the fact that Iran was a toothless country after the Arab invasion.

Then may Allah bless Arabs for bringing light to Persian soil.

 

[Surenas]

The betrayal of Iran with Austria-hungarian empire against Turkey could go down as the most treachorus moment in islamic history. I swear till this day i don't know how did sultan sulieman held himself of not wiping out the persians out. But then again He was sulieman the magnifcent.

The Ottomans never couldn't annihilate Iran. There is no such thing as 'betrayal' in international relations. The Ottomans were never our friends, and we acted according to our national interests.

Then may Allah bless Arabs for bringing light to Persian soil.

Darkness is the right word, not light. You should know, since the Arabs pretty much took you Turks out of Central-Asia to function as quasi boy-slaves in their empires.

 

[atatwolf]

Yes, it is. It is how scientific progress is being measured, and google is your friend if you want to read about achievements accomplished in Iran. It isn't strange that Iran always scores better on international scientific competitions than Turkey.



Should I post pictures of your people cleaning toilets in Europe again?

The only compitition you can win is toilet cleaning compitition because Iranian industry isn't developed in any sector. Iran only has oil. Without that you would be on the same level as Sudan. Turkey got where they are without oil. That is something g to be proud of. Also we stayed and fought. Not flee like you.They didn't fled their home as refugee in the Netherlands. You told me your parents fled as refugee to Pakistan and the whole middle east to clean toilets ... LoL

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Darkness is the right word, not light. You should know, since the Arabs pretty much took you Turks out of Central-Asia to function as quasi boy-slaves in their empires.

I dont have any complex, mate. I laugh here writing on PDF and watching TV. But you are definitely crazy.

 

[Syed Hussain]

I dont see anything Persian around. Neither in Turkey nor in Iran. Arabic culture prevailed. Sorry to disappoint you.
You base your argument that Sassanids defeated numerically superior Turkish forces on Firdowsi's Shahnama? If so, Thats a story book. Not a historical document.
Good luck to you in your scientific achievements.

First of all, Lets not be racial.
Iran's scientific development is different than that of Turkish...Turkey is the only Muslim country to have full access to Western technology & Iran has zero access from last 30 years...So Turkish development in science is because of the Western collaboration & technology transfer while Iran is self working, though using old western technology as it's base...!
According to Scopus, Iran ranked 17th in terms of science production in the world in 2012 with the production of 34,155 articles above Switzerland and Turkey.
According to the Institute for Scientific Information (ISI), Iran increased its acadamic publishing output nearly tenfold from 1996 to 2004, and has been ranked first globally in terms of output growth rate (followed by China with a 3 fold increase).
A 2010 report by Canadian research firm Science-Metrix has put Iran in the top rank globally in terms of growth in scientific productivity with a 14.4 growth index followed by South Korea with a 9.8 growth index. Iran's growth rate in science and technology is 11 times more than the average growth of the world's output in 2009 and in terms of total output per year, Iran has already surpassed the total scientific output of countries like Sweden, Switzerland, Israel, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Austria or that of Norway. Iran with a science and technology yearly growth rate of 25% is doubling its total output every three years and at this rate will reach the level of Canadian annual output in 2017.
As per US government report on science and engineering titled "Science & Engineering Indicators 2010" prepared by National Science Foundation, Iran has the world's highest growth rate in Science & Engineering article output with an annual growth rate of 25.7%. & the list will just keep going on & on...& the biggest cause for this was the international isolation that Iran suffered from past 30 years which driven it to realize the idiom of "necessity is the mother of invention."

 

[Surenas]

The only compitition you can win is toilet cleaning compitition because Iranian industry isn't developed in any sector. Iran only has oil. Without that you would be on the same level as Sudan. Turkey got where they are without oil. That is something g to be proud of. Also we stayed and fought. Not flee like you.They didn't fled their home as refugee in the Netherlands. You told me your parents fled as refugee to Pakistan and the whole middle east to clean toilets ... LoL

We never cleaned toilets here. We didn't came to Europe as 'guest workers' unlike your grandparents did. We are the highest educated immigrant group in pretty much every European country, and are being praised for integrating in these societies, in contrast to you TUrks.

No industry? Are you an idiot. Iran consumes more steel than France or the UK, and scores higher on various industrial outputs than Turkey:

List of countries by future Industrial Output - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here, comparing Iran with Turkey:

World's largest mining companies:

Iran on the 23st place, while Turkey is not even in the list. Indonesia is one rank above Iran though, on the 22st place.

Figures are from the World Bank. Here a link: http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTOGMC/Resources/336099-1236292308783/humphreys_Emerging_players_(97v).pdf

Automobile production:

Non-energy use of bitumen asphalt

Non-energy use of lubricants

Lubricants consumption for non-energy uses statistics - countries compared - Nationmaster

Steel production by country:

Copper production:

Aluminium production:

Cement production:

Iron production:

You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Belew_Kelew]

The Ottomans never couldn't annihilate Iran. There is no such thing as 'betrayal' in international relations. The Ottomans were never our friends, and we acted according to our national interests.



Darkness is the right word, not light. You should know, since the Arabs pretty much took you Turks out of Central-Asia to function as quasi boy-slaves in their empires.

Pretty much from 940 A.D the turks ruled Iran for almost 600 Years, i wouldn't go around calling someone quasi boy - slaves who ruled them for 600 years as one of their provinces.

 

[Surenas]

Pretty much from 940 A.D the turks ruled Iran for almost 600 Years, i wouldn't go around calling someone quasi boy - slaves who ruled them for 600 years as one of their provinces.

They never defeated any Iranian force; they took over the country because there was no functioning Iranian army anymore. They did not rule it as a province, but had their main capitals of their empire on Iranian soil and resurrected Persian culture.

They took great pride in Iran's culture and ancient achievements. That is why they took over Iranian names, promoted Iranian poets, etc.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

First of all, Lets not be racial.
Iran's scientific development is different than that of Turkish...Turkey is the only Muslim country to have full access to Western technology & Iran has zero access from last 30 years...So Turkish development in science is because of the Western collaboration & technology transfer while Iran is self working, though using old western technology as it's base...!
According to Scopus, Iran ranked 17th in terms of science production in the world in 2012 with the production of 34,155 articles above Switzerland and Turkey.
According to the Institute for Scientific Information (ISI), Iran increased its acadamic publishing output nearly tenfold from 1996 to 2004, and has been ranked first globally in terms of output growth rate (followed by China with a 3 fold increase).
A 2010 report by Canadian research firm Science-Metrix has put Iran in the top rank globally in terms of growth in scientific productivity with a 14.4 growth index followed by South Korea with a 9.8 growth index. Iran's growth rate in science and technology is 11 times more than the average growth of the world's output in 2009 and in terms of total output per year, Iran has already surpassed the total scientific output of countries like Sweden, Switzerland, Israel, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Austria or that of Norway. Iran with a science and technology yearly growth rate of 25% is doubling its total output every three years and at this rate will reach the level of Canadian annual output in 2017.
As per US government report on science and engineering titled "Science & Engineering Indicators 2010" prepared by National Science Foundation, Iran has the world's highest growth rate in Science & Engineering article output with an annual growth rate of 25.7%. & the list will just keep going on & on...& the biggest cause for this was the international isolation that Iran suffered from past 30 years which driven it to realize the idiom of "necessity is the mother of invention."

It is late night here, tired for a discussion about economics. Copy paste is time consuming.

I am not racist here, mate. As long as these Persians and Kurds dont throw their problems on Turks, it is fine with me.

 

[SALMAN F]

There has never been a Kazakhstan, just like there has never been a Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, etc. The Turks, who crawled from their primitive tents in Central-Asia to find some wealth their 'neighboring' countries did possess, are not entitled to claim these lands.

like there has never been country called Kurdistan is just mountain monkey dream people who live in caves and mudd houses and ride mules and donkyes

 

[Belew_Kelew]

They never defeated any Iranian force; they took over the country because there was no functioning Iranian army anymore. They did not rule it as a province, but had their main capitals of their empire on Iranian soil and resurrected Persian culture.

They took great pride in Iran's culture and ancient achievements. That is why they took over Iranian names, promoted Iranian poets, etc.

well Iranian force or not but it took Iran 600 years to be freed by another turkic tribe (Azeri) and ruled for a further what 400 years? so 1000 years and no iranian forces yet? Their capital was baghdad then damascus and last i checked neither city is iranian. Remember we are talking about soldiers in the Ummayd empire who ruled over the islamic world for almost 1000 years.

They adopted as much as they gave iranians, infact i think the arab language and culture has influenced turks more than persian.

 

[Surenas]

like there has never been country called Kurdistan is just mountain monkey dream people who live in caves and mudd houses and ride mules and donkyes

Kurds on a Northwestern Iranian people and have number of times ruled significant parts in the Middle East. Like the Medes, Buyids, Zand dynasty, etc. Kurds do not live in caves, and Erbil is better developed than any non-oil Arab city, you Arab lizard eater.

well Iranian force or not but it took Iran 600 years to be freed by another turkic tribe (Azeri) and ruled for a further what 400 years? so 1000 years and no iranian forces yet? Their capital was baghdad then damascus and last i checked neither city is iranian. Remember we are talking about soldiers in the Ummayd empire who ruled over the islamic world for almost 1000 years.

It wasn't being 'freed'. The invading Turks were no occupiers, but integrated themselves (in contrast to classical colonialists like the Britons in India, or Europeans in Africa) in Iranian society, promoted the indigenous culture and protected Iranian interests, even against their fellow Turkic people. They became part of Iran over time.

Baghdad was built by Iranians, actually. Also, I meant the Seljuqs, the first Turkish-ruled empire over Iran, who had all their capitals on Iranian soil (Nishapur, Rey, Isfahan, Hamadan and Merv).

They adopted as much as they gave iranians, infact i think the arab language and culture has influenced turks more than persian.

The didn't give much, but adopted much.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

These are Bashkir nationalists, historically oldest clan, remaining still today, in and around Kazakhstan. Grey wolf salute, and a strange flag that i see first time.

 

[INDIC]

Didn't the turks invaded india for like few hundred years and that was 500 years ago? where do you think they came from? Iran or the Moon?lol

First Turks invaded in 10-11th century and they looked identical to Mongols.